Refugee crisis

[tommy_t]

I found this, all is true, and why we should not have the open door policy, IMO we as a country have already done more than the likes of Germany have, they are a bigger and less densely populated country than the uk , the uk has give far too much in aid ,more than it can afford imo

Where are the same bleeding hearts when it comes to some of the below situations that many of our people are having to endure?

Letter to David Cameron.

DEAR DAVID CAMERON,
WHILST WE THE “BRITISH” PEOPLE FIND YOUR PLEDGE TO TAKE IN “THOUSANDS” OF SYRIAN REFUGEES ! ASTONISHING !
WE THE “BRITISH” PEOPLE WOULD LIKE YOU TO SIMPLY ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT “YOUR” POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED AGAINST “US” THE “BRITISH” PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF “AUSTERITY” ?

1, COULD YOU DAVID EXPLAIN WHY “YOUR” GOVERNMENT ARE CONTEMPLATING ASKING OUR “ELDERLY” TO SIGN “DO NOT RESUSCITATE” FORMS WHEN ATTENDING HOSPITAL AS THEY ARE DEEMED A “STRAIN” UPON THE NHS ■■?

2,WILL THESE “THOUSANDS” OF REFUGEES YOUR FREELY SHIPPING IN TO “OUR” COUNTRY HAVE ACCESS TO THE ALREADY OVERSTRETCHED NHS THAT CAN NO LONGER SUSTAIN THE “ELDERLY” BRITISH PEOPLE THAT HAVE PAID INTO THE NHS ALL THEIR LIVES ?

3,WHERE WILL WE “HOUSE” THESE “THOUSANDS” OF REFUGEES “YOU” ARE ALLOWING TO FREELY ENTER OUR COUNTRY ■■?

4,DO YOU DAVID HAVE ANY PLANS TO FIND “HOMES” FOR THE 63,000 “FAMILIES” OVER 94,000 CHILDREN ALREADY LIVING IN “EMERGENCY” ACCOMMODATION IN “ENGLAND” ?
AND WILL THESE PEOPLE BE ALLOCATED “HOMES” BEFORE THE “REFUGEES” ARRIVE ?

5, WILL THESE “REFUGEES” BE IN RECEIPT OF ANY “BENEFITS” DURING THEIR STAY HERE IN BRITAIN ?

6,THOUSANDS OF THE MOST VULNERABLE “BRITISH” PEOPLE HAVE “COMMITTED SUICIDE” DUE TO HAVING “BENEFITS” STRIPPED FROM THEM DAVID DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO “YOUR” POLICIES ?

WILL YOU BE PAYING A “PERSONAL” VISIT TO THE FAMILIES OF THESE DESPERATE PEOPLE TO EXPLAIN “WHY” WE THE “BRITISH” CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY “BENEFITS” TO DESPERATE “BRITISH” PEOPLE !

“BUT” SEEM TO HAVE A “BOTTOMLESS PIT” WHEN IT COMES TO “GIVING AWAY” “BRITISH” TAXPAYERS HARD EARNED MONEY TO NON BRITISH PEOPLE ?

7, WILL YOU DAVID BE PAYING A VISIT TO “FOOD BANKS” THAT A “MILLION” BRITISH FAMILIES ARE DEPENDANT UPON DUE TO YOUR “SANCTIONING” OF BENEFITS POLICY
TO EXPLAIN TO THE DESPERATE “BRITISH” PEOPLE FORCED TO USE THESE PLACES
AS YOUR GOVERNMENT SAY THEY DO NOT QUALIFY FOR BENEFITS BECAUSE THEY WERE FIVE MINS LATE FOR AN APPOINTMENT ■■?
AND EXPLAIN “WHY” THESE REFUGEES WILL BE “ENTITLED” TO BENEFITS DESPITE "NEVER CONTRIBUTING INTO THE SYSTEM ?

8, WILL YOU DAVID BE PAYING A VISIT TO SEE THE “THOUSANDS” OF “EX MILITARY” LIVING ON THE STREETS OF BRITAIN DUE TO THE GOVERNMENT CUTS
AND THEIR NOT BEING ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR COUNCIL HOUSING
AND EXPLAIN TO THEM “WHY” WE SEEM TO HAVE NO PROBLEM “HOUSING/FEEDING/KEEPING” SYRIAN REFUGEES ■■?

