UKIP and DCPC

BillyHunt:

Winseer:
Eh?

Have I been banned from site here or something?

I can’t even visit the webpage from my normal browser… I thought the site was down, but it seems accessible OK via the backdoor still, so it must be me?!

Moderator input here appreciated.

Have my previous post (above) seems to be missing as well.

Same thing has happened to me, no access to site through broadband at home. Everything else is ok, site works fine everywhere else. I’ve been told to change my IP address! Whatever that is.
Keith, just do the dcpc, you’ll feel a lot better after it, you know youre going to do it soon.

I backdoored in via this page: (You copy and past the TNUK web address into the box at top)

freeproxyserver.net/

It makes whatever website you are visiting think you are on a different IP address.
It bugs me though why my home IP is apparently getting DNS from the TNUK website though - it’s as if I’m banned, hence the previous comment…
I believe some ISPs are doing something similar to prevent the general public accessing free music download sites as well. Can’t say I’m in favour of any kind of web censorship.

Hmm emoticons don’t work when using this thingy…

switchlogic:
I think I’ve found out where Happy Keith’s post are created plainenglish.co.uk/gobbledyg … rator.html

Yeah, that’s on-thread: Not :unamused:

Saw an article today stating ‘…The imposition on NHS staff … from Brussels…’ and how it was perceived by senior surgeons & Doctors that the UK NHS is becoming an ineffective nightmare due to inappropriate & meddling intrusion from EU federalists :frowning:

It appears that UKIP will have plenty to keep them occupied in ridding Brussel’s nauseating intrusion throughout too many key and quite likely all UK industries :sunglasses:

Are we drivers simply seeing the transport industry being lumbered with the useless DCPC to ponce with - whilst missing sight that others have their variations of unwanted, undemocratic & strangulating clap-trap too :question:

Those blighters are sinking us faster & better than any terrorist could wish :open_mouth:

Perhaps those Yellow/Red/Green/Blue triballists or those reckoning UKIP to be a one-trick pony should take an embarrased note of this abusive oppression :wink:

Happy Keith:

switchlogic:
I think I’ve found out where Happy Keith’s post are created plainenglish.co.uk/gobbledyg … rator.html

Yeah, that’s on-thread: Not :unamused:

The famous Happy Keith sense of humour alive and well I see.

You know what, I’d like to debate you on things more often, but half the time I cant make head nor tail of what you are trying to say. You’re clearly intelligent, but you hide it well behind a stream of guff. Just my two €s worth.

Happy Keith:
Saw an article today stating ‘…The imposition on NHS staff … from Brussels…’ and how it was perceived by senior surgeons & Doctors that the UK NHS is becoming an ineffective nightmare due to inappropriate & meddling intrusion from EU federalists :frowning:

The vast majority of NHS staff are overpaid, all the consultants are. The whole infrastructure (cleaning, buildings etc) is subbed out to within an inch of a profit (at point of service). There appears to be a concensus that the NHS is not working, this is mainly propogated by people who want the whole lot privatised. And also helped by people working within it who want the whole lot privatised, the same people who will run it when its privatised.
I don’t see a comparison with the transport sector, which is private. Well, not yet anyway !!! (with regards to Brussells).

Mike-C:
‘…The vast majority of NHS staff are overpaid … I don’t see a comparison with the transport sector, which is private … with regards to Brussels…’

My close friend is NHS and yet gets rostered for a private subby in an NHS hospital.

They question the cynical manipulation & exploitation of systemic weakness by the privateers as very ably supported by EU diktats, but is effectively powerless in doing anything: Including telling me detail about it in fear of ‘whistle-blowing’ & losing their job.

These contexts (with the quote from yesterday’s paper) sufficiently suggest that no favours are being done to “Our NHS” from The Federation, which I shall not begin to doubt

Or ought we only view our own patch for ease of short-term conscience? :wink:

So… One of my local MPs Mark Reckless has decided to defect to UKIP… :open_mouth:

Well, he’s got a 10,000 majority, so winning back his seat shouldn’t prove to be too hard.
I don’t think there’s a local UKIP candidate in place to “have their nose put out of joint” by this move either.

I don’t think Cameron is going to stop the rot - except by calling an early referendum OR standing down as PM…

Slackbladder:
Recently their MEPs have voted against safer trucks on the road as well as voting against tighter regulation of ivory movements.

