Oh ffs !! 
Getting far too many lumps on my headā¦
robroy:
Oh ffs !!
Getting far too many lumps on my headā¦0
Rob heās a lost cause like the other sock puppets
fuse:
With a log book you could put a fair days work in for a fair days payā¦
That comes across as you used to fraudulently book more time working than you did, in order to make up your earnings. I must have misunderstood you.
I am one of those drivers that actually works 40 hours a week. To be precise 42 hours or anyone else working a 4on4off. It brings home a wage slightly above average so to say lorry drivers are paid poorly isnāt really correct. They earn a salary that is the median salary of the country for 40 hours worked.
Ā£930ish take home for 4.5 days on the cars at a good company. Hard work, which seems to put off many. Paid compulsory rest too. Best job there is in haulage
I know two drivers who work for Martin Brower in Coventry and they take home Ā£1,000- Ā£1,200 a week. But they start at silly oā clock, typically 01:30, work weekends, do maximum hours and the work is hard physical graft. I take home about half of that, but I start at 08:00 and finish around 16:00 and normally drive little more than an hour or two a day.
Im happy (reasonably) with what I get for what I do, Iāve driven specialised heavy plant and compared to trucks its ******* horrible steering with one hand holding on with the other dust storms in the summer, winter like the somme same place same thing day in day out.
The good jobs are about if youāre prepared to work weekends or odd start times there is money to be earned forget for profit transport unless its specialised, company owners wonāt pay a penny more than they have to for drivers next to fuel its the biggest cost.
The profit margins in transport are so minute your wonāt earn a decent wage if you do youāll work like a donkey the ingoing costs are huge, own account is the daddy right now no contracts to be won or lost nice and steady everything takes forever get shown how to climb in and out of a cab and how to wind the legs up marvellous.
Harry Monk:
I know two drivers who work for Martin Brower in Coventry and they take home Ā£1,000- Ā£1,200 a week. But they start at silly oā clock, typically 01:30, work weekends, do maximum hours and the work is hard physical graft. I take home about half of that, but I start at 08:00 and finish around 16:00 and normally drive little more than an hour or two a day.
Iāve had coworkers whoāve left our rather comfy hours and work and gone to for more pay but are now maxing out for not much gain and having to run out Sundays or run in Saturdays 
mike68:
The profit margins in transport are so minuteā¦
This, big style. I remember my early conversations with either owner-drivers or operators of small companies, I was genuinely shocked at how a whole industry could operate on low-end single-digit profit margins, it beggars belief.
Zac_A:
mike68:
The profit margins in transport are so minuteā¦This, big style. I remember my early conversations with either owner-drivers or operators of small companies, I was genuinely shocked at how a whole industry could operate on low-end single-digit profit margins, it beggars belief.
But itās self inflicted by them cutting rates to ribbons to get work off each other over the years.
How do they carry it off?..on the backs of their drivers by paying relatively low wages,.and devising pay structures to do away with extra pay for overtime etc.
ā¦ and which many drivers ābuy in toā by believing āproppa trukkazā work like that, because thatās the nature of the industry. Vicious circle or self-fulfilling prophecy, the naming doesnāt matter, it comes back to your comment that drivers are their own worst enemy because they accept poor pay/working conditions as the norm.
dozy:
Rikki-UK:
dozy:
I disagree , I earnt Ā£901 last week , 60 1/2 hrs running palls from depot to warehouses ,that days , the lads where I am on nights / tramping would be on over 1 k pw , and our pay Iād say is nothing special , average , the agency lads doing 5/6 , every hour god sends are well over 1 k pw ( Iāve seen it with my own eyes ) , I was always over 1k when on agency
Weāve suoermarket lads on here on 50 kIs that on top or take home? if thereās is lads/lasses taking home Ā£900 a week on supermarket work then I stand corrected, but I have never met one yet
mom- fri tramping , delivering to rdc/ cash & carrys , you can do it as i say , but i was maxing put hours , and was on a good hourly rate
I doubt that was a 5 day, 50 hour week. Please tell us, how many hours, and days, you worked to make that. And then work out how much (or little) you can work, and earn, next weekā¦
Zac_A:
ā¦ and which many drivers ābuy in toā by believing āproppa trukkazā work like that, because thatās the nature of the industry. Vicious circle or self-fulfilling prophecy, the naming doesnāt matter, it comes back to your comment that drivers are their own worst enemy because they accept poor pay/working conditions as the norm.
The other thing that beggars belief, if they eventually manage to drop onto a decent job once theyāre past the initial trial period they start to take the ā ā ā ā out of the full sick pay, mince about finding the usual minor defect to get out of covering the second run, infinite variations of similar game playing, donāt look after and sometimes wreck the kit, canāt be arsed to look after the job or the customerā¦then seem astonished when in due course the company gets cheesed off with trying to manage a yardful of adolescent ā ā ā ā takers and like so many before them put the job out to contract, and theyāre back at square one.
