Winter tyres

Hi all.I consider myself a reasonable winter driver but in '‘winter’'conditions the tyres really do make the difference.Everybody here has 2 sets of wheels\tyres and the costs are no more expensive than anywhere else as each set is used for 6 months.When you buy a used car you almost always get summer and winter sets and a lot of new cars also offer this.
Milodon.I paid almost £150 per tyre for my new ones 235 x 16 inch, they will last for 3\4 winters and are worth every penny.Mike

we don’t have the geography to warrant those prices for a tyre I guess :smiley: pretty netherland-ish when it comes to the amount of hills, so these will do just fine I hope.

picked up 82 of these in däckproffsen i växjö on friday, so somebody has a use for some better ones around here :smiley:

When i used to drive international i went to Tallinn a few times with Glass.As you say,a bit like Nederland [where i lived for 30 yrs]
But up here it’s not excessive to have the right tyres,i put mine on in October and will take them off in April.
A bit curious profile on those tyres you picked up,i’d like to know what vehicle they are for.Mike
A fresh -30c tonight here.

hutpik:
When i used to drive international i went to Tallinn a few times with Glass.As you say,a bit like Nederland [where i lived for 30 yrs]
But up here it’s not excessive to have the right tyres,i put mine on in October and will take them off in April.
A bit curious profile on those tyres you picked up,i’d like to know what vehicle they are for.Mike
A fresh -30c tonight here.

Not going to mention hunting in case I offend mods with a weak stomach , but have never used winter tires yet and don’t intend to . Summer toys are in the shed ,and winter vehicles F150 4x4 ,Cherokee SRT8 , are adequately equipped as they are . The RAM and quad are only used when "hauling and dressing " four legged friends in the bush . Anyone want to see their breakfast again :question: :laughing:

commonrail:
my car doesnt spin in the rain or the snow.ive tried to get the t/c light to come on,but there is simply too much grip. my alloys are unmarked/as new if these winter tyres are so much better than your previous ones,i suggest you had the wrong ones on to start with...ill say it again…a good quality ALL ROUND tyre will cope perfectly with our climate.
i was toying with the idea of changing my car this year,but as mine has just turned 30k,and i cant afford the car i REALLY want...i think ill wait a while

My wife runs a BMW. She does around 25k a year to and from work etc.

Have had a set of Continental WinterContact fitted to a set of rims bought on eBay for £62 for the last three years.

The summer is spent on Continental PremiumContact 2s.

There is no contest which is better during the colder months, it’s well worth the time spent swapping them around twice a year.

The winter ones have at least one more season left in them, not bad when they cost about the same as the summer ones.

hutpik:
A bit curious profile on those tyres you picked up,i’d like to know what vehicle they are for.Mike

BigJon:

commonrail:
its propaganda...nothing but an advert. what are these "summer" tyres hes comparing them to…as i said earlier,a good quality all round tyre will see you through all the british climate has to offer us.
30 mph brake test on snow and ice…in this country :question: …i dont think so. drag race...yeah right :laughing: oh and then theres the convienience factor.where am i supposed to keep the eight spare wheels :question: buy a shed,perhaps :smiley:
cheap wheels on ebay :question: …again…not happening

winter tyres my arse :laughing:

You must be really bad at maths, You wouldnt have 8 spares, 4 would be on your vehicle. As for Winter tires vs summer tires, Winter tires win hands down. I dare you to bring your summer tires here and drive on them … :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: , keep a towing companies phone number on speed-dial.

derrr…2 cars in the houseold.and ill say it yet again....i dont have summer tyres,i have good quality all round tyres.
if i lived in canada,i would probably use different tyres…just as i would if i lived in malaga :bulb:

btw…10 degrees here now.i`d better spend the afternoon changing car wheels instead of going to the pub :laughing:

H all. FTTM.ah ha.Was that why the thread disappeared,because of the hunting pics,very strange,you see pics of smashed trucks but not allowed to have dead animals,it’s only the ‘‘before’’ of what you see in the supermarket.And before anyone says anything they are as relevant to transport as anything else on the threads.
I thought it was because of the ‘‘horror’’ pics of Ricardo. :wink: [joke old chap].

