Were The Continental Lorry's Much Better?

UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUMS OLD TIME LORRIES, COMPANIES AND DRIVERS (INTERACT
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Dave the Renegade:

Carryfast:

Dave the Renegade:

Carryfast:

gingerfold:

Carryfast:

Saviem:
Hello all, simple fact, UK useage was far more intense in terms of utilisation, ton miles, and speed, than the rest of Europe. The Swedes could not believe what we did with the little F86, but it was perfect for 32ton operation, 192hp, legal 22ton payload, so manouverable it was untrue and economic, a gaffers and drivers motor all in one!! Can anyone suggest another that has fulfilled that role since?? Cheerio.

For ‘intense’ read skinflint guvnors using underspecced,gutless,uncomfortable wagons to do more work than they were designed for.The role has’nt been fulfilled in recent years because Brit guvnors were finally dragged kicking and screaming into the real civilised world starting with trucks like the F88,DAF 2800 and F10/12. :unamused:

Yes, “skinflint guvnors” there were. And it’s still the same today with regards to the intensity of operations. With road haulage margins being so slim you need to get maximum utilisation out of your vehicles. At the company I work for we currently have a double-shifted trunking vehicle working 7 days weekly covering 5,650 miles every 7 days. The modern terminology is ‘sweating the assets’. :open_mouth:

That’s nothing new I was doing 400-500 mile trunks per shift before speed limiters but there’s no way that you could get that type of productivety with the average speeds provided by the type of power outputs that most British guvnors were speccing during the 1970’s. :bulb:

It was the likes of you Carryfast that carved the job up.Starting the rate cutting by doing your 400-500 mile sprints as you call them.The demise of a good paying sector of the British haulier is down to drivers like yourself not the Guvnors :unamused: .
Cheers Dave.

If you think that was fast you should have seen how quick some of the other firms like Independent Express were going using even faster wagons. :open_mouth: :laughing:

I never said it was fast.I said you were carving the job up :exclamation: :unamused: .

Those were the runs I was given and those were the mileages and running times required and if I had’nt have done those runs as required there would’nt have been any ‘job’ because I’d have been down the jobcentre looking for another one.I never said it was ‘fast’ either but it was fast enough to make the job viable which was the difference between a Gardner powered Brit heap and a DAF 2800. :bulb:

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ramone:

Carryfast:

Dave the Renegade:

Carryfast:

gingerfold:

Carryfast:

Saviem:
Hello all, simple fact, UK useage was far more intense in terms of utilisation, ton miles, and speed, than the rest of Europe. The Swedes could not believe what we did with the little F86, but it was perfect for 32ton operation, 192hp, legal 22ton payload, so manouverable it was untrue and economic, a gaffers and drivers motor all in one!! Can anyone suggest another that has fulfilled that role since?? Cheerio.

For ‘intense’ read skinflint guvnors using underspecced,gutless,uncomfortable wagons to do more work than they were designed for.The role has’nt been fulfilled in recent years because Brit guvnors were finally dragged kicking and screaming into the real civilised world starting with trucks like the F88,DAF 2800 and F10/12. :unamused:

Yes, “skinflint guvnors” there were. And it’s still the same today with regards to the intensity of operations. With road haulage margins being so slim you need to get maximum utilisation out of your vehicles. At the company I work for we currently have a double-shifted trunking vehicle working 7 days weekly covering 5,650 miles every 7 days. The modern terminology is ‘sweating the assets’. :open_mouth:

That’s nothing new I was doing 400-500 mile trunks per shift before speed limiters but there’s no way that you could get that type of productivety with the average speeds provided by the type of power outputs that most British guvnors were speccing during the 1970’s. :bulb:

It was the likes of you Carryfast that carved the job up.Starting the rate cutting by doing your 400-500 mile sprints as you call them.The demise of a good paying sector of the British haulier is down to drivers like yourself not the Guvnors :unamused: .
Cheers Dave.

If you think that was fast you should have seen how quick some of the other firms like Independent Express were going using even faster wagons. :open_mouth: :laughing:

Obviously you wouldnt have been driving a TM at this point CF as Independent Express couldnt have been faster!!!