9, IF ANY OF THESE “REFUGEES” ARE OF PENSIONABLE AGE WILL THEY BE ENTITLED TO ANY “BENEFITS” EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE NEVER CONTRIBUTED INTO THE SYSTEM AND NEVER WILL ■■?

10, WILL YOU BE AT ANY TIME VISITING BUILDING SITES TO EXPLAIN “YOUR” DECISION TO THE “BRICKLAYER’S/PLASTERERS/GROUNDWORKERS/ PAVIOURS/ CONCRETERS/ STEEL ERECTORS/ ROOFERS AND LABOURERS”
HOW YOU EXPECT THEM TO WORK UNTIL THEY ARE 70 “SEVENTY” BEFORE THEY QUALIFY FOR FULL PENSION AS THE COUNTRY “SIMPLY” CAN’T AFFORD TO PAY THEM A PENSION BEFORE THEN ?
EVEN THOUGH THESE HARD WORKING MEN HAVE PAID IN ALL THEIR LIVES ■■?
AT WHAT AGE WILL “YOU” BE ENTITLED TO “YOUR” PENSION MR CAMERON ■■?

11, HOW MANY SYRIAN “REFUGEES” EXACTLY WILL BE ARRIVING IN “WHITNEY” YOUR CONSTITUENCY ■■?
AND HAVE YOU ASKED THE LOCALS IF IT’S OK ■■?

I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR ANSWERS !

YOURS
WILLIAM CHARLTON
(ENGLISHMAN)

[carryfast]

dani1972:
A Qualified Yes. I have no problem in taking people in from the refugee camps in the countries surrounding Syria.

Explain why you think that it’s better to bring an alienated population to an overpopulated European country that is already struggling to provide for it’s own.As opposed to turning our backs and telling the rich Gulf Arab states to look after their own and NATO helping the Kurds to create a Kurdish homeland on the basis of stability and having friends on Europe’s Asian border.

That’s assuming they are actually even ‘refugee’ camps and not just part of a plot for the invasion of Europe by the Islamic world.

[carryfast]

tommy t:
I found this, all is true, and why we should not have the open door policy, IMO we as a country have already done more than the likes of Germany have, they are a bigger and less densely populated country than the uk , the uk has give far too much in aid ,more than it can afford imo

Where are the same bleeding hearts when it comes to some of the below situations that many of our people are having to endure?

Letter to David Cameron.
YOURS
WILLIAM CHARLTON
(ENGLISHMAN)

That seems to confirm the difference between a nationalist and a socialist and the Con that is the so called Conservative Party.

[harry_monk]

This map seems to sum up the present situation fairly well.

[dani1972]

Carryfast:

dani1972:
A Qualified Yes. I have no problem in taking people in from the refugee camps in the countries surrounding Syria.

Explain why you think that it’s better to bring an alienated population to an overpopulated European country that is already struggling to provide for it’s own.As opposed to turning our backs and telling the rich Gulf Arab states to look after their own and NATO helping the Kurds to create a Kurdish homeland on the basis of stability and having friends on Europe’s Asian border.

That’s assuming they are actually even ‘refugee’ camps and not just part of a plot for the invasion of Europe by the Islamic world. [/
quote]
I don’t think we should take all the refugees instead of the gulf states, only as well as them. They aren’t all oil rich and Lebanon has taken over 1 million from Syria out of a pop of 4.8m. And they are hardly rich. I just think we should take a share of refugees genuinely fleeing from conflict, not economic migrants. In the long term however a Kurdish homeland has to be good thing though.

[tommy_t]

Harry Monk:
This map seems to sum up the present situation fairly well.

That is the reality of it all in pictures, non have any claim to asylum here , as they have fled their persecutor’s and are already in safe countries, just because those countries aren’t up to their high expectations and offer no handouts means sweet f.a to me & that makes them economic migrants NOT refugees, Those who break in to trucks and stow their selves away in order to enter this country or any other, are criminals , they destroy all id once they reach their chosen land usually uk,

So do they also have something to hide for our authorities, are they low life scum from another land wanted by the police for serious crimes? does the UKBA even give a sh*t? i doubt that they really do, All they are bothered about is doing their utmost to fine the driver and company especially if they are of British origin , as we are a cash cow for UKBA
What has our P.M got to say about that ?

[carryfast]

dani1972:

Carryfast:
Explain why you think that it’s better to bring an alienated population to an overpopulated European country that is already struggling to provide for it’s own.As opposed to turning our backs and telling the rich Gulf Arab states to look after their own and NATO helping the Kurds to create a Kurdish homeland on the basis of stability and having friends on Europe’s Asian border.