Yup, drivers sadly are their own worst enemies in so many ways.
the nodding donkey:
dozy:
Rikki-UK:
dozy:
I disagree , I earnt Ā£901 last week , 60 1/2 hrs running palls from depot to warehouses ,that days , the lads where I am on nights / tramping would be on over 1 k pw , and our pay Iād say is nothing special , average , the agency lads doing 5/6 , every hour god sends are well over 1 k pw ( Iāve seen it with my own eyes ) , I was always over 1k when on agency
Weāve suoermarket lads on here on 50 kIs that on top or take home? if thereās is lads/lasses taking home Ā£900 a week on supermarket work then I stand corrected, but I have never met one yet
mom- fri tramping , delivering to rdc/ cash & carrys , you can do it as i say , but i was maxing put hours , and was on a good hourly rate
I doubt that was a 5 day, 50 hour week. Please tell us, how many hours, and days, you worked to make that. And then work out how much (or little) you can work, and earn, next weekā¦
If you mean me , it clearly states Days , 60 1/2 hrs , can you not read , 5 days , sun - thurs
How do I know what Iām going to earn next week , I might have a heart attack / stroke or win the lottery sat
If you mean this week Iāve done 42 hrs upto now ( 3 days ) , today is looking like 13/14 hrs ( luckily Iāve a split rest to use ) , then thurs / sat is anyoneās guess , maybe bloke who dishes out work will be nice & give me 2 x 12 hrs shifts , no idea
But it will definitely be more money than Ā£900 , and more hours
Got what I wanted , employed & days ( though 23.00/ midnight / 1 am starts is stretching days a bit ) but whatever itās better than agency / tramping , though money is not as good .
Socketset:
JIMBO47:
Iāve got to say this ā¦the general opinion in the late 60s drivers were labourers with a license, the test coming in gave a bit of respectability but still labourers with a licence and if you ask some employers today they think the same.I recon I got more respect 40yrs back as a machine operator and treated better, then became just another driver in81. Donāt shoot the messenger.This mindset is still around today - Iāve always said that some people think that a truck driver is a labourer with a bit of paper.
A very well-known owner of a large family owned haulage firm once said straight up in a meeting with union reps, and I quote" drivers are a component like a gear box, if they break I get a new one" thats the attitude you have to deal with
dozy:
How do I know what Iām going to earn next week , I might have a heart attack / stroke or win the lottery sat
If you mean this week Iāve done 42 hrs upto now ( 3 days ) , today is looking like 13/14 hrs ( luckily Iāve a split rest to use ) , then thurs / sat is anyoneās guess , maybe bloke who dishes out work will be nice & give me 2 x 12 hrs shifts , no idea
But it will definitely be more money than Ā£900 , and more hours
Got what I wanted , employed & days ( though 23.00/ midnight / 1 am starts is stretching days a bit ) but whatever itās better than agency / tramping , though money is not as good .
You can keep it for me doze,.sounds ā ā ā ā horrendous.
With your age and your ill health you should be winding down a bit mate, not running round like you are still 25.
Money is out there, with this years pay rise 900 a week for my basic 45hrs. Lucky if I do more than 6hrs a day actual work and if I do over 4hrs drive I nearly faint. Afternoon start, home in bed by midnight. Electric power truck a few pallets around, hardly taxing work and yeah, its a supermarket. Our night guys, mostly trunking are over a grand a week. Throw some OT into the mix and its a proper chunk of change for very little effort.
robroy:
Raker:
My post is a Rant about poor rates I currently based in south east uk is it no wonder there is a shortage of drivers , taking into Account training costs then the problem with parking especially in
The south east and greater London , if I can give an Example ADT dump truck a new driver operating A 30 tonne ADT could get upto 18 an hour you donāt need a car license but would need a plant training certificate, once operater passes NVQ and goes to a blue CPCS cab expect upto Ā£21 an hour On CIS through payroll company, only obstacles are seasonal work so by October November Earth works close down telehandler are on over Ā£20 hour , small dumpers 6 tonne Ā£16 hour with scope for mote once NVQ is Achieved and wagon drivers are on a lot less for a job that Carryās lots more responsibility.When guys come on here saying they intend to spend their x number of thousands on driving courses, Iāve always said they would be better off getting their tickets on machines, much more lucrative than driving a [zb] truck for a livingā¦with I would guess a fraction of the b/s we have to put up with these days.
Thatās my take on it anyway.
Yup, you could drive a stacka truck (tele handler) on a building site for a minimum of Ā£15 an hr
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Yeahā¦but you could drive an artic on Ā£20 an hour,and not be covered in ā ā ā ā .
Whatever dozy did or didnāt do for that there is one thing that jumped out at me - all that money and pension contribution of just Ā£33 
That is awful and Iām constantly amazed at how people neglect things like pension and discard it or overlook it as part of an overall package.