JLR making the Jaguar brand all electric

switchlogic:
Polestar for me
See if this time the giant open goal I’ve given a certain someone is used

I thought I’d already settled the most desirable EV question with the Merc 7.5 tonner or a Sprinter with 5,000/2000 hp motors and more than a tonne of batteries on their load decks to fuel em. :smiling_imp: :wink: :smiley:

As for the Polestar the whole idea falls apart when you realise that you’ll need to tow a trailer loaded with batteries behind it at autobahn type speeds.Obviously in your case also limited by the small motor unlike mine. :laughing:

Jaguar are toast either way. :unamused:

FFS he misses the wide open goal AGAIN. For someone who is usually addicted to Google this is weird. What’s your favourite subject? About how all powerful China is taking over, about the CCP. Who owns Volvo (Cars) and their performance brand Polestar…, :unamused:

For me.
I cant justify spending anymore than £10,000 on a new car.
Spends a years wages on a polestar is just nuts, especially if your known for ending up in a ditch.

For me. If I had to buy an actual car it would be the Renault Zoe.
You can pick a new one up for £20,000 although the used prices are much more reasonable.

Not worth having new flashy cars anymore. In my opinion anyway.

adam277:
For me.

  1. Spends a years wages on a polestar is just nuts,

  2. especially if your known for ending up in a ditch.

  1. Oh I own one? Where have I left it, I seem to have forgotten. You’ve never heard of the concept of having a dream car then? I didn’t say I was buying one. I don’t currently have a licence. Or even 2 pennies to rub together. You’re starting to rival Carry for stupid comments :smiley:

  2. You’re starting to rival Carryfast for tedious comments. And like him you missed a massive open goal by mentioning the ditch incident on a post about cars… :unamused: :laughing:

Some of us have a little more imagination than having a Renault Zoe as our dream car.

switchlogic:
FFS he misses the wide open goal AGAIN. For someone who is usually addicted to Google this is weird. What’s your favourite subject? About how all powerful China is taking over, about the CCP. Who owns Volvo (Cars) and their performance brand Polestar…, :unamused:

Blimey are the Chinese making Merc Sprinters and 7.5 tonners now. :smiling_imp: :laughing:
Those commy control freaks obviously won’t have my old school hot rodders mindset regardless so who gives a zb what they think they own.
Luckily I’m not going to see much of the brave new EV era but I’ve already invented just about the fastest super EV there will ever be it will make a Tesla look like a Vectra and a Polstar it’s a Volvo so call it a P1800. :smiling_imp:

Stopping it will be another matter but it’s got regenerative braking right a parachute can only be used once. :wink:

adam277:
For me.
I cant justify spending anymore than £10,000 on a new car.
Spends a years wages on a polestar is just nuts, especially if your known for ending up in a ditch.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

It doesn’t have to be expensive and flash to be fast.How much is a used 3.5t Sprinter van. :smiling_imp: :bulb:
youtube.com/watch?v=kclrRTgXfrY

Shame about the missing soundtrack though.I was never impressed by Scalextric. :frowning:

switchlogic:
Some of us have a little more imagination than having a Renault Zoe as our dream car.

Yep like putting a 2000 hp electric motor in a 3.5t Merc Sprinter van which will also have sufficient capacity for the batteries needed to run it.If Merc makes the thing before I do I’ll sue em for nicking my intellectual property rights.

As for Jaguar they don’t make vans or 7.5 tonners so they’re history. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Here’s a cute video about electricity and oil production.
.
Health Warning!
Certain people should ensure they take blood pressure pills before viewing it.

youtube.com/watch?v=mk-LnUYEXuM

I certainly haven’t checked out the figures, but may look at a few of them later as they seem eye opening. Interesting stuff though.

switchlogic:

adam277:
For me.

  1. Spends a years wages on a polestar is just nuts,

  2. especially if your known for ending up in a ditch.

  1. Oh I own one? Where have I left it, I seem to have forgotten. You’ve never heard of the concept of having a dream car then? I didn’t say I was buying one. I don’t currently have a licence. Or even 2 pennies to rub together. You’re starting to rival Carry for stupid comments :smiley:

  2. You’re starting to rival Carryfast for tedious comments. And like him you missed a massive open goal by mentioning the ditch incident on a post about cars… :unamused: :laughing:

Some of us have a little more imagination than having a Renault Zoe as our dream car.

What do you mean you dont have a licence :laughing:

It looks inevitable that all car manufacturers will have to go electric sooner rather than later! Is the writing on the wall for Big Oil within a decade :open_mouth: Morgan Stanley think so. Are we about to see an implosion of that business with €billions worth of stranded assets. :question: insideevs.com/news/491697/morga … worthless/

lancpudn:
It looks inevitable that all car manufacturers will have to go electric sooner rather than later! Is the writing on the wall for Big Oil within a decade :open_mouth: Morgan Stanley think so. Are we about to see an implosion of that business with €billions worth of stranded assets. :question: insideevs.com/news/491697/morga … worthless/

As stated by an EV parts supplier.Who would have thought it. :unamused:

worldoil.com/news/2021/1/19/ … n-licenses

worldoil.com/news/2020/9/14/ … d-offshore

proactiveinvestors.co.uk/com … 59261.html

energy.economictimes.indiatimes … l/65699582

reuters.com/article/us-globa … SKBN21H1M4

Who’s trying to fool who here.

I’m very uncomfortable with the direction of travel with The whole EV thing, with it being imposed with no choice in the matter and I don’t see it as progress, electric powered vehicles have been around for a very long time now and the age old issues with range and heavy and expensive batteries persist (as in not anywhere near as good an equivalent ICE vehicle) and the ■■■■ things are just so expensive even for something modest.