And I bet you it was me that did it!
remember when barry ■■■■■■ and his big cheef fat fill and co. where running the protest yer.
we all rote letter to our MPs
I on the other hand decided to right one to one of my MEPs who happens to be a UKIP
got a phone call back from them asking the ins and outs of this money making scam so I told them in full
she said we will be looking into it
which they did!
Any road to cut a long story short; thanks to all the key board wariers for not turning up
thankyou baz for spitting your dummy out at the last herdal and banning me from your site coz your where bullied into it by that big and hard all mighty gobshyte fat fill
Still weight to hear from your big men down the pub fill who where going to fill my boots

Winseer:
So… One of my local MPs Mark Reckless has decided to defect to UKIP… :open_mouth:

Well, he’s got a 10,000 majority, so winning back his seat shouldn’t prove to be too hard.
I don’t think there’s a local UKIP candidate in place to “have their nose put out of joint” by this move either.

I don’t think Cameron is going to stop the rot - except by calling an early referendum OR standing down as PM…

These things always make me wonder, do you vote for the person or do you vote for the party? How many of that 10k majority will vote for him as he’s a nice bloke as opposed to those who want to remain voting for the Tories. I live in the north east and it’s true what they say here, you could put a red rosette on a monkey & they’d vote them in here.
It’s a sign that people now go more for the personality than the politics. Why do people think that getting rid of Cameron will mean a change of direction by the Tories? And who would replace him?

Billy, i reckon the tory party is doomed, and high time too its gone on long enough, they’ve dumped on their core supporters, naturally patriotic hard working people, and formed themselves into the 21st century SDP party.

The sooner the party implodes the better, at the moment the odds are favourite that Boris, another committed europhile windbag, would replace Cameron, but i wouldn’t be surprised once they find Boris is just more of the same and doesn’t deny UKIP progress one bit, if they fast tracked the very capable Sajid Javid to do an Obama swerve.

If UKIP do nothing other than help hasten the destruction of the present tory party, and ensure we leave the eu then they will have done this country a great service.

Please Lord, labour might even follow suit, for as an opposition the current labour party is nothing short of useless (as a government slightly worse than the useless cameron clique), and the headlines from their conference were the massively important mansion tax, only of interest to those who live sleep and breath the politics of envy, destroying and stealing from the wealth creators has never been good for working people, but then labour arn’t interested in the working man any more, wouldn’t know one if they met him.

We need real parties with conviction passion and division again, three identikit parties is not good for our country, not one of them currently has the cojones to tell the eu what to do.

BillyHunt:

Winseer:
So… One of my local MPs Mark Reckless has decided to defect to UKIP… :open_mouth:

Well, he’s got a 10,000 majority, so winning back his seat shouldn’t prove to be too hard.
I don’t think there’s a local UKIP candidate in place to “have their nose put out of joint” by this move either.

I don’t think Cameron is going to stop the rot - except by calling an early referendum OR standing down as PM…

These things always make me wonder, do you vote for the person or do you vote for the party? How many of that 10k majority will vote for him as he’s a nice bloke as opposed to those who want to remain voting for the Tories. I live in the north east and it’s true what they say here, you could put a red rosette on a monkey & they’d vote them in here.
It’s a sign that people now go more for the personality than the politics. Why do people think that getting rid of Cameron will mean a change of direction by the Tories? And who would replace him?

The Conservatives are finished, here’s what happens next.(from wiki)

“The demise of the Progressive Conservatives and rise of Reform[edit]
In 1993, the Progressive Conservatives went from majority government to holding only two of 295 seats in the Canadian House of Commons, this was the first time they had done worse than third place in the House, and only the second time they had placed worse than second (the other time being in the 1921 election): they in fact placed fifth and last in terms of parties represented in the commons behind the Liberals, the Reform Party of Canada, the Bloc Québécois and the New Democratic Party.”

Just change the names to Conservatives in the UK and UKIP.

The Tories couldn’t win a majority at the last election and have no chance of doing any better next time, change is coming and not before time.

All very illuminating as usual but they are your opinions, and you know what they say about opinions. It doesn’t answer my question as to who do you vote for, the person or the party. As I see it these two Tory defectors are not particularly interested in ukip as much as they are interested in remaining an MP. They are in areas where ukip did well in the euro elections and have now wet themselves to the extent they are willing to jump ship.

BillyHunt:
It doesn’t answer my question as to who do you vote for, the person or the party.

I vote for the party that has the policies that I want and the person most likely to deliver those policies.

turbot:

BillyHunt:
It doesn’t answer my question as to who do you vote for, the person or the party.

I vote for the party that has the policies that I want and the person most likely to deliver those policies.

Ok good, but that’s likely to be two different parties unless you vote labour or Tory. I would guess from the majority that frequent this forum they would be voting ukip, but those same people would agree that they won’t get anywhere near enough seats to do anything like what they promised this week, so where does that leave you?
I suppose in the case of ukip you have to vote for the party given the fact that their prospective MPs are unknown to anyone but party members.

