Busy Mr Trump

i know you dont give a rats flea infested backside about it but he is banging on about the electoral college where people in each state vote for the people (state electors) they want to represent them NOT the president. The state electors then vote whether they want trump or clinton or whomever and the president gets elected. Each individual person has to trust that the state electors will vote the way they said they would.

In 2016 5 electors voted for trump instead of clinton (thank god) and 2 voted for clinton instead of trump. He won 304 to 234 so even if everyone voted how they said they would of he still would of won 301 to 237 with a winning majority of 270 needed by either party.

all the above bs to say its typical leftie moaning they are happy with the system when it goes their way but disagree with it when it doesnt.

In 2016
62,984,828 voted for Trump
65,853,514 voted for Clinton.
Under the US system Trump won.

Democracy USA style with the main man calling all the shots nah more of a dictatorship.

nope 65,853,514 people didnt vote for clinton… 65,853,514 people voted for 237 state electorates that said they were going to vote for clinton same for trump.

your logic is that 33% of the uk population voted for starmer. they didnt they voted for the labour mp in their area in the hope that they would represent the voters wishes.

Ok thanks for pointing that out and clarifying.

I have never fully understood the US system, nor pretended to…
I aint really fully into the UK one tbh :joy: .

I kinda apply myself in things in life on the same basis…
A what ‘I NEED to know’ system.

Politics and tacho regulations are 1 and 2 on that list.:joy:

As I said I was obviously getting steered towards saying what he considered to be the wrong thing, but as you say, when it comes to intricacies of political systems ,.especially foreign ones ,…and indeed what tf Franglais thinks, the ‘‘rat’s flea infested ass’’ does come into play.:grin:

So to show my self confessed political ignorance once more,.(and to risk the patronising approach of Franglais) …
Does the same, or similar degree of ‘unfairness’ (for want of a better word) not also apply to parts in the British ‘votes for seats’’ system, …where the most actual individual votes cast does not aitomatically mean candidates will ‘‘get in’’.
A clumsy description but you know what I mean.:grin:

Q. how many people
..wanted their representatives to vote for Trump?
..wanted their representatives to vote for Clinton?

It is the US system, it is all legal according to US law.

I was not discussing the UK system.
I was talking about the US system hence me mentioning Trump, Clinton, and 2016.

Edit
And by the way your comment is a non-sequitur as I expect a student of philosophy and logic will already know.

here it is explained by bbc bitesize so im sure you will get it as its aimed at primary school children.

It would even be funny if it wasn’t so stupid

My answer to that (in the form of a question) is…
Why do you even care?

:joy: Ok thanks for acknowledging my level of education..:joy:
I would read it right now…but I’ve got some pins to stick in my eyes at present.:joy:
But thanks anyhoo.

they belong to australia so that is why so they cant side step the tarriffs. rather than the eu flooding the market with shoddy crap that is actualy made outside of the eu but because its assembled in some eu country they can claim its from the eu.

umm that wasnt aimed at you it was aimed at franglais

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I heard something interesting that I wasn’t aware of on the BBC news earlier this evening; apparently the GDP of all of the EU plus the GDP of the UK together are smaller than the GDP of the US. Perhaps that explains why Trump is prepared to accept an amount of fiscal pain because quite simply he’s playing from a position of overwhelming strength.

The US is Britains biggest trading partner to the effect of £300 billion a year, it’ll hurt us a lot more than them quite simply.

I find it interesting.
That is why I read, and post on this thread.
I do not come on here telling everyone I find all of this boring and that it doesn’t interest me. I leave that to others.

Chuffing heck…
Where does that come from?

The UK exported about £60bn of goods to the US in 2023.
Bloomberg, a respected and largely accurate and unbiased rating thinks that the UK is losing £100bn a year because of Brexit. The damning statistics that reveal the true cost of Brexit, five years on | The Independent

Even if Trump’s actions stopped 100% of UK to US exports it still would not be as harmful as Brexit already is.

As if it wasn’t hard enough living in the South Atlantic. This the result of taking a scattergun approach to problem solving.

What they need is a giant wind farm to produce enough electricity so that they can buy lots of Elon’s cars. That would just about even it up.

bloomberg isnt that the ones that the remain camp kept quoting saying we would all be starving with in 6 months completly unbiased obviously…
q1 of 2016 we exported 33,236 million worth of goods. q4 2024 42,135. so they increased by 8,899 million

Where as I do not come on here with an air of patronising superiority pretending I know both more than I actually do, and better than everybody else,
I leave that to others.

You really ought to get out more.