bigstraight6:
Progress means something is better than the thing it replaces.
I think manual pushrod V8 Range Rover or Discovery prices speak for themselves in that regard.Although I’m thinking of attempting a 4.0 Jeep Grand Cherokee manual conversion my guess is that the result will be worth more than the cost of the job. 
As for Mercs let me know if you see a W210 E320 estate with a straight 6 M104 and a manual box in it for sale going cheap. 
adam277:
My biggest concern is how long electric batteries last as well.
Because as a batteries performance will degrade over time.So even if a battery may last say 8 years it is likely that the range of that battery will decrease dramatically in those 8 years.
This is the case if you drive 100,000 miles or 10,000 miles.Also alot of these car batteries are built into the chasis. Making removing them such a tedious process and extremely expensive. I also hate the idea of ‘battery-leasing’.
There will be affordable EV cars though. The Wuling Hongguang Mini EV only costs $3,200 in China and it looks like a fantastic idea.
It may only have a 100 mile range but for most people that is more than enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ytqr8T05OU
youtube.com/watch?v=6Ytqr8T05OUI’d def be intereted in getting one.
Yep you drive the cheap Chinese micro car death trap so the boss can afford two Teslas one charging while he’s using the other.
While contributing to the Chinese military budget if you’ve got a job.
Let’s throw away a cheap practical energy source at around 50 kwh per gallon to be dependent on expensive battery suppliers and electricity at 16p per kwh + road fuel duty + 20% VAT.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Was thinking about earlier Carryfast, was telling Dad about you medically retiring by 40, which be both found a strange concept. Anyway it got me thinking. Do you never wonder what you could have been capable of and achieved had you set your clearly overactive mind and endless free time to something useful? It’s never too late.Did you actually show him the medical report which took me out of the job.Bearing in mind that quack had obviously seen all the scans of the damage you haven’t.
You know some people actually load lorries for a living right? How on earth do they manage such back breaking work…
You know the state I was in last year right? This time last year I don’t remember as I was in a coma but upon waking from that weeks later, while unable to walk or even adjust myself in bed, not knowing if I’d ever walk again, the prospect of retiring didn’t enter my mind. I was working out what would be possible if I didn’t walk again, not ever thinking for a second that my working days were behind me. I suffer pain daily, esp when damp, struggle to get up if sat for too long, had to stop kneeling on floor to look in cupboards as I can’t get up and can no longer reach behind me without crippling pain. But hopefully back working soon. None of that is remarkable, people do this all the time.
Dad put his body through hell for 20+ years as mechanic, probably broken most bones in his body at one point or another including his neck and is riddled with arthritis, 66 this year and just went from 4 on 4 off at work to 6 on 2 off. Again not remarkable
That’s why I think your story a bit unusual.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Christ it’s like hitting my head on a brick wall with you. What’s a van got to do with Volvo and Polestar?Which part of 2,000 hp + and the capacity to carry the batteries that it will need to actually go anywhere didn’t you understand.
Christ it’s like hitting my head on a brick wall with you. What’s a van got to do with Volvo and Polestar?
switchlogic:
You know some people actually load lorries for a living right? How on earth do they manage such back breaking work…You know the state I was in last year right? This time last year I don’t remember as I was in a coma but upon waking from that weeks later, while unable to walk or even adjust myself in bed, not knowing if I’d ever walk again, the prospect of retiring didn’t enter my mind. I was working out what would be possible if I didn’t walk again, not ever thinking for a second that my working days were behind me. I suffer pain daily, esp when damp, struggle to get up if sat for too long, had to stop kneeling on floor to look in cupboards as I can’t get up and can no longer reach behind me without crippling pain. But hopefully back working soon. None of that is remarkable, people do this all the time.
Dad put his body through hell for 20+ years as mechanic, probably broken most bones in his body at one point or another including his neck and is riddled with arthritis, 66 this year and just went from 4 on 4 off at work to 6 on 2 off. Again not remarkable
That’s why I think your story a bit unusual.
I would reply to all that zb but would justifiably be busted for off topic crap. 
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Christ it’s like hitting my head on a brick wall with you. What’s a van got to do with Volvo and Polestar?Which part of 2,000 hp + and the capacity to carry the batteries that it will need to actually go anywhere didn’t you understand.
Christ it’s like hitting my head on a brick wall with you. What’s a van got to do with Volvo and Polestar?
Because a bleedin 3.5t van, or preferably a 7.5 tonner, obviously makes a far better super EV than a silly small Chinese coupe based on now obsolete ICE engine chassis technology.You know as in loads of heavy batteries needed to fuel it at 200 kgs per 50 kwh as opposed to petrol at 50 kwh per gallon.
Carryfast:
bigstraight6:
Progress means something is better than the thing it replaces.I think manual pushrod V8 Range Rover or Discovery prices speak for themselves in that regard.Although I’m thinking of attempting a 4.0 Jeep Grand Cherokee manual conversion my guess is that the result will be worth more than the cost of the job.
As for Mercs let me know if you see a W210 E320 estate with a straight 6 M104 and a manual box in it for sale going cheap.
The prices speak for themselves…at over a quarter of a million quid this must be a fast and desirable motor then?
Speed? Range? Reliability?
carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1299735
Franglais:
Carryfast:
bigstraight6:
Progress means something is better than the thing it replaces.I think manual pushrod V8 Range Rover or Discovery prices speak for themselves in that regard.Although I’m thinking of attempting a 4.0 Jeep Grand Cherokee manual conversion my guess is that the result will be worth more than the cost of the job.