BillyHunt:

turbot:

BillyHunt:
It doesn’t answer my question as to who do you vote for, the person or the party.

I vote for the party that has the policies that I want and the person most likely to deliver those policies.

Ok good, but that’s likely to be two different parties unless you vote labour or Tory, who’ll promise anything to get your vote without the slightest intention of delivering any of it.

FTFY ^^^^

As to who do i vote for, well obviously the party (and hopefully the person) who speaks what i feel is right and who i feel can be trusted to tell the truth as they see it warts and all, that eliminates the lib lab con who have proved themselves untrustworthy and incompetent if we are kind to them, some absolute liars among them.

Juddian:

BillyHunt:

turbot:

BillyHunt:
It doesn’t answer my question as to who do you vote for, the person or the party.

I vote for the party that has the policies that I want and the person most likely to deliver those policies.

Ok good, but that’s likely to be two different parties unless you vote labour or Tory

FTFY ^^^^

As to who do i vote for, well obviously the party (and hopefully the person) who speaks what i feel is right and who i feel can be trusted to tell the truth as they see it warts and all, that eliminates the lib lab con who have proved themselves untrustworthy and incompetent if we are kind to them, some absolute liars among them.

They’re politicians, lying is what they do. If you think ukip are/will be any different you’re deluded, the only reason they haven’t so far is because they’ve not been given the chance to.
As a side issue I would prefer it if you didn’t “fix” anything for me. Feel free to put your own comments in your own replies.

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They’re politicians, lying is what they do. If you think ukip are/will be any different you’re deluded, the only reason they haven’t so far is because they’ve not been given the chance to.
As a side issue I would prefer it if you didn’t “fix” anything for me. Feel free to put your own comments in your own replies.
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well there is no other choice but to give someone new a try so you have to trust them to deliver on what they promise, if they tackle the policitcal correct nonsense and put us born and bread people first in our own country then it gets my vote
the other partys have had there chance and time and time again they do nothing about it all and it gets worse

it can not carry on when it starts to hit the pockets of the middle class in this country then you will see the difference and already its happening as there kids can not longer find a good job and there swamped with polish workers and the like

so the more that come here and take jobs the less jobs for our own kids it will not be to long before managers jobs will be taken over by polish or any other sector that might feel quite safe at the moment but its the future that looks so bleak

we all know all we will get with labour or tories is no change so lets hope people fancy giving a real party who wants to try to change things around a chance

You wanted policy here’s one.

Scroll down to where they promise to scrap the DCPC…
ukip.org/jill_seymour_our_si … _fast_lane

Well, that revived this thread ok eh? :smiley:

The Scottish referendum has woken people up again as to what their so-called “wasted vote” can do.
Whilst Tories bang on about “Hey, voting YES in Scotland WAS a wasted vote - because they lost didn’t they?”

…the rest of us are thinking "F… me! 45% - so close! - I think we’re going to have to sign up with these nationalist parties, and try again to go that extra mile next time - and don’t be put off by the last-minute bull from the three main parties!

Right now, darn sarth where UKIP are growing in popularity, people are now wide awake to the idea that voting UKIP isn’t a wasted vote at all - it’s the best chance of getting rid of Cameron!

The Tory argument of “A vote for UKIP is a vote for Milliband” is flawed on two accounts:-

(1) It assumes that Milliband is a hated figure - or at least hated more than Cameron… Is he? :laughing:
(2) It assumes that with an election result next year of 1st Tory 2nd Labour 3rd UKIP - The Tories in their eagerness to deny UKIP any power in Coalition - will approach LABOUR to do a coalition instead! Imagine that… Cameron totally bulls away any credibility by doing the unthinkable with Labour! He’d do it too… “Another five years as PM” is the prize up for grabs for doing this Faustian deal.

Here’s the biggest flaw that no one has thought of:

Milliband, like him or not, is an experienced politician. Much more so than Cameron. I can see Milliband saying NO to a coalition with Cameron - because “Deputy Prime Minister” is a lickcock position that Milliband knows full well will condemn him to a life of mediocrity as it has done to Cleggy. Saying “NO” thus, would force a second general election in 2015, and the fact that Cameron tried to do a deal with Labour - will get all those people who believed the bull about “A vote for UKIP is a vote for Milliband” - to switch their vote to UKIP on that second ballet in 2015…

As they say in Scotland…

Stitch that Jimmy!

:smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp:

Juddian:
You wanted policy here’s one.

Scroll down to where they promise to scrap the DCPC…
ukip.org/jill_seymour_our_si … _fast_lane

That the woman I spoke to on the phone that said she was going to do a wright up on it