That’s assuming they are actually even ‘refugee’ camps and not just part of a plot for the invasion of Europe by the Islamic world. [/
quote]
I don’t think we should take all the refugees instead of the gulf states, only as well as them. They aren’t all oil rich and Lebanon has taken over 1 million from Syria out of a pop of 4.8m. And they are hardly rich. I just think we should take a share of refugees genuinely fleeing from conflict, not economic migrants. In the long term however a Kurdish homeland has to be good thing though.

Firstly the ‘war’ in question is of their own making in being a backward, warlike,violent culture and there’s no way that we can add those types of numbers to our population every time the Middle East kicks off yet again.Let alone when those numbers are made up of that alien culture and are quite likely to bring that inherent trait with them.In this case they are supposedly fleeing from a localised fight in Syria.In which case why go to all the aggro of travelling from Asia to a totally alien to them Northern Europe when they’ve got the far more suitable and richer than us Arab Gulf States like Saudi and Kuwait just across their Southern borders.On that note no there is no reason whatsoever why should take any of them and every reason why we shouldn’t.

As for the Kurds,like the Israelis,the clue is the young people of fighting age amongst the Kurds obviously want to stand their ground and fight for a good cause that is also in our interests.Unlike the alien,quite possibly ultimately hostile,rabble heading our way.

[carryfast]

tommy t:

Harry Monk:
This map seems to sum up the present situation fairly well.

That is the reality of it all in pictures, non have any claim to asylum here , as they have fled their persecutor’s and are already in safe countries, just because those countries aren’t up to their high expectations and offer no handouts means sweet f.a to me & that makes them economic migrants NOT refugees

There seem to be a number of other agendas going on in which we are being treated like mugs.

Firstly the map is an understatement because it misses the rich Gulf States to the south like Kuwait and Saudi.Which refuse to be signatories to any so called ‘refugee’/asylum agreements even to help their own so called Arab ‘brothers’.

Meanwhile Eastern Europe rightly doesn’t want them in their countries and are prepared and happy to be called ‘racists’ to do it.

While US foreign policy is all about keeping Eastern Europe happy at our expense.While also being too stupid to realise the risk and flaws in that policy of invasion of Northern Europe by hostile Asian factions.Especially if Saudi etc are playing the west for fools in that regard.

[truckyboy]

I said NO for a number of reasons. When i was a child a friend knocked on my door and asked me to look at something outside, so off we went creeping around the bend in my street to notice a Black man sweeping the streets, this was my first sight of a foreigner in my country, and as a child i was a little scared, as i had previously watched films of Savages who were black and were terrorising white people. So mnove on a few years, after the carribean community arrived and rescued our transport system, the Fillipinos saved our national health service, and the Sikhs visited door to door with their goods being sold from a suitcase. As time went by more immigrants arrived, mainly Indians, as as further time went by, more arrived who were more Muslim than the previous lot, or indeed awoken the first with a reminder of their religion, and so demanded more and more from this country, like Mosques, and their own Sharia Law etc etc, and so new communities were born, as we know some of them demanded their own areas where only Muslims were allowed to tread, some of them were desecrating our war graves, some were insulting our troops when marching to celebrating their homecoming from war zones, and some were willing to join the Jihad and threatened to kill non believers. As we now know, ISIS/ISIL were causing problems, as did Alkieda ( sorry for spelling ) around the world, and we discovered we had home grown terrorists on our soil, willing to carry out atrocities amongst us and around the world, but certainly within Europe, and a few of them were willing to travel to Syria to fight for their cause, but they were in fact British a title we had given them, we allowed them to be british, we rescued them from poverty, gave them houses, healthcare, and benefits, and yet they were bent on hell willing to turn against us for their cause, ion fact they were/are trying to change the very home we gave them, and at great cost to us. Now we live in fear, we hear them say they will not stop until they have taken over, and the Muslim flag will fly over downing street.

