My mrs mudded the waters with I’ll have a new car , where it was me who needed one , it just nagging away with me ( like that mystery drama ) what is wrong with it
But now mrs is staying with her car I think I’ll always wonder what was the fault , but it’s time to just change , chucking a load of money at a car that’s done nearly 100k makes no sense , though I’ve no doubt it will end up a 2 nd opinion !!! Or me with my head in my hands after it goes pop , is worthless !!
What about that kawasaki you wanted from Chis Walker? Might throw in some waterproofs if you haggle.
njl:
What about that kawasaki you wanted from Chis Walker? Might throw in some waterproofs if you haggle.
I think the cheapest zx10r ( think it’s actually a 10 rr ) is 13,000 + at Chris Walker , I’m not paying that for a motorbike , just for a bit of fun
I’ve got a older fireblade that my nephew uses more than me , it lives at his house , it gets harder to justify it to the mrs by the day , it’s lovely but the wrong bike for what I wanted , probably a msx125 / monkey bike , Kawasaki zx250 would of made more sense , just a bit of fun ,
Rang another Ford garage for 2 nd opinion but there booked up until Oct , rang a independent & there booked up this week & next but he said if you pop it out tomorrow we will plug it in & come up with a course of action , I just said it felt down on power & eml light on , didn’t mention first diagnosis
Hopefully we get a answer , if not it goes , just be nice to know what it is
dozy:
They didn’t say the pump had gone down carryfast , they said it was showing up as weak ( or words to that effect ) , that maybe why it’s still running but feels down on power etc , I’ve run it all week around town & other than eml you’d struggle to know there was a fault
Head gasket - all I can say is temp is fine , no loss of coolant , oil looks fine
I may get a 2 nd opinion as mrs has decided puma would be too big for her so has cancelled it and is staying with her fiesta st , I’ve got to find a car , but it’s still bugging me what exactly is wrong with the car so I may go down the route of a 2 nd opinion , or if right car appears I may just get shot .
Firstly haven’t got a clue what a ‘vacuum pump’ would do other than to act as a brake vacuum servo booster ?.By definition it’s driven by the engine with no link to the induction system ?.
My guess is because the engine mostly runs in a state of manifold boost not vacuum ?.
So a knackered vacuum pump won’t affect the way the engine runs ?.
A head gasket can blow in a way that just means loss of compression from one cylinder to an adjacent cylinder or even outside the block to atmosphere.
There is no effect whatsoever on the cooling or lubrication system.
To my knowledge there is no electronic sensing and therefore on board logging of compression readings.
Or even a boost gauge which might show up a loss of boost pressure under load.
It would also mostly show up as a misfire under load and/or loss of power under load
The ecoboom is known for a design fault in its cylinder to head sealing which knackers the gasket not surprising under such silly boost levels.
the nodding donkey:
Driven by blokes who are somewhat lacking in the trouser department…just sayin, like.
I’m happy in that department.
Perhaps this is you projecting your own insecurities?
Just sayin like.
Carryfast:
dozy:
They didn’t say the pump had gone down carryfast , they said it was showing up as weak ( or words to that effect ) , that maybe why it’s still running but feels down on power etc , I’ve run it all week around town & other than eml you’d struggle to know there was a fault
Head gasket - all I can say is temp is fine , no loss of coolant , oil looks fine
I may get a 2 nd opinion as mrs has decided puma would be too big for her so has cancelled it and is staying with her fiesta st , I’ve got to find a car , but it’s still bugging me what exactly is wrong with the car so I may go down the route of a 2 nd opinion , or if right car appears I may just get shot .Firstly haven’t got a clue what a ‘vacuum pump’ would do other than to act as a brake vacuum servo booster ?.By definition it’s driven by the engine with no link to the induction system ?.
My guess is because the engine mostly runs in a state of manifold boost not vacuum ?.
So a knackered vacuum pump won’t affect the way the engine runs ?.