Fine for the well off and even the middle classes but people less fortunate could potentially be priced off the road and have to endure public transport, just like my working class grandparents did who couldn’t afford a car so even doing the weekly grocery shop took up a whole day of their weekend and was generally stressful, and they never saw much outside of our home city. I feel the freedom of motoring and mobility that mine and my parents generation is being taken away unless you can afford it.

bigstraight6:
I’m very uncomfortable with the direction of travel with The whole EV thing, with it being imposed with no choice in the matter and I don’t see it as progress, electric powered vehicles have been around for a very long time now and the age old issues with range and heavy and expensive batteries persist (as in not anywhere near as good an equivalent ICE vehicle) and the ■■■■ things are just so expensive even for something modest.

Fine for the well off and even the middle classes but people less fortunate could potentially be priced off the road and have to endure public transport, just like my working class grandparents did who couldn’t afford a car so even doing the weekly grocery shop took up a whole day of their weekend and was generally stressful, and they never saw much outside of our home city. I feel the freedom of motoring and mobility that mine and my parents generation is being taken away unless you can afford it.

^ Totally agree.
But remain to be convinced by the feasibility of that 3.5t 2,000 hp Merc Sprinter home build.I am a hot rodder at heart and that thing is a tempting offer.Even if I won’t be able to stop laughing at the pathetic sound of its whining motor. :smiling_imp:
Combined with the promise of electricity sold at the equivalent price of domestic gas 3p per kwh, :laughing: fair enough + road fuel duty and 20% VAT, all without blowing us all up and irradiating us in a nuclear disaster.
Surely the politicians wouldn’t be lying to us just so that China can take all the oil and gas. :wink:

Carryfast:

switchlogic:
FFS he misses the wide open goal AGAIN. For someone who is usually addicted to Google this is weird. What’s your favourite subject? About how all powerful China is taking over, about the CCP. Who owns Volvo (Cars) and their performance brand Polestar…, :unamused:

Blimey are the Chinese making Merc Sprinters and 7.5 tonners now. :smiling_imp: :laughing:
Those commy control freaks obviously won’t have my old school hot rodders mindset regardless so who gives a zb what they think they own.
Luckily I’m not going to see much of the brave new EV era but I’ve already invented just about the fastest super EV there will ever be it will make a Tesla look like a Vectra and a Polstar it’s a Volvo so call it a P1800. :smiling_imp:

Stopping it will be another matter but it’s got regenerative braking right a parachute can only be used once. :wink:

Christ it’s like hitting my head on a brick wall with you. What’s a van got to do with Volvo and Polestar?

Was thinking about earlier Carryfast, was telling Dad about you medically retiring by 40, which be both found a strange concept. Anyway it got me thinking. Do you never wonder what you could have been capable of and achieved had you set your clearly overactive mind and endless free time to something useful? It’s never too late.

switchlogic:
Christ it’s like hitting my head on a brick wall with you. What’s a van got to do with Volvo and Polestar?

Which part of 2,000 hp + and the capacity to carry the batteries that it will need to actually go anywhere didn’t you understand. :bulb: :wink:

switchlogic:
Was thinking about earlier Carryfast, was telling Dad about you medically retiring by 40, which be both found a strange concept. Anyway it got me thinking. Do you never wonder what you could have been capable of and achieved had you set your clearly overactive mind and endless free time to something useful? It’s never too late.

Thinking about Carryfast means he’s got into your head, now you need to get out of your head that the notion that EV’s are a good thing. It’s a disaster in the making that will cost more jobs than in creates and have a very negative impact for the personal mobility of the less well off.

My family ICE vehicles are a 2004 Volvo diesel, 2001 Mercedes petrol, 2007 Mercedes petrol and 2002 VW diesel, all old vehicles now but I maintain them to a high standard and they will give many years more of service and always pass the MOT emissions requirements easily.

Overpriced EV vehicles and the uncertainty of how long the expensive batteries may or may not last is not an option for us, let alone range and charging being inferior to an equivalent ICE vehicle, Progress means something is better than the thing it replaces.

bigstraight6:

switchlogic:
Was thinking about earlier Carryfast, was telling Dad about you medically retiring by 40, which be both found a strange concept. Anyway it got me thinking. Do you never wonder what you could have been capable of and achieved had you set your clearly overactive mind and endless free time to something useful? It’s never too late.

Thinking about Carryfast means he’s got into your head,

No it means I think about things, actually fairly common for humans to do that

My biggest concern is how long electric batteries last as well.
Because as a batteries performance will degrade over time.

So even if a battery may last say 8 years it is likely that the range of that battery will decrease dramatically in those 8 years.
This is the case if you drive 100,000 miles or 10,000 miles.

Also alot of these car batteries are built into the chasis. Making removing them such a tedious process and extremely expensive. I also hate the idea of ‘battery-leasing’.

There will be affordable EV cars though. The Wuling Hongguang Mini EV only costs $3,200 in China and it looks like a fantastic idea.
It may only have a 100 mile range but for most people that is more than enough.

youtube.com/watch?v=6Ytqr8T05OU

I’d def be intereted in getting one.

switchlogic:
Was thinking about earlier Carryfast, was telling Dad about you medically retiring by 40, which be both found a strange concept. Anyway it got me thinking. Do you never wonder what you could have been capable of and achieved had you set your clearly overactive mind and endless free time to something useful? It’s never too late.

Did you actually show him the medical report which took me out of the job.Bearing in mind that quack had obviously seen all the scans of the damage you haven’t.
While to be fair casually inventing a Bugatti Veyron eater EV, in the form of a 2,000 hp Merc Sprinter which, unlike the Chinese Volvo coupe, will also actually have a decent battery load capacity to actually go anywhere, ain’t a bad try for someone with Internal Combustion in their blood. :smiling_imp: :laughing: