Not my words. . The experienced international journalist described it that way.
“a quarrel in a faraway land between people of which we know nothing.”?
“peace in our time”?
Look mate I agree.
As I said it aint pretty it aint ideal…certainly not for Zelensky…
I aint just blindly sticking up for Trump here, I am a realist, I can see his motives aint selfless.
As I keep saying, he is a lethal hybrid of 2 dark harsh worlds, a shrewd politician and a hard assed businessman…of course he is in it for himself.
But the good bit (and the clever bit) it is also for the good of his country…that is his job.
I wish we had a politician that put HIS country and HIS people first,.even if it was a by product of ruthlesness and selfishness.
Then again I aint deluded or live in Cloudcuckoo Land …not aimed at you btw.
Really…how much better off are the Russian population? The GDP is bouncing along but the high Gini is increasing, inequality is bad and getting worse all the time,.
When did they last have free elections?
Seen the number of journalists tripping up near open windows?
The only thing that Trump puts first is himself - anything else is a bonus. He’s a right wing populist who desperately wants to get the Nobel Peace Prize, like Obama did. Who he sh!ts on to get it doesn’t matter.
Franglais ‘mate’ you dont get it.
I do not gaf what you think, or what the link you have dug up of a journalistthinks…that is his personal opinion.
The way I see it taking grudges and political personality preferences out of this…and MY opinion as a guy who drives a truck with no aspirations to be a politician…armchair or otherwise is this.
Out of a whole cluster ■■■■ of options of terrible potential ways to stop this war, (prioritising on saving lives…not political point scoring) this is the best deal on the table, the only deal on the table.
You can only play with the cards you hold.
Zelensky WILL eventually see this I think when he comes back down to Earth
If you think that Putain will stop at some agreed line and do no more at all, without a very strong international deterrent then you are probably mistaken.
The war is already costing everyone more in increased prices, and now more money for defence.
Appeasing Putain will not work, his list of broken treaties is impressive.
Oh ffs how many more times.
I have no illusions about Trump, I aint his apologist, I get what he is like.
I am merely trying to chuck some common sense and logic in the mix of hatred and predjudice, which is preventing people from seeing the true picture.
So ffs stop aiming your displeasure of Trump at me.
I’ll bookmark this remark for the end of his presidency. If Putin prevails in this war, China will make a move on Taiwan. But of course that will not be Trump’s fault it will all be down to Biden, as everything else seems to be. It was interesting when Zelensky brought up the fact that America had stood idly by since 2014 when Russia snatched Crimea Trump managed to gloss over his 4 years in charge. But then, he didn’t even know the date of that, stupidly correcting Zelensky saying that it was 2015. I’m all for the US president getting involved but it’s scary when you know that his motives are not in anyone’s best interests other than his. As for Vance he’s just big tech’s placeman, god help us if he ever gets the top job.
Bookmark wtf you like mate.
But at the same time bookmark the bit where I said …
Cheers.
I’m not aiming anything at you other than commenting on posts that you have made. That’s the whole point of grown up discussions on a forum. If you want to avoid the arrows then stop defending Trump to the extent that you are doing. You say that you are not an apologist for him but then go on to justify his actions. Make your mind up.
Do we know what the deal is or are we just taking about the ground mineral deal because that’s all that’s on the table by the looks of it
Your ambiguity is evident, to the point of trolling.
Ok so maybe the West should nuke him eh?
That would sort the job out…
Cheers…Thanks for your input.
Thank you. It’s a bit like that Monty Python sketch “Is this the right room for an argument?”.
Anyway, I don’t mean anything personal and I hope you don’t take it that way. If you do then I apologise. I’m going sit down with my wife, have a drink and settle in to the weekend. Have a good weekend yourself (and I mean that sincerely).
Over and out.
So TASS (Russian owned) was allowed to cover it , but not AP or Reuters who are independant? What does that say about Comrade Trump?
Russia is using conscripts and foreign troops. It is in trouble with it’s economy.
It wants the breather that Trump is offering it.
Trust Putain?
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/a-brief-history-of-russian-broken-promises-ukraine-war-cease-fire-6a725544
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
How many times do you think is too many?
1994, 20014, 2022, just for Ukraine. And he resinded the 1996 nuclear ban in 2003.

Anyway, I don’t mean anything personal and I hope you don’t take it that way. If you do then I apologise. I’m going sit down with my wife, have a drink and settle in to the weekend. Have a good weekend yourself (and I mean that sincerely
You are a gent sir
No need whatsoever for an apology at all.
MY gorgeous wife is 300 mile away and I am sat here in my undercrackers falling out with people over something I aint got a lot to do with in the bunk of my truck.
I wish I was spending the night with her (MINE btw I did not mean yours )
Have a good weekend yourself.