A head gasket can blow in a way that just means loss of compression from one cylinder to an adjacent cylinder or even outside the block to atmosphere.
There is no effect whatsoever on the cooling or lubrication system.
To my knowledge there is no electronic sensing and therefore on board logging of compression readings.
Or even a boost gauge which might show up a loss of boost pressure under load.
It would also mostly show up as a misfire under load and/or loss of power under load
The ecoboom is known for a design fault in its cylinder to head sealing which knackers the gasket not surprising under such silly boost levels.
Hopefully we get closure on what is wrong this afternoon , I know this engine gets bad press but I’m sure by 90000 most cars have had a issue / two , cerainely seems so reading online , Honda 1.0 has a cambelt running in oil that seems to have had a issue
I’ll report back
Carryfast:
dozy:
They didn’t say the pump had gone down carryfast , they said it was showing up as weak ( or words to that effect ) , that maybe why it’s still running but feels down on power etc , I’ve run it all week around town & other than eml you’d struggle to know there was a fault
Head gasket - all I can say is temp is fine , no loss of coolant , oil looks fine
I may get a 2 nd opinion as mrs has decided puma would be too big for her so has cancelled it and is staying with her fiesta st , I’ve got to find a car , but it’s still bugging me what exactly is wrong with the car so I may go down the route of a 2 nd opinion , or if right car appears I may just get shot .Or even a boost gauge which might show up a loss of boost pressure under load.
The boost can probably be seen in the obd diagnostics.
IIRR, even the Torque version that is free (torque lite nowadays) lets you see boost levels.
And that’s a free app, to connect to an elm327 Bluetooth wireless scanner (5 quid off ebay).
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dozy:
Carryfast:
dozy:
They didn’t say the pump had gone down carryfast , they said it was showing up as weak ( or words to that effect ) , that maybe why it’s still running but feels down on power etc , I’ve run it all week around town & other than eml you’d struggle to know there was a fault
Head gasket - all I can say is temp is fine , no loss of coolant , oil looks fine
I may get a 2 nd opinion as mrs has decided puma would be too big for her so has cancelled it and is staying with her fiesta st , I’ve got to find a car , but it’s still bugging me what exactly is wrong with the car so I may go down the route of a 2 nd opinion , or if right car appears I may just get shot .Firstly haven’t got a clue what a ‘vacuum pump’ would do other than to act as a brake vacuum servo booster ?.By definition it’s driven by the engine with no link to the induction system ?.
My guess is because the engine mostly runs in a state of manifold boost not vacuum ?.
So a knackered vacuum pump won’t affect the way the engine runs ?.
A head gasket can blow in a way that just means loss of compression from one cylinder to an adjacent cylinder or even outside the block to atmosphere.
There is no effect whatsoever on the cooling or lubrication system.
To my knowledge there is no electronic sensing and therefore on board logging of compression readings.
Or even a boost gauge which might show up a loss of boost pressure under load.
It would also mostly show up as a misfire under load and/or loss of power under load
The ecoboom is known for a design fault in its cylinder to head sealing which knackers the gasket not surprising under such silly boost levels.Hopefully we get closure on what is wrong this afternoon , I know this engine gets bad press but I’m sure by 90000 most cars have had a issue / two , cerainely seems so reading online , Honda 1.0 has a cambelt running in oil that seems to have had a issue
I’ll report back
Basically it’s the definition of the idea of using forced induction boost as a substitute for engine capacity and obviously lower production costs Then they dress it up as being good for the planet.
The head gasket is generally the weakest link in containing the resulting cylinder pressures.
It’s why I ordered the Zafira as 1.8 NA not the 1.4 turbo with great difficulty being one of the last few they had left in stock new after it was discontinued in production.Having said that forced induction can be great if it’s used as well as a big engine not instead of.Thereby minimising boost pressures.
