i was reading dave’s thread about malcomes running flats with blue pallets to france now that has got to be a wasteing money exercise.
when i was at longs of leeds i collected 26 pallets of holiday brouchers and took them to a place at milton park. they took them of and stuck them straight in the skip, when i queried this they said it was a way of getting rid of money some sort of tax saving idea.
i didnt fully understand it but then well never mind i was just the driver.
what ways have you seen money more or less being burned.
Our company quite often return load GKNs on the foreign wagons it must be fairly cheap to do it and they know their goods will be coming back on them pretty soon so it must be cost effective.
Taken trailers full of scrap computer kit from Germany to the UK, where on arrival they go straight into skips. It is cheaper to pay the transport costs to the UK and bin them here than to pay the charges to dispose of them in Germany.
Our company quite often return load GKNs on the foreign wagons it must be fairly cheap to do it and they know their goods will be coming back on them pretty soon so it must be cost effective.
We used to load empty Aluminium Coil Pallets from Wednesbury, take them down to Sierre in Switzerland, and then bring a full load of Ally Coils back to Wednesbury. It was a regualr Uniex job they did every week, so it must have paid to do it.
when you work out the cost of buying a pallet or hireing it,sending 600 odd back on a truck is cheap.Cost i think of making a chep pallet is around £15 each.
I have recovered completely burnt out car shells back from Europe as the insurance company do not believe the European garage that the car has been totalled! We all pay for their distrust but it does keep me employed
Last year on DBC in the school holidays I had two drops both small ending up back in Chelmsford by the depot. When I got back to the depot they gave me an order for Tunbridge Wells, value of which was about £26. I took it out of the cage, carried it in my arms, opened the side door of the 18 tonner and placed it in the fridge body. 3hr round trip plus fuel.
European is where the stupidity peaks I found. Driving cream around from place to place till its nearly gone off to gain EEC grants, Pork down to Southern France and pork back to uk from the same place. Me and a mate doubled manned one pallet of cartoon cards that go into cereal packets as a kids freebie once, in a triaxle artic to Poland. It was heavy mind, all of 100kgs!!
well for wasting money our campany has to top it i take a yellow bag from birmingham to newcastle or ipswich in a 44ft i have learnt at our place never ask why, what, or how and then u night out with the yellow bag and come back empty most of the time or 2plts
A few years ago I took an artic from the Midlands to a Sainsbury RDC in West London (can’t remember the name). Parked outside. Spoke to security and then carried about twelve boxes in through the gates. Multiple load - it took two journeys.
don’t think many firms would come close to corus steels for wasting money in transport, before now i’ve taken a load of brightbar to wednesbury, had it taken off and put in racks then as i was loading my backload for rotherham, seen that same steel loaded onto a squires wagon for hetton the next day, that wagon gets within about two mile of rotherham works on it’s way to hetton
the load will have done two hundred mile on two different wagons for absolutely nothing!
Bet some of the container bods can give some pretty eye opening examples, heres some of mine.
40’ box from USA to Aberdeen via Felixstowe, contained a 100 kg 2’x2’ packing case containing a spare part.
20’ open top box MT from Liverpool to Malton to load with steel, box rejected because the top was missing, instructed to continue to the Isle of Grain as originally planned.
40’ high cube loaded with s/h fridges in Leeds, sent to Pakistan to be dumped.
40’ high cube of baled coke cans from Isle of Grain to Alcoa in Warrington for recycling, the box had been loaded in Adelaide, Oz.
Several 20’ boxs loaded with shredded scrap metal, sent to India, Pakistan etc for recycling into steel.
Several 40’ high cubes loaded with baled paper or plastic waste, again for India, Pakistan etc for recyling.
I used to work for an Irish firm who did uk Ireland work, Woodside Haulage.
I picked up a triler full of cheese from St Ivels, took it up to Stranraer for the ferry over to Belfast.