Only if I’d have had an 8V92 powered one. :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing:

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It’s nothing new I was doing 400-500 mile trunks per shift before speed limiters but there’s no way that you could get that type of productivety with the average speeds provided by the type of power outputs that most British guvnors were speccing during the 1970’s. :bulb:
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It was the likes of you Carryfast that carved the job up.Starting the rate cutting by doing your 400-500 mile sprints as you call them.The demise of a good paying sector of the British haulier is down to drivers like yourself not the Guvnors :unamused: .
Cheers Dave.
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If you think that was fast you should have seen how quick some of the other firms like Independent Express were going using even faster wagons. :open_mouth: :laughing:
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I never said it was fast.I said you were carving the job up :exclamation: :unamused: .
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Those were the runs I was given and those were the mileages and running times required and if I had’nt have done those runs as required there would’nt have been any ‘job’ because I’d have been down the jobcentre looking for another one.I never said it was ‘fast’ either but it was fast enough to make the job viable which was the difference between a Gardner powered Brit heap and a DAF 2800. :bulb:
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With your knowledge of transport,both technical and operational.Why didn’t you set up in business as a haulier Carryfast :question: .

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Bewick:
As you seem to gravitate from around Heathrow “carryfast” you want to be careful you dont get loaded into one of those cargo containers and shipped abroad! Lets see,somwhere nice and remote like Tristan da Cuna or Libya or Syria now that would give the Arabs something to really get “■■■■■■■ about if you turned up as an illeagal alien( in full arab regalia)!! Bewick.PS still awaiting your mileage estimate which I requested earlier.

Zb that that’s a job for international rescue or the SAS and I’d just probably get called a racist for refusing to wear the Arab gear. :open_mouth: :laughing:

That mileage estimate let’s just say obviously not as much as to Killington Lake and back from West London and double Bristol or Leicester :question: . :bulb: :wink: :laughing: But what’s the relevance unless you’re sying that a 180 Gardner powered Atki,or even an F88,could have done as many miles in a shift as that DAF :question: . :open_mouth: :laughing:

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Carryfast:

Bewick:
As you seem to gravitate from around Heathrow “carryfast” you want to be careful you dont get loaded into one of those cargo containers and shipped abroad! Lets see,somwhere nice and remote like Tristan da Cuna or Libya or Syria now that would give the Arabs something to really get “■■■■■■■ about if you turned up as an illeagal alien( in full arab regalia)!! Bewick.PS still awaiting your mileage estimate which I requested earlier.

Zb that that’s a job for international rescue or the SAS and I’d just probably get called a racist for refusing to wear the Arab gear. :open_mouth: :laughing:

That mileage estimate let’s just say obviously not as much as to Killington Lake and back from West London and double Bristol or Leicester :question: . :bulb: :wink: :laughing: But what’s the relevance unless you’re sying that a 180 Gardner powered Atki,or even an F88,could have done as many miles in a shift as that DAF :question: . :open_mouth: :laughing:

Well lets just say that our 8LXBs were doing the round trip I’ve mentioned ,quite comfortably,and If I’d known that you had got as far “oop north” as Killington I would have laid in wait with a couple of my lads then given you a “baptism” in the lake!! You’d never have smelled as sweet after a bath in water as clean as that “carryfast” You could have borrowed our lifebuoy soap as well!! Bewick.

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Dave the Renegade:
It’s nothing new I was doing 400-500 mile trunks per shift before speed limiters but there’s no way that you could get that type of productivety with the average speeds provided by the type of power outputs that most British guvnors were speccing during the 1970’s. :bulb:

It was the likes of you Carryfast that carved the job up.Starting the rate cutting by doing your 400-500 mile sprints as you call them.The demise of a good paying sector of the British haulier is down to drivers like yourself not the Guvnors :unamused: .
Cheers Dave.
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If you think that was fast you should have seen how quick some of the other firms like Independent Express were going using even faster wagons. :open_mouth: :laughing:
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I never said it was fast.I said you were carving the job up :exclamation: :unamused: .
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Those were the runs I was given and those were the mileages and running times required and if I had’nt have done those runs as required there would’nt have been any ‘job’ because I’d have been down the jobcentre looking for another one.I never said it was ‘fast’ either but it was fast enough to make the job viable which was the difference between a Gardner powered Brit heap and a DAF 2800. :bulb:
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With your knowledge of transport,both technical and operational.Why didn’t you set up in business as a haulier Carryfast :question: .
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Nearly did but got stopped by start up capital.