Also fixing anything to do with the cylinder head was much easier with the old pushrod engines.But ironically both the 2.8 Granada or Triumph 2.5 for example were very robust in that regard like most of the big all iron low stressed 6 cylinder, or even relatively decent sized 4 cylinder engines like the Volvo B20, in the day.
Took car in for 2 nd opinion , plugged in using code reader & the code is pointing to the turbo , but as he’s not a mechanic he said he’d double check with his mate who is a Ford technician, apparently the technician said it could be turbo but it could be other things , lad listen to engine / look at oil & just said if it is turbo & it goes that’s a 7/8,000 new engine , but it could already be that , he didn’t want us to take it away , leave it with them & theyd look when they had a minute , he did say Ford had paid out on a lot of engines as they knew it had design faults , but age / mileage he didn’t think we’d get anywhere with that , offered us to take car off our hands , had a focus for sale but 19,000 was more than I wanted to pay though it was a diesel which he said had none of the issues the 1.0 petrol has
My head / mrs had gone by then , still not sure what was wrong with it , so went to Nissan garage & brought a car for me, told mrs to stay out of it , she has her car ( she’s spitting feathers !!! ) it will remain one of life’s mysteries
Thanks again for all the help , I’m glad it’s over , talk of £7/8000 engines makes me sure to get rid is the right decision
Ordered new ( used ) car on thurs night , as of today still no day we will get it , apparently when they’ve put it through workshop for pre - delivery inspection they’ve found some issues & have had to order some parts from Ford
Said to salesman I can cover using mrs car until tues , after that I’ll have to use mine , not happy , said you shouldn’t drive it with eml light on
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Don’t think it will blow up but if the last garages original diagnoses of turbo gone ( took covers off and it does sound / look that way ) than if it goes completely could take out engine , it could get interesting how we go
Forward on trade in etc
Nb did ask what was wrong with cat but not forthcoming on that , just said it was being sorted
They gave me 12 months warranty + for £400 took out a extra 24 months ( giving me 3 yrs so not overly worried ) , just got a feeling with my present car luck present car with ■■■■ it’s pants before we get to new car handover
Lesson to be learned , soon as car shows signs of a issue get rid
dozy:
Ordered new ( used ) car on thurs night , as of today still no day we will get it , apparently when they’ve put it through workshop for pre - delivery inspection they’ve found some issues & have had to order some parts from Ford
Said to salesman I can cover using mrs car until tues , after that I’ll have to use mine , not happy , said you shouldn’t drive it with eml light on
I
Don’t think it will blow up but if the last garages original diagnoses of turbo gone ( took covers off and it does sound / look that way ) than if it goes completely could take out engine , it could get interesting how we go
Forward on trade in etc
Nb did ask what was wrong with cat but not forthcoming on that , just said it was being sorted in the
They gave me 12 months warranty + for £400 took out a extra 24 months ( giving me 3 yrs so not overly worried ) , just got a feeling with my present car luck present car with [zb] it’s pants before we get to new car handover
Lesson to be learned , soon as car shows signs of a issue get rid
The flaw the plan is the perfect storm of over complicated, over stressed, modern cars and a used car market too often based on your own logic.
At best combined with insurance based ‘warranties’ in which the providers’ profit margins are dependent on them minimising their risk and outlay using numerous get outs and short cuts.
I count myself relatively lucky in running a known car from new which I’d specced in the least worst 1.8 NA petrol spec.With the win win that it’s also ULEZ compliant.
I’d like to trade it for a larger older simpler pushrod motor like 4.0 litre Grand Cherokee.
But they are predictably now silly money and it would have to be converted to manual.
While 4.0 litre petrol manual Discoveries are even more silly money and rarer than hens teeth.
Combined with paying ULEZ every time I cross Kahn’s border and that Muppet telling sellers to export what’s left of them all to Ukraine.
