Mike-C:
Orys i’ll give you this in simple terms. This is my position with you personally and as a mod. And yes i know i’ve been guilty of indulging you when i really shouldn’t. But you seem to turn every thread around with a mention of EU drivers /into Hitler/ the war / Jews / and how Eastern Europeans are great.
I value your opinion and therefore I decided to spare few minutes and analyse your claims. I browsed the whole thread again and I think you should do it as well, before you write post like this again. Simply, go up and see who started it on Poland (while it’s a thread about Dutch company).
I only got involved on third page, because I got interested with how it could be viable to bring the tank of your own diesel here (nothing to do with EE). When answering this, I noticed double standards of some that I pointed out (as I believe it is important to remind truckneters that they should treat foreigners like equals, not like inferiors), provided some info on capacity of the typical Polish van as it was mentioned by someone who deals with small vehicles as well, so I thought that info might be useful for him and, finally, reacted to bigvern suggestion that there is something wrong with Polish companies transshiping loads.
Then I had some fun from bigvern viewtopic.php?f=2&t=92514&start=60#p1327049 as you can see along with another moderator from this forum - so I guess there is nothing wrong with that, unless it’s just wrong when I do and it’s perfectly OK when someone else does…
Then we discussed, mostly with billybigrig, the question of correlation between country of registration of vehicle and likeness of it being stopped by the service. Since many other participants (for example Gas Gas) joined discussion with interesting info, I guess this discussion was perfectly all right for trucknet. At least I learned something and answered some questions that I was asked, so I guess others also had a chance to learn something.
In meantime I bounced off some personal pokes from JB and such guys. I don’t think you can accuse me of any wrong when it comes to how I handled it, so if you have something to say about kicking the thread from interesting and valuable discussions into Britain-vs-Poland little war, in my homble opinion you should speak to these who start it. I know, I maybe should just ignore them instead of indulging them, but as you admitted yourself, if that’s the sin, we are both guilty of it.
Then thanks to Harry bringing the alegory of flat-earth we all got carried away and started to discuss such topics as Christopher Columbus and went so far as to question of nationality of MikoÅ‚aj Kopernik. As for the question of Judaism and Jewishness, I got a feeling that I don’t really grasp what you have in mind - it might be due either to that my English is still far from perfect, and even though I might use more elaborate language than some users of this forum, sometimes I still fail to get some meanings that are obvious for native speakers. In that case, please take my apologies and blame our disagreement on my misunderstanding of differences between race, nation etc.
So from my analise of the topic, I could say that there is no case to answer:
- I did not derailed the thread. It’s not that every mention of Poland result in me coming and screaming about Hitler and war, as you try to suggest. As you can see I did not reacted to the first post saying
Good news for anyone sick of polish ect running around on uk traction.
because there was nothing wrong with this. There is plenty of people who are sick of Polish etc running around on UK traction and I have no problem with that. So your claim that “I turn every thread with a mention of EU drivers into Hitler…” has no stand.
- I don’t think war is relevant, unless we discuss historical reasons for that we are in certain situation nowadays. On the contrary, as you can see in one of my posts in this thread, I am not interested in discussing Yalta when it has no relevance to the topic or it’s derivatives.
- You were wrong when you claimed that Kopernik was German, and don’t claim that you were wrong on other astronomical matters, so stop trying to ridiculle me by suggesting that I say that Poland is the centre of the Universe and other rubbish. After all, you are the mod here, it could be expected from you that you would behave better than Harry Monk.
If you think that I did anything wrong, like broke the rules, broke the law, were abusive, told lies, show disrespect to other forum users, broke netiquette rules etc - please feel free to point my wrong. If you just don’t like my style or find my writing boring - just don’t read me. Simple.
What you do, you lecture me on how to be on forum, accusing me of things i never did (like claiming superiority of Poland, derailing threads, bringing Hitler to everything etc.) while you ignore something that should draw your attention more. Maybe you haven’t noticed, but across that thread I was abused by being called “wee commie”, and several users suggested that I should go back to my own country with posts, that often needed to have some words autocenzored. Do you think that if I call you “you ■■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■■ and these words become autocensored, it’s as nothing never happened? If you do, we disagree on this.
I don’t think it’s a polite form of participating in a discussion, and if you, as a mod, feel that the quality of discussion should be improved, I think you should react to this first (I from my side decided to react to the biggest and most offensive things only, as I don’t want to bother mods with any silly crap that comes up as I believe that they have their own lives and more interested things to do. But since you already read this topic and actively take part in it, I am surprised that you never reacted to such behavior).
I really appreciate that you admit that you also got carried away and spined up that discussion - just as I did, or as Simon did by mocking bigvern1. But I am sorry, but I fail to see any other blame on my side. Standing to what I think is not a bad thing, and as for wasting my time here now instead of writing my uni stuff - well, that’s my private problem 
And you know what my last thought about it is? There are many more forum users that derail forum threads, that engage in never ending discussion about their pet topics and I never saw you lecturing them on how bad thing it is to do and telling them, with that superior notion, that this is the reason why nobody likes them.
Sadly, by picking me and blaming me for all what happened in this thread while ignoring some very unpolite behaviour towards me as presented by some other participants, you just proved my point: if you are Eastern European, you are allowed to do less.
you can watch how strongly he stresses that word here: youtube.com/watch?feature=pl … JjULbUrwK8 I think this describes Poles very well…