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Carryfast:

Dave the Renegade:
It’s nothing new I was doing 400-500 mile trunks per shift before speed limiters but there’s no way that you could get that type of productivety with the average speeds provided by the type of power outputs that most British guvnors were speccing during the 1970’s. :bulb:

It was the likes of you Carryfast that carved the job up.Starting the rate cutting by doing your 400-500 mile sprints as you call them.The demise of a good paying sector of the British haulier is down to drivers like yourself not the Guvnors :unamused: .
Cheers Dave.

If you think that was fast you should have seen how quick some of the other firms like Independent Express were going using even faster wagons. :open_mouth: :laughing:
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I never said it was fast.I said you were carving the job up :exclamation: :unamused: .
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Those were the runs I was given and those were the mileages and running times required and if I had’nt have done those runs as required there would’nt have been any ‘job’ because I’d have been down the jobcentre looking for another one.I never said it was ‘fast’ either but it was fast enough to make the job viable which was the difference between a Gardner powered Brit heap and a DAF 2800. :bulb:
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With your knowledge of transport,both technical and operational.Why didn’t you set up in business as a haulier Carryfast :question: .
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Nearly did but got stopped by start up capital.
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I’m sure the Industry had been holding it’s breath until it got the good news though!!As well as the capital requirement you are also missing out the need to be “of good repute” so surely this would have knackered your application as well “carryfast”

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Hello all, despite todays welcome rain we are still irrigating potatoes, thats why I could not make the "trunk run " to Gaydon today to see if I could extract a deposit from CF for his dream motor!! (remember one and all, you will all get an introductory commission)!!! You know the worst thing that ever happened to road haulage in UK was operator licensing. Why, because it let in every idiot who thought that a job potentialy paying £100000per year really did pay that!! They just forgot that there were costs like, depreciation, maintenance, finance, establishment costs, DRIVERS WAGES, tax, Profit, provision against unusual costs, their own wages National Insurance, Tyres, I COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON. Nett result, the job looses £ 20000 per year!! they employ poor quality drivers who do not know what they are worth, and drop into a lawless,and fringe way of working, and the operator himself, well he talks big, runs a diesel Mercedes, owes money everywhere and eventually goes under, leaving the market place thinking that the stupid rates he quoted are the real rate for the job!! OH and due to the insane business laws in this country he can start again next week in another £100 name, and the insane cycle starts all over again!!! l In reality I would view 70% of UK Hire and Reward Operators as less than “Professional” For those of you that do not know these facts, this is why “good operators” are selling up every day, and you are left with “merdre” to work for. You may joke about my missives as “War and peace” but I loved this industry, from a young lad, in new Bib and Brace overalls, hob nail boots, a Foden S20 cab 4wheeler, into Paris, and then Gourgenon (30 degree celcius) 1965, (and obtaining a love of the way the French did things, professional, good business planning, and most important with ethics) to now, a long away from the industry, and seeing what it has become I am sad. In my own businesses I would not work for nil profit, I would always pay “top dollar” for the best men, and be ruthless in getting rid of the rubbish, lest they contaminate the good!! SO to answer CF “skinflint operators” thats why you got them!! Dennis, I often saw your lorries and wondered who the hell are “Bewick”■■ thinking that it was some large group of companies!! (so you, and your drivers projected a very professional image). Well intense operations, the best I can offer , Blue Chip food sector, 48 month contract, 175000 miles per annum, I put ERF E series 14litre 320, and one 10litre. Never over budget, never broke down, and made their residual guarantee with no penalties. (and my client, very image concious, and his drivers loved them) Now thats British quality!! Cheerio, going to bed, irrigating tommorow, (and concreting)

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Bewick:

Carryfast:

Bewick:
As you seem to gravitate from around Heathrow “carryfast” you want to be careful you dont get loaded into one of those cargo containers and shipped abroad! Lets see,somwhere nice and remote like Tristan da Cuna or Libya or Syria now that would give the Arabs something to really get “■■■■■■■ about if you turned up as an illeagal alien( in full arab regalia)!! Bewick.PS still awaiting your mileage estimate which I requested earlier.