Move on to today…we have thousands of refugees fleeing Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and other war zones, god knows who is amongst them, are ISIS paying for their travel, to infiltrate europe, for they have said so themself, but our beloved government has now announced that 20,000 immigrants will travel from the war zone in Syria to join us in the uk…is he mad or what ? i know some are genuine, there are children being displaced, some have died on their travels, but we are only taking from refugee camps and none from europe, whom we have seen on tv recently in Hungary, and i am fed up with people travelling here, to milk our system, most cannot speak our language, so will need teachers, they will need schools, healthcare, benefits, housing, for maybe they too will join their brothers and sisters here, who refuse to integrate, refuse to speak our language, yet take happily our money, they will also need work ( well some of them at least ) and seeing as we have accommodated most of the eastern bloc, where are the jobs coming from, where is the housing coming from, and last but not least, we have brave soldiers who have fought in war zones for this country, putting their lives on the line for us, yet they are reduced to begging in the streets for a pittance so they can eat, some have nowhere to live, no benefits, yet are being neglected, where is the help for our heroes.

[dani1972]

Carryfast:

dani1972:

Carryfast:
Explain why you think that it’s better to bring an alienated population to an overpopulated European country that is already struggling to provide for it’s own.As opposed to turning our backs and telling the rich Gulf Arab states to look after their own and NATO helping the Kurds to create a Kurdish homeland on the basis of stability and having friends on Europe’s Asian border.

That’s assuming they are actually even ‘refugee’ camps and not just part of a plot for the invasion of Europe by the Islamic world. [/
quote]
I don’t think we should take all the refugees instead of the gulf states, only as well as them. They aren’t all oil rich and Lebanon has taken over 1 million from Syria out of a pop of 4.8m. And they are hardly rich. I just think we should take a share of refugees genuinely fleeing from conflict, not economic migrants. In the long term however a Kurdish homeland has to be good thing though.

Firstly the ‘war’ in question is of their own making in being a backward, warlike,violent culture and there’s no way that we can add those types of numbers to our population every time the Middle East kicks off yet again.Let alone when those numbers are made up of that alien culture and are quite likely to bring that inherent trait with them.In this case they are supposedly fleeing from a localised fight in Syria.In which case why go to all the aggro of travelling from Asia to a totally alien to them Northern Europe when they’ve got the far more suitable and richer than us Arab Gulf States like Saudi and Kuwait just across their Southern borders.On that note no there is no reason whatsoever why should take any of them and every reason why we shouldn’t.

As for the Kurds,like the Israelis,the clue is the young people of fighting age amongst the Kurds obviously want to stand their ground and fight for a good cause that is also in our interests.Unlike the alien,quite possibly ultimately hostile,rabble heading our way.

While the civil war was probably started by Syrians (though a lot of people say the West had something to do with it I don’t know about that) not all of them wanted it, so to say to those who didn’t want war, “You’re fellow countryman started it so tough” is incredibly harsh, and while of course the links of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait should take tier fair share and the fact they haven’t is a disgrace does not change the fact they are there and need help, so yes I do believe we should help and to be honest it’s just the right thing to do. If others don’t pull their weight while we can pressure them to an extent it’s ultimately out of our hands.

[janos]

Lets all give a big welcome to our future executioners.

[carryfast]

dani1972:

Carryfast:
Firstly the ‘war’ in question is of their own making in being a backward, warlike,violent culture and there’s no way that we can add those types of numbers to our population every time the Middle East kicks off yet again.Let alone when those numbers are made up of that alien culture and are quite likely to bring that inherent trait with them.In this case they are supposedly fleeing from a localised fight in Syria.In which case why go to all the aggro of travelling from Asia to a totally alien to them Northern Europe when they’ve got the far more suitable and richer than us Arab Gulf States like Saudi and Kuwait just across their Southern borders.On that note no there is no reason whatsoever why should take any of them and every reason why we shouldn’t.

As for the Kurds,like the Israelis,the clue is the young people of fighting age amongst the Kurds obviously want to stand their ground and fight for a good cause that is also in our interests.Unlike the alien,quite possibly ultimately hostile,rabble heading our way.

While the civil war was probably started by Syrians (though a lot of people say the West had something to do with it I don’t know about that) not all of them wanted it, so to say to those who didn’t want war, “You’re fellow countryman started it so tough” is incredibly harsh, and while of course the links of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait should take tier fair share and the fact they haven’t is a disgrace does not change the fact they are there and need help, so yes I do believe we should help and to be honest it’s just the right thing to do. If others don’t pull their weight while we can pressure them to an extent it’s ultimately out of our hands.

Do you really want to risk the security of your own on the basis of trusting that it’s not an invasion with the intention of massive Arab militant terrorist sleeper forces causing havoc here with the support of the Saudis and their socialist Euroland stooge Merkel.Let alone trusting that a total zbwit like Cameron has the slightest clue as to what he is doing in that regard.Although maybe it’s a pointless question being that you’re also probably a Socialist just like zb Merkel.