Carryfast:
dozy:
Ordered new ( used ) car on thurs night , as of today still no day we will get it , apparently when they’ve put it through workshop for pre - delivery inspection they’ve found some issues & have had to order some parts from Ford
Said to salesman I can cover using mrs car until tues , after that I’ll have to use mine , not happy , said you shouldn’t drive it with eml light on
I
Don’t think it will blow up but if the last garages original diagnoses of turbo gone ( took covers off and it does sound / look that way ) than if it goes completely could take out engine , it could get interesting how we go
Forward on trade in etc
Nb did ask what was wrong with cat but not forthcoming on that , just said it was being sorted in the
They gave me 12 months warranty + for £400 took out a extra 24 months ( giving me 3 yrs so not overly worried ) , just got a feeling with my present car luck present car with [zb] it’s pants before we get to new car handover
Lesson to be learned , soon as car shows signs of a issue get ridThe flaw the plan is the perfect storm of over complicated, over stressed, modern cars and a used car market too often based on your own logic.
At best combined with insurance based ‘warranties’ in which the providers’ profit margins are dependent on them minimising their risk and outlay using numerous get outs and short cuts.
I count myself relatively lucky in running a known car from new which I’d specced in the least worst 1.8 NA petrol spec.With the win win that it’s also ULEZ compliant.
I’d like to trade it for a larger older simpler pushrod motor like 4.0 litre Grand Cherokee.
But they are predictably now silly money and it would have to be converted to manual.
While 4.0 litre petrol manual Discoveries are even more silly money and rarer than hens teeth.
Combined with paying ULEZ every time I cross Kahn’s border and that Muppet telling sellers to export what’s left of them all to I Ukraine.
I agree carryfast , bigger older engines seem a lot more reliable , should of gone for 2.0 which doesn’t seem to have the issues 1.0 has , as mrs says car is just a stop gap to get us out of a hole , getting it maybe today though issues haven’t been sorted apparently , will have to take it back in when they have parts to do them , they don’t want us using present car with eml light on and as of tomorrow I would have too
Fingers crossed
Why make car with too much technology and computer just keep
make old fashion car with no technology like a micra old one shape
Still see Y reg around X reg and even older Micras with 200,000 mile or more on clock
dozy:
I just give up
Calmed down a bit , I can understand a engine cover missing if it was joe bloggs back street garage , but this car had a 100 point check apparently , the manager apparently gave it a thorough check , main dealer , I had a good look under bonnet when buying it but I guess for future ref check under bonnet before leaving garage , lifted bonnet soon as got home to double check oil / water etc , wheres the engine cover !!!
Will now find out what Nissan after sales is like
Though after driving this focus I realisehow down on power the other one was , like night & day .
Isobella Ferreria:
dozer , I have pre-ordered one these,if I don’t like it we can do a part exchange on your motor.
Thanks Isobella , but I’ve cashed the pension , drew out all the saving ( mrs has kicked me out , homeless ) & put a deposit down on this
dozy:
dozy:
I just give upCalmed down a bit , I can understand a engine cover missing if it was joe bloggs back street garage , but this car had a 100 point check apparently , the manager apparently gave it a thorough check , main dealer , I had a good look under bonnet when buying it but I guess for future ref check under bonnet before leaving garage , lifted bonnet soon as got home to double check oil / water etc , wheres the engine cover !!!
Will now find out what Nissan after sales is like
Though after driving this focus I realisehow down on power the other one was , like night & day .
Whats a engine cover
Bigtruck3:
dozy:
dozy:
I just give upCalmed down a bit , I can understand a engine cover missing if it was joe bloggs back street garage , but this car had a 100 point check apparently , the manager apparently gave it a thorough check , main dealer , I had a good look under bonnet when buying it but I guess for future ref check under bonnet before leaving garage , lifted bonnet soon as got home to double check oil / water etc , wheres the engine cover !!!
Will now find out what Nissan after sales is like
Though after driving this focus I realisehow down on power the other one was , like night & day .Whats a engine cover
Also called a bonnet, I’m surprised dozy didn’t notice it missing, until he got home. 