Zb that that’s a job for international rescue or the SAS and I’d just probably get called a racist for refusing to wear the Arab gear. :open_mouth: :laughing:

That mileage estimate let’s just say obviously not as much as to Killington Lake and back from West London and double Bristol or Leicester :question: . :bulb: :wink: :laughing: But what’s the relevance unless you’re sying that a 180 Gardner powered Atki,or even an F88,could have done as many miles in a shift as that DAF :question: . :open_mouth: :laughing:

Well lets just say that our 8LXBs were doing the round trip I’ve mentioned ,quite comfortably

:open_mouth: Blimey Bewick if the things were that quick why did you bother buying those nasty thirsty 450 hp Scanias when you could have just bolted a turbocharger onto those Gardners :question:. :laughing: :laughing:

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Bewick:

Carryfast:

Dave the Renegade:
It’s nothing new I was doing 400-500 mile trunks per shift before speed limiters but there’s no way that you could get that type of productivety with the average speeds provided by the type of power outputs that most British guvnors were speccing during the 1970’s. :bulb:

It was the likes of you Carryfast that carved the job up.Starting the rate cutting by doing your 400-500 mile sprints as you call them.The demise of a good paying sector of the British haulier is down to drivers like yourself not the Guvnors :unamused: .
Cheers Dave.

If you think that was fast you should have seen how quick some of the other firms like Independent Express were going using even faster wagons. :open_mouth: :laughing:

I never said it was fast.I said you were carving the job up :exclamation: :unamused: .
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Those were the runs I was given and those were the mileages and running times required and if I had’nt have done those runs as required there would’nt have been any ‘job’ because I’d have been down the jobcentre looking for another one.I never said it was ‘fast’ either but it was fast enough to make the job viable which was the difference between a Gardner powered Brit heap and a DAF 2800. :bulb:
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With your knowledge of transport,both technical and operational.Why didn’t you set up in business as a haulier Carryfast :question: .
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Nearly did but got stopped by start up capital.
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I’m sure the Industry had been holding it’s breath until it got the good news though!!As well as the capital requirement you are also missing out the need to be “of good repute” so surely this would have knackered your application as well “carryfast”
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If I ever decide to start up in future Bewick I’m sure that you won’t mind providing a reference to the TC to help my application go through. :laughing:

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Oh B"“”“”", Independent Parcel Express, my oh my, I repossesed my kit from them, mainly Scania, I remember a 4wheeler, based at their (rented) Four Ashes operation,“fair wear and tear” they claimed, how do you bend a Scania bumper so the offside is 18inches in front of the vehicle?? CF you have some very good “heroes” I am away to bed, you are lucky you never worked for me,( a long walk on a very short plank)!! Bon Nuit.

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Saviem:
Hello all, despite todays welcome rain we are still irrigating potatoes, thats why I could not make the "trunk run " to Gaydon today to see if I could extract a deposit from CF for his dream motor!! (remember one and all, you will all get an introductory commission)!!! You know the worst thing that ever happened to road haulage in UK was operator licensing. Why, because it let in every idiot who thought that a job potentialy paying £100000per year really did pay that!! They just forgot that there were costs like, depreciation, maintenance, finance, establishment costs, DRIVERS WAGES, tax, Profit, provision against unusual costs, their own wages National Insurance, Tyres, I COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON. Nett result, the job looses £ 20000 per year!! they employ poor quality drivers who do not know what they are worth, and drop into a lawless,and fringe way of working, and the operator himself, well he talks big, runs a diesel Mercedes, owes money everywhere and eventually goes under, leaving the market place thinking that the stupid rates he quoted are the real rate for the job!! OH and due to the insane business laws in this country he can start again next week in another £100 name, and the insane cycle starts all over again!!! l In reality I would view 70% of UK Hire and Reward Operators as less than “Professional” For those of you that do not know these facts, this is why “good operators” are selling up every day, and you are left with “merdre” to work for. You may joke about my missives as “War and peace” but I loved this industry, from a young lad, in new Bib and Brace overalls, hob nail boots, a Foden S20 cab 4wheeler, into Paris, and then Gourgenon (30 degree celcius) 1965, (and obtaining a love of the way the French did things, professional, good business planning, and most important with ethics) to now, a long away from the industry, and seeing what it has become I am sad. In my own businesses I would not work for nil profit, I would always pay “top dollar” for the best men, and be ruthless in getting rid of the rubbish, lest they contaminate the good!! SO to answer CF “skinflint operators” thats why you got them!! Dennis, I often saw your lorries and wondered who the hell are “Bewick”■■ thinking that it was some large group of companies!! (so you, and your drivers projected a very professional image). Well intense operations, the best I can offer , Blue Chip food sector, 48 month contract, 175000 miles per annum, I put ERF E series 14litre 320, and one 10litre. Never over budget, never broke down, and made their residual guarantee with no penalties. (and my client, very image concious, and his drivers loved them) Now thats British quality!! Cheerio, going to bed, irrigating tommorow, (and concreting)