Thought nothing of it till the next week sent Holyhead to pick up a trailer going to St Ivels same load same trailer same seal same paperwork.
Funny thing was, it was Irish Chedar.
So it went from a cheese factory to Belfast down to Dublin and back to the same cheese factory, tax fiddle or what.
When I worked for Wilsons @ Boroughbridge we used to do a load every week to Milan of steel drill pipes - the load you took one week you collected after it had been cleaned and brought it back to the same place in the UK you collected it from.
Big Joe:
Several 20’ boxs loaded with shredded scrap metal, sent to India, Pakistan etc for recycling into steel.
Several 40’ high cubes loaded with baled paper or plastic waste, again for India, Pakistan etc for recyling.
Big money in that Joe, VERY big money in fact. When I did containers I reckon 85% of the reloads were either out of a waste paper place in Bradford just off Manchester Rd or a scrap metal place in Bourne, Lincs.
They way they go on you’d think that they’ve never seen or heard of paper and metal before in Africa/India etc.
Wheel Nut:
Blue pallets is like money for old rope.
Me and several others regularly loaded from Chep Birmingham to Rennes, to get a return load of blue pallets from Chep Rennes to Chep Birmingham
I thought I understood this pallet business 'till I read that. Chep’s idea to save up a full trailer load of empties and shift them to where they are needed makes more sense than all that mucking about exchanging, or not, Euro pallets. (You go to load with Euros and they won’t take them. You go to load without Euros and they refuse to load you.) But this takes the biscuit, maybe they were the wrong shade of blue Malc .
Talking of biscuits, my last firm’s biggest contract was with LU Biscuits. We spent most of our time fully laden with biscuits all over France tipping and loading at the same factories/warehouses.
In the days of cross border permits I fronted up at Newry with a load of doors from Stockton to Dublin. Refused entry (boss said I didn’t need one) I sat back and waited for the solution for several hours. Which was - ‘go back to the border, drop the trailer and paperwork, return to Larne and take the ferry back to Stranraer, then bounce down to Liverpool, take the ferry to Dublin, and pick up the trailer from the Irish haulier who is going up to Newry to collect your trailer and tip it and reload it in Dublin. . Then catch the boat back to Liverpool and carry on.’
You know me, never one to argue, I returned to the border where the official looked at me with total incredulity (the same expression I had had when first told of the plan) before saying ‘Ah, sod it, off ye go to Dublin, but don’t come back here again without a permit.’ Common sense at last but I felt so bad about doing that Irish driver out of a job.
a firm i do some work with bring UK made excavators back from 2 dealers in france - several times they have had to wait for the UK motor to tip them while they sit there waiting to take them back to UK - no idea what the fiddle is
airhorn98:
I used to work for an Irish firm who did uk Ireland work, Woodside Haulage.
I picked up a triler full of cheese from St Ivels, took it up to Stranraer for the ferry over to Belfast.
Thought nothing of it till the next week sent Holyhead to pick up a trailer going to St Ivels same load same trailer same seal same paperwork.
Funny thing was, it was Irish Chedar.
So it went from a cheese factory to Belfast down to Dublin and back to the same cheese factory, tax fiddle or what.
Could be connected to Scotch beef the only rule is that the beast is slaughtered in Scotland therefore its Scotch Beef but driven up from England, its probably the same fiddle with the Cheese.
There are so many fiddles within the EU as certain areas are classed as deserving of grants and aid for the reason of economic development. That means that goods from these areas get a percentage of the market value on top of the market value.Its a papework exercise so theres so much scope for fiddles. The cream scam I heard about meant that certain areas of northern france got a better price and it was worth shipping it in, retaining it for a length of time and then shipping it on to another area that also got a grant. The cream was literally gaining value by moving it about but the problem is that you and I are paying for this. As long as the paperwork was filled in correctly some bod in an office in Brussels stamped it as valid and applied the grant.
You couldnt make it up really
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