Winter tyres

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GasGas:

commonrail:
13 degrees with heavy rain tomorrow…anyone want to borrow my uniroyal ralleye 4x4 rain tyres :smiley:

also available in non 4x4 sizes

I wonder if they are, in fact, winter tyres.

Do they have a symbol of a mountain with a snowflake on the sidewall?

I’ll have a look,and let you know

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Commonrail if you’re on Uniroyal Rain Experts/Sports then you are already on one the best regarded non season specific all year use tyres for winter use anyway.

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Non season specific,and all year round,being the operative words

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I’ve recently put winter tyres on my volvo and rate them, make the car feel much more planted, there a fair bit noiser on though.

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muckles:

commonrail:
ok…point taken.

I also wonder if tyre compounds are harder now than a generation ago, I remember my dad never seem to have to many problem in the snow with his RWD Cortinas and a bag of cement in the boot. But the tyres were very skinny compared with today.
Tyre manufactures try and make tyres that have a lower rolling resistance to improve fuel consumption, tyre life and noise.

There is no such thing as the perfect tyre, it’s all a compromise, even in this Country a standard tyre would have to cope with a temperature range from about -10 to +30 Celsius and road conditions from screaming hot dry roads to snow and ice covered roads and various conditions between including slight damp, wet and very wet, plus various road surfaces.
That a very difficult balancing act and the fact they can do that reasonably well is quite amazing when you think about it, so a tyre that designed for a smaller range of temperatures should work far better in it’s optimum conditions than a standard set that has to do everything.

I don’t think they’d make sense for everybody, especially if you do low mileage as they’ll probably deteriorate before you wear them out, but I do a fair few miles each year so I think I’ll wear them out in about 3 winters and get an extra year from my standard tyres.

I have had problems with my Cortina and Granad, but the snow was pretty more than in the UK. Then I bought wintertyres fr the Granada and she was much mich nicer to drive… My son has a Rover 100 with tin tyres and he manged to get out of the car park every morning, but the neighbours could not. :wink: :wink:

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i picked up a set of part worns for last winter on the V6 (FWD) and noticed the difference straight away on an icy road. that car is now in bits as a donor car but the VR4 coped with no problems at all on snow the other day with very worn normal tyres. im guessing the difference between winter and normal tyres with the VR4 (AWD) will be far less noticeable for traction but cornering may still see some value in winter tyres. unfortunately the weather is not remaining cold enough to fit them to the alloys. i am planning on doing what i did with the V6 and having a set of winter alloys and a set of non winter alloys so i can swap them over rather than changing the tyres over

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scanny77:
i picked up a set of part worns for last winter on the V6 (FWD) and noticed the difference straight away on an icy road. that car is now in bits as a donor car but the VR4 coped with no problems at all on snow the other day with very worn normal tyres. im guessing the difference between winter and normal tyres with the VR4 (AWD) will be far less noticeable for traction but cornering may still see some value in winter tyres. unfortunately the weather is not remaining cold enough to fit them to the alloys. i am planning on doing what i did with the V6 and having a set of winter alloys and a set of non winter alloys so i can swap them over rather than changing the tyres over

“Winter alloys”■■? The salt damages every alloys… Buy the old good steel ones and put on some nice rims, job done. :slight_smile:

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Of course winter tires are mounted on the car. May be that it’s mandatory to have them but even without a law I would have them. You wouldn’t be able to drive around with summer tires when everyone else is using winters. They expect you to be able to stop in the same distance as them not 100m later.

The truck also has them. Front and drive axle. The trailer also has it on the middle and last axle. Not mandatory to have on the truck but it’s an unwritten law that you mount winter tires on the truck also in October.

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Dennisthemenace:

scanny77:
i picked up a set of part worns for last winter on the V6 (FWD) and noticed the difference straight away on an icy road. that car is now in bits as a donor car but the VR4 coped with no problems at all on snow the other day with very worn normal tyres. im guessing the difference between winter and normal tyres with the VR4 (AWD) will be far less noticeable for traction but cornering may still see some value in winter tyres. unfortunately the weather is not remaining cold enough to fit them to the alloys. i am planning on doing what i did with the V6 and having a set of winter alloys and a set of non winter alloys so i can swap them over rather than changing the tyres over

“Winter alloys”■■? The salt damages every alloys… Buy the old good steel ones and put on some nice rims, job done. :slight_smile:

standard alloys for winter as they are very poor quality anyway, aftermarket alloys for summer. neither are of any use now as the V6 is a uk car with 4 stud wheel pattern and the VR4 is 5 stud and now i am very limited with wheel choice. i upgraded to EVO 8 brembos so i can only use EVO spec alloys now. im using a set of pretty rough EVO VI alloys just now but i want a set of EVO IX alloys for summer use although typically, it turns out the ones i saw on a mates EVO IX wagon are the limited edition BBS alloys so quite rare :unamused:

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These

truckingtopics.co.uk/michelinmuliway3.html

appear to be a sort of ‘year-round’ winter truck tyre for the UK market.

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GasGas:
These

truckingtopics.co.uk/michelinmuliway3.html

appear to be a sort of ‘year-round’ winter truck tyre for the UK market.

They come as standard on my new Merc and tbh it spins the drive axle for fun in all weathers, and it’s only a 450bhp. But I must admit, the traction on corners is excellent in normal weather.

It got stuck in the snow, but I got it free, the tyres were nothing like winter tyres tbh

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I really can’t understand why you’re fitting winter tires in Britain , you don’t get that much of a brutal winter do you ? The odd day or two but not much more :laughing: Not taking the ■■■■ but 8 winters later in Canada and still not used winter tires , go figure eh :smiley: .
Advertising = brand awareness , discuss :laughing:

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flat to the mat:
I really can’t understand why you’re fitting winter tires in Britain , you don’t get that much of a brutal winter do you ? The odd day or two but not much more :laughing: Not taking the ■■■■ but 8 winters later in Canada and still not used winter tires , go figure eh :smiley: .
Advertising = brand awareness , discuss :laughing:

Having used winter tyres for 3 years, I don’t need any advertising to make me keep using them.
The product works better than the product I had before so it will continue to be used until an even better alternative pops up ( retirement?)
I found my van (and my MPV) feels better with winter tyres on, and when we do get bad weather it still works, which it didn’t do with the OEM tyres.
I can afford winter tyres, I feel happier using winter tyres, and I earn more money by using winter tyres which allow me to work almost normally even when the roads are bad.
Frankly, if you haven’t tried them yourself, you don’t know what you’re missing. You may be able to get by without them, many people do, but with them you would be able to do more and do it quicker.
Our winter snow here in the UK is the horrible wet kind which packs down to solid ice where the roads aren’t salted, or turns rapidly into slush, not the dry powdery kind of snow you usually get in Canada. Winter tyres also grip better than OEM tyres in all conditions, not just in snow, so feel more firmly planted on the road.
Besides which, we aren’t all as fantasticly skilled as yourself. :unamused:

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just watched sundays top gear on iplayer,in which winter tyres were briefly covered(says it all really).james may reckons they`re suitable for half a day a year in this country :grimacing:

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Dennisthemenace:
“Winter alloys”■■? The salt damages every alloys… Buy the old good steel ones and put on some nice rims, job done. :slight_smile:

not if theyre properly painted/laquered salt only gets into the wheel when youve rubbed them up against a kirb…exposing bare metal.it then works it`s way in…behind the paint