If I’d have been mad enough to have offered you 60 K :open_mouth: for that yank wagon it would have proved that I’ve got no business sense whatsoever. :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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Saviem:
Oh B"“”“”", Independent Parcel Express, my oh my, I repossesed my kit from them, mainly Scania, I remember a 4wheeler, based at their (rented) Four Ashes operation,“fair wear and tear” they claimed, how do you bend a Scania bumper so the offside is 18inches in front of the vehicle?? CF you have some very good “heroes” I am away to bed, you are lucky you never worked for me,( a long walk on a very short plank)!! Bon Nuit.

Scanias :open_mouth: .I was talking about those MAN’s they were running.But they were’nt my heroes they were just competitors at the time and I seemed to do a good enough job for my guvnors for the firm to obviously be around a lot longer than they were.

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‘Sweating the Assets’ Well that was a nice little diversion!!! :wink:

Milnthorpe to Hockliffe and return is 430 miles. But I’m sure that you already knew that Bewick as you would have costed the job accurately,

I agree with Saviem, the introduction of Operator Licensing has plenty to answer for. The old system of ‘A’, ‘B’ & ‘C’ licences wasn’t perfect by any means but it could have been improved without abandoning its concept altogether.

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Carryfast:

Bewick:

Carryfast:

Dave the Renegade:
It’s nothing new I was doing 400-500 mile trunks per shift before speed limiters but there’s no way that you could get that type of productivety with the average speeds provided by the type of power outputs that most British guvnors were speccing during the 1970’s. :bulb:

It was the likes of you Carryfast that carved the job up.Starting the rate cutting by doing your 400-500 mile sprints as you call them.The demise of a good paying sector of the British haulier is down to drivers like yourself not the Guvnors :unamused: .
Cheers Dave.

If you think that was fast you should have seen how quick some of the other firms like Independent Express were going using even faster wagons. :open_mouth: :laughing:

I never said it was fast.I said you were carving the job up :exclamation: :unamused: .

Those were the runs I was given and those were the mileages and running times required and if I had’nt have done those runs as required there would’nt have been any ‘job’ because I’d have been down the jobcentre looking for another one.I never said it was ‘fast’ either but it was fast enough to make the job viable which was the difference between a Gardner powered Brit heap and a DAF 2800. :bulb:
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With your knowledge of transport,both technical and operational.Why didn’t you set up in business as a haulier Carryfast :question: .
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Nearly did but got stopped by start up capital.
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I’m sure the Industry had been holding it’s breath until it got the good news though!!As well as the capital requirement you are also missing out the need to be “of good repute” so surely this would have knackered your application as well “carryfast”
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If I ever decide to start up in future Bewick I’m sure that you won’t mind providing a reference to the TC to help my application go through. :laughing:
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I’ve never purjured my-self on the odd occaision I’ve been somewhere “official” so there’s no way I would stand up and spout a pack of lies on your be-half CF!!!Bewick.

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Its getting good again!!!

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Bewick:

Carryfast:

Bewick:

Carryfast:

Dave the Renegade:
It’s nothing new I was doing 400-500 mile trunks per shift before speed limiters but there’s no way that you could get that type of productivety with the average speeds provided by the type of power outputs that most British guvnors were speccing during the 1970’s. :bulb:

It was the likes of you Carryfast that carved the job up.Starting the rate cutting by doing your 400-500 mile sprints as you call them.The demise of a good paying sector of the British haulier is down to drivers like yourself not the Guvnors :unamused: .
Cheers Dave.

If you think that was fast you should have seen how quick some of the other firms like Independent Express were going using even faster wagons. :open_mouth: :laughing:

I never said it was fast.I said you were carving the job up :exclamation: :unamused: .