On that note if Saudi won’t take them the big question is why.As for us as I said it isn’t our problem we don’t have the space or resources to look after our own let alone a bunch of quite possibly hostile Arabs in addition to a load of other economic free loaders taking advantage of our open borders.When those so called ‘refugees’ can be told either Saudi takes them or tough.

[carryfast]

Janos:
Lets all give a big welcome to our future executioners.

Absolutely.Loads of casualties taken in Afghan for what.

[tommy_t]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8xkYZNsKUYMuslim’s on the Macedonia border refuse ‘Red Cross’ food parcels because the red cross symbolises Christianity.
Amazing don’t you think that they’ll accept a Christian Countries, social housing, Benefits and Health care though.

[moomooland]

moomooland:
No enough is enough!

Sign here > petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477

Just passed 100.000 signatures!

[carryfast]

moomooland:

moomooland:
No enough is enough!

Sign here > petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477

Just passed 100.000 signatures!

How will that produce a ‘debate’ when their is no anti immigration side among the MP’s.

[freight_dog]

tommy t:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8xkYZNsKUYMuslim’s on the Macedonia border refuse ‘Red Cross’ food parcels because the red cross symbolises Christianity.
Amazing don’t you think that they’ll accept a Christian Countries, social housing, Benefits and Health care though.

I’m suprised more hasn’t been said about this video. I’ve seen a clip with a supposed translation and it mentions jeers of “not halal” etc. They do all jeer and clap when the boxes are taken away. Having experienced this clown behaviour personally I’d say this was real. In which case ship the buggers back and bid em good luck. We really are having the wool pulled firmly over our eyes, or are we?

I chatted today to some German colleagues who say in Germany it’s well understood there is an employment agenda by Merkel for letting this lot in. They were suprised we believed its just down to goodwill. They have an aging populous and in need of young workers. He may have cried wolf before but minus the theatrics I’m actually with CF on what he says about this. There is far more to this than so called good deeds by the government. As for the sympathy videos placed in the press to stir up the masses? Wheat thrown for the idiots who believe the world is Janet and John. If an idiot like Bob Geldoff can have people believing Africa can be fixed by playing guitars and throwing money at the problem then we’ve proven the country looks at the world through filmic, make believe eyes.

It’s well known understood that press articles have been fabricated, pressed into play or paused by the security services in the past. As counter intuitive as it maybe to the layman, I don’t doubt they have a hand in this side to encourage national support.

[the_maoster]

Any debates/discussions/arguments we have here matter not one iota when you have a parliament tying itself in knots agonising over the legalities of conducting a drone strike on two “British citizens”! Two “British citizens” incidentally wearing enemy uniforms and bearing arms against the country that housed and fed them. I give up, honestly I do.

What must the scarred, disfigured and damaged troops we sent to these war zones think when they see this sort of crap as they beg the same government for any meagre handouts they see fit to bestow these poor, brave boys and girls?

[freight_dog]

the maoster:
Any debates/discussions/arguments we have here matter not one iota when you have a parliament tying itself in knots agonising over the legalities of conducting a drone strike on two “British citizens”! Two “British citizens” incidentally wearing enemy uniforms and bearing arms against the country that housed and fed them. I give up, honestly I do.

What must the scarred, disfigured and damaged troops we sent to these war zones think when they see this sort of crap as they beg the same government for any meagre handouts they see fit to bestow these poor, brave boys and girls?

How do you know they’re tying themselves in knots? It’s just what we read. What we are fed when it comes to stuff of national interest is carefully vetted and sculpted. The show of being in knots will be just that.

[the_maoster]

The very fact that it’s even under discussion proves that the professional hand wringers are sticking their oar in. How refreshing would it be for Cameron to say “I’m the Prime Minister, these people are enemies of Britain and as such I authorised and will continue to authorise their killings”? Now THAT I could happily live with.

Although I will say that going along with the conspiracy theorists, for the Gov to say that they had threatened to stage attacks in Britain is simply brilliant. I mean that yes, sat around their camp fire they’d probably fantasised about a “spectacular” in Britain, but the fact that they have been targeted for the queen and Britain threat now sows the seed of doubt in the heads of IS that we (the British) have spies in their midst. Brilliant counter intelligence in my book.