As for Mercs let me know if you see a W210 E320 estate with a straight 6 M104 and a manual box in it for sale going cheap.
The prices speak for themselves…at over a quarter of a million quid this must be a fast and desirable motor then?
Speed? Range? Reliability?
carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1299735
I do rather like the sound of a ‘20HP Rear Entrance’. My sort of car it seems
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Christ it’s like hitting my head on a brick wall with you. What’s a van got to do with Volvo and Polestar?Which part of 2,000 hp + and the capacity to carry the batteries that it will need to actually go anywhere didn’t you understand.
Christ it’s like hitting my head on a brick wall with you. What’s a van got to do with Volvo and Polestar?
Because a bleedin 3.5t van, or preferably a 7.5 tonner, obviously makes a far better super EV than a silly small Chinese coupe based on now obsolete ICE engine chassis technology.You know as in loads of heavy batteries needed to fuel it at 200 kgs per 50 kwh as opposed to petrol at 50 kwh per gallon.
In your head…
I posted a picture of the Precept. I know you’re not a fan of educating yourself but still…
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
You know some people actually load lorries for a living right? How on earth do they manage such back breaking work…You know the state I was in last year right? This time last year I don’t remember as I was in a coma but upon waking from that weeks later, while unable to walk or even adjust myself in bed, not knowing if I’d ever walk again, the prospect of retiring didn’t enter my mind. I was working out what would be possible if I didn’t walk again, not ever thinking for a second that my working days were behind me. I suffer pain daily, esp when damp, struggle to get up if sat for too long, had to stop kneeling on floor to look in cupboards as I can’t get up and can no longer reach behind me without crippling pain. But hopefully back working soon. None of that is remarkable, people do this all the time.
Dad put his body through hell for 20+ years as mechanic, probably broken most bones in his body at one point or another including his neck and is riddled with arthritis, 66 this year and just went from 4 on 4 off at work to 6 on 2 off. Again not remarkable
That’s why I think your story a bit unusual.
I would reply to all that zb but would justifiably be busted for off topic crap.
FINALLY! Carryfast has no answer. Because come on that’s the weakest excuse you’ve ever used. You haves reputation for regularly besieging posts and sinking them with ‘off topic crap’. Better luck next time
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Christ it’s like hitting my head on a brick wall with you. What’s a van got to do with Volvo and Polestar?Because a bleedin 3.5t van, or preferably a 7.5 tonner, obviously makes a far better super EV than a silly small Chinese coupe based on now obsolete ICE engine chassis technology.You know as in loads of heavy batteries needed to fuel it at 200 kgs per 50 kwh as opposed to petrol at 50 kwh per gallon.
In your head
So you’re denying those figures ?.Why don’t you correct them if you think they are wrong.
switchlogic:
FINALLY! Carryfast has no answer. Because come on that’s the weakest excuse you’ve ever used. You haves reputation for regularly besieging posts and sinking them with ‘off topic crap’. Better luck next time
Re write that bs on the handballing stuff off a truck topic then you’ll get your answer.
Franglais:
The prices speak for themselves…at over a quarter of a million quid this must be a fast and desirable motor then?
Speed? Range? Reliability?
carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1299735
Strange choice of comparison.
Mercedes Simplex v Studebaker Electric.
Range Rover/Disco manual Rover V8 pushrod v automatic BMW V8.
Come back with some figures.
Here’s a clue.
bonhams.com/auctions/23425/lot/27/
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Christ it’s like hitting my head on a brick wall with you. What’s a van got to do with Volvo and Polestar?Because a bleedin 3.5t van, or preferably a 7.5 tonner, obviously makes a far better super EV than a silly small Chinese coupe based on now obsolete ICE engine chassis technology.You know as in loads of heavy batteries needed to fuel it at 200 kgs per 50 kwh as opposed to petrol at 50 kwh per gallon.
In your head
So you’re denying those figures ?.Why don’t you correct them if you think they are wrong.
Denying the figures of the vehicle you’ve made up in your head? You’re over estimating how much thought I gave them, life is way too short for that nonsense
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
FINALLY! Carryfast has no answer. Because come on that’s the weakest excuse you’ve ever used. You haves reputation for regularly besieging posts and sinking them with ‘off topic crap’. Better luck next timeRe write that bs on the handballing stuff off a truck topic then you’ll get your answer.
Over to you…
Peugeot want to go ‘Combustion-Free’ by 2023 now 
ICE vehicles are starting to fall off the cliff way before the 2030 deadline it seems. electrive.com/2021/03/12/pe … e-by-2023/
That’s some good news.
adam277:
That’s some good news.
Here here
lancpudn:
Peugeot want to go ‘Combustion-Free’ by 2023 now
Peugeot petrol/diesel engines and indeed their vehicles from the last decade have something of a reputation in the trade of being utter rubbish, maybe they will have more success with EV but I doubt it.
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
You know as in loads of heavy batteries needed to fuel it at 200 kgs per 50 kwh as opposed to petrol at 50 kwh per gallon.In your head
So you’re denying those figures ?.Why don’t you correct them if you think they are wrong.
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Denying the figures of the vehicle you’ve made up in your head? You’re over estimating how much thought I gave them, life is way too short for that nonsense
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You obviously didn’t give them any thought at all because they are an inconvenient truth.Why don’t you put up some figures of your own showing which figures that I’ve supposedly made up.