Those were the runs I was given and those were the mileages and running times required and if I had’nt have done those runs as required there would’nt have been any ‘job’ because I’d have been down the jobcentre looking for another one.I never said it was ‘fast’ either but it was fast enough to make the job viable which was the difference between a Gardner powered Brit heap and a DAF 2800. :bulb:

With your knowledge of transport,both technical and operational.Why didn’t you set up in business as a haulier Carryfast :question: .
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Nearly did but got stopped by start up capital.
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I’m sure the Industry had been holding it’s breath until it got the good news though!!As well as the capital requirement you are also missing out the need to be “of good repute” so surely this would have knackered your application as well “carryfast”
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If I ever decide to start up in future Bewick I’m sure that you won’t mind providing a reference to the TC to help my application go through. :laughing:
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I’ve never purjured my-self on the odd occaision I’ve been somewhere “official” so there’s no way I would stand up and spout a pack of lies on your be-half CF!!!Bewick.
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What sector of the road haulage industry do you intend setting up in Carryfast :question:
Cheers Dave.

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Dave the Renegade:

Bewick:

Carryfast:

Bewick:

Carryfast:

Dave the Renegade:
It’s nothing new I was doing 400-500 mile trunks per shift before speed limiters but there’s no way that you could get that type of productivety with the average speeds provided by the type of power outputs that most British guvnors were speccing during the 1970’s. :bulb:

It was the likes of you Carryfast that carved the job up.Starting the rate cutting by doing your 400-500 mile sprints as you call them.The demise of a good paying sector of the British haulier is down to drivers like yourself not the Guvnors :unamused: .
Cheers Dave.

If you think that was fast you should have seen how quick some of the other firms like Independent Express were going using even faster wagons. :open_mouth: :laughing:

I never said it was fast.I said you were carving the job up :exclamation: :unamused: .

Those were the runs I was given and those were the mileages and running times required and if I had’nt have done those runs as required there would’nt have been any ‘job’ because I’d have been down the jobcentre looking for another one.I never said it was ‘fast’ either but it was fast enough to make the job viable which was the difference between a Gardner powered Brit heap and a DAF 2800. :bulb:

With your knowledge of transport,both technical and operational.Why didn’t you set up in business as a haulier Carryfast :question: .

Nearly did but got stopped by start up capital.
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I’m sure the Industry had been holding it’s breath until it got the good news though!!As well as the capital requirement you are also missing out the need to be “of good repute” so surely this would have knackered your application as well “carryfast”
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If I ever decide to start up in future Bewick I’m sure that you won’t mind providing a reference to the TC to help my application go through. :laughing:
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I’ve never purjured my-self on the odd occaision I’ve been somewhere “official” so there’s no way I would stand up and spout a pack of lies on your be-half CF!!!Bewick.
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What sector of the road haulage industry do you intend setting up in Carryfast :question:
Cheers Dave.
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A Freelance porter at Heathrow maybe? or a 'barra boy at Nine Elms? Better still a Sherpa in the Himalayas!! Bewick.

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Dave the Renegade:

Bewick:

Carryfast:

Bewick:

Carryfast:

Dave the Renegade:
It’s nothing new I was doing 400-500 mile trunks per shift before speed limiters but there’s no way that you could get that type of productivety with the average speeds provided by the type of power outputs that most British guvnors were speccing during the 1970’s. :bulb:

It was the likes of you Carryfast that carved the job up.Starting the rate cutting by doing your 400-500 mile sprints as you call them.The demise of a good paying sector of the British haulier is down to drivers like yourself not the Guvnors :unamused: .
Cheers Dave.

If you think that was fast you should have seen how quick some of the other firms like Independent Express were going using even faster wagons. :open_mouth: :laughing:

I never said it was fast.I said you were carving the job up :exclamation: :unamused: .

Those were the runs I was given and those were the mileages and running times required and if I had’nt have done those runs as required there would’nt have been any ‘job’ because I’d have been down the jobcentre looking for another one.I never said it was ‘fast’ either but it was fast enough to make the job viable which was the difference between a Gardner powered Brit heap and a DAF 2800. :bulb:

With your knowledge of transport,both technical and operational.Why didn’t you set up in business as a haulier Carryfast :question: .

Nearly did but got stopped by start up capital.
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I’m sure the Industry had been holding it’s breath until it got the good news though!!As well as the capital requirement you are also missing out the need to be “of good repute” so surely this would have knackered your application as well “carryfast”
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If I ever decide to start up in future Bewick I’m sure that you won’t mind providing a reference to the TC to help my application go through. :laughing:
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I’ve never purjured my-self on the odd occaision I’ve been somewhere “official” so there’s no way I would stand up and spout a pack of lies on your be-half CF!!!Bewick.
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What sector of the road haulage industry do you intend setting up in Carryfast :question:
Cheers Dave.
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This one. :wink: :smiley:

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