Milodon.Thanks for the pic.Think they are a bit OTT for my pick up :unamused: Mike

Last year I was running an Audi A6 quattro and when the snow came I had no problems getting or keeping going but stopping was rather alarming (I live at the top of some big hills)

I fitted winter tyres and it was chalk & cheese. I could now brake almost normally in all conditions. I also noticed, the hill climb to my house, prior to winter tyres I could feel the quattro system doing it’s job. Drive was moving around the wheels and traction control lights flickering on the dash. The car was working hard and progress slow but steady with some wheel slip/spin. With the winter tyres, no traction control light and no sense the quattro system was doing anything other than normal driving.

I also noticed on cold days when it was just wet the car felt more stable under hard acceleration or braking - I came to the conclusion it gripped better in the cold temperatures. Spirited driving often had the car take the throttle away - try as hard as you like with the quattro and it will do it’s best to stop you cornering on large throttle openings and losing traction. With the winter tyres during winter months the car seemed faster when making progress.

Unfortunately i now run a Peugeot (Times are hard). Not had it long. Decent Pirelli tyres all round and up until now on cold days the front grip has been complete rubbish and if snow or slush was around it was almost non existent. Excessively hard braking also activated the ABS on cold wet days. I couldn’t get anywhere near my house once snow was on the ground. I have just fitted some cheap remould winter tyres and the car is transformed and so far even in the lovely deep fresh snow over the weekend I can get up the hill - and even back down stopping at the bottom. Grip on wet roads is improved.

My own experience is that proper winter tyres are far better suited to November to March driving conditions than all round tyres and make a vast difference in snow, slush and ice and a big difference in wet conditions. As far as I can see it is all to do with temperature when there’s no snow around and the tread pattern when there is snow.

i havnt experienced any of these problems..can you explain why :question:

I’ve for the first time ever fitted snow tyres to my car. A brilliant move! I bought an extra alloy off ebay for £35 and then bought 2 Michelin winter tyres from Mytyres at a cost of £80 each. Fitted them to the front drive wheels of my Passat.
I live in Saddleworth and we have our fair share of snow. I really recommend snow tyres!

commonrail:
i havnt experienced any of these problems..can you explain why :question:

it’s because you are a brilliant driver uncomparable with the plebs who need winter tyres to be comfortable. yup, that’s it.

commonrail:
i havnt experienced any of these problems..can you explain why :question:

what car do you drive?

muckles:

commonrail:
i havnt experienced any of these problems..can you explain why :question:

what car do you drive?

freelander

commonrail:

muckles:

commonrail:
i havnt experienced any of these problems..can you explain why :question:

what car do you drive?

freelander

You’ve said before that’s with semi off road tyres, as opposed to normal road tyres.

That thing is most of us have normal 2 wheel drive road cars you can’t buy knobbly tyres for them.
Also most modern ish road cars, mine 11 years old, have quite wide low profile tyres, especially compared with years ago, these are good for grip in normal conditions, but not so good when on snow.

ok…point taken.

commonrail:
ok…point taken.

I also wonder if tyre compounds are harder now than a generation ago, I remember my dad never seem to have to many problem in the snow with his RWD Cortinas and a bag of cement in the boot. But the tyres were very skinny compared with today.
Tyre manufactures try and make tyres that have a lower rolling resistance to improve fuel consumption, tyre life and noise.

There is no such thing as the perfect tyre, it’s all a compromise, even in this Country a standard tyre would have to cope with a temperature range from about -10 to +30 Celsius and road conditions from screaming hot dry roads to snow and ice covered roads and various conditions between including slight damp, wet and very wet, plus various road surfaces.
That a very difficult balancing act and the fact they can do that reasonably well is quite amazing when you think about it, so a tyre that designed for a smaller range of temperatures should work far better in it’s optimum conditions than a standard set that has to do everything.

I don’t think they’d make sense for everybody, especially if you do low mileage as they’ll probably deteriorate before you wear them out, but I do a fair few miles each year so I think I’ll wear them out in about 3 winters and get an extra year from my standard tyres.

13 degrees with heavy rain tomorrow…anyone want to borrow my uniroyal ralleye 4x4 rain tyres :smiley:

also available in non 4x4 sizes

commonrail:
13 degrees with heavy rain tomorrow…anyone want to borrow my uniroyal ralleye 4x4 rain tyres :smiley:

also available in non 4x4 sizes

I wonder if they are, in fact, winter tyres.

Do they have a symbol of a mountain with a snowflake on the sidewall?