turbot:
Take a holiday here
dailymail.co.uk/news/article … riest.html
and get a real taste of multicultural harmony
Those people are problem everywhere. Before the Sowietunion and the Eastern Block collapsed, the communist governments spent billions on their education, social welfare, etc. Without any success. 
This sort of thread is what has inspired me to become a truck driver.
People are telling me “do you not think you’ll be over educated for the profession?” I tell them certainly not. Behind all the waffle and inertia that this thread demonstrates lingers substantial intellect and thoughtfulness. I am looking forward to some good discussions and moans with fellow drivers once I begin work in the near future 
It does amaze me though how quick we are to complain and moan about something and then how quick we are to submit. 
Are lorry drivers possibly the most intellectually underrated professionals among the work force?
BillyHunt:
‘… There are no “facts” in the article …’
That’ll be ‘black’ being argued as the new ‘white’ then 
BillyHunt:
‘… just … opinions … like the one I posted earlier that, surprise surprise, get decried as it’s not all for ukip, apparently a sin on the forum at the moment…’
Those of us having been adamantly denied consultation about the Common Market sinisterly morphing with increasing abuses upon us into the (Dis)United States of Europe since 1975 (when I was 15) have had 39 years of it: The entire interim has been a string of denial & smoke screen and ‘now is not the time’, etc 
You are barely into your first week since taking a mild yet overdue kicking and bleat far too much. Take it where it belongs, man.
NB; Why the continued disrespect with ‘…ukip…’ instead of the reasonably decent “UKIP”? Hoping the bad men will go away with one’s head buried in the sands of denial 
BillyHunt:
‘…So, are you going to attend the DCPC then? My guess is yes you will despite all the guff you churn out about it…’
We are both aware that the Tory bed-wetter, Cameron - allied with Milli-clegg Greenwoman, have all weakly sycophanted that I’ll be unemployable as a lorry driver if I fail to also ■■■■ the plums of their esteemed puppet-masters in Brussels/Strasbourg.
What do they care who has my job? British jobs for (Mumble) workers is their and the EU’s mantra, eh 
Enjoy the gloat - perhaps you could extend it to the unemployed of Bristol? Some of us remain lean & keen enough for UK-centic democracy since slimming down upon totally jacking Cadburys once-popular chocolate when it became a Polish product
However, I remain both unable & unwilling to thank either you or them for supporting the ambition to replace me with a poor communicating, federalised, DCPC-chipped & approved Euro-clone.
‘…Guff…’ your way outta that one
jonesy1985:
‘…Are lorry drivers possibly the most intellectually underrated professionals among the work force…?’
Dunno, but those cloning & DCPC-ing us know that our wings are currently clipped to keep us impotent and inert.
Westminster Puppetmasters of spunky UK wheel-monkeys must regularly breathe sighs of relief that as an entity, UK lorry-drivers have been successfully divided through liberalisation to be very effectively ruled-over (castrated?) not least by the European Federation.
I bet they don’t underrate us
Example agencies that they know about to perpetuate division - against which lorry drivers strive to thus remain ‘…underrated…’?
How about: Cyclists, pedestrians, cars, caravans, quaint village-dwellers; unionised vs anti unionists; agency employed vs. company full-employed; tippers vs rigids vs artics vs. tankers vs dollies, 40-46 on a SC vs. permanently flat-out, flash vs non-flash, pro-EU vs. stuff the EU. etc 
Happy Keith:
jonesy1985:
‘…Are lorry drivers possibly the most intellectually underrated professionals among the work force…?’Dunno, but those cloning & DCPC-ing us know that our wings are currently clipped to keep us impotent and inert.
Westminster Puppetmasters of spunky UK wheel-monkeys must regularly breathe sighs of relief that as an entity, UK lorry-drivers have been successfully divided through liberalisation to be very effectively ruled-over (castrated?) not least by the European Federation.
I bet they don’t underrate us
Example agencies that they know about to perpetuate division - against which lorry drivers strive to thus remain ‘…underrated…’?
How about: Cyclists, pedestrians, cars, caravans, quaint village-dwellers; unionised vs anti unionists; agency employed vs. company full-employed; tippers vs rigids vs artics vs. tankers vs dollies, 40-46 on a SC vs. permanently flat-out, flash vs non-flash, pro-EU vs. stuff the EU. etc
I am somewhat lost by your mantra…but I think I agree, if there is indeed a point you’re making…
BillyHunt:
‘…So, are you going to attend the DCPC then? My guess is yes you will despite all the guff you churn out about it…’
We are both aware that the Tory bed-wetter, Cameron - allied with Milli-clegg Greenwoman, have all weakly sycophanted that I’ll be unemployable as a lorry driver if I fail to also ■■■■ the plums of their esteemed puppet-masters in Brussels/Strasbourg.
What do they care who has my job? British jobs for (Mumble) workers is their and the EU’s mantra, eh
Enjoy the gloat - perhaps you could extend it to the unemployed of Bristol? Some of us remain lean & keen enough for UK-centic democracy since slimming down upon totally jacking Cadburys once-popular chocolate when it became a Polish product
However, I remain both unable & unwilling to thank either you or them for supporting the ambition to replace me with a poor communicating, federalised, DCPC-chipped & approved Euro-clone.
‘…Guff…’ your way outta that one
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So, that’s a yes then. You will be attending the DCPC paid for by your German masters, all the while ■■■■■■■■ about it. You’re bound to get a ton of sympathy for having to attend the free course while being paid, especially from those having to pay themselves & not earning during it. Enjoy those plums.
Yes definitely got the expected kicking from ukip in the last election but even you must have been troubled by the low turnout for them. Surely you must expected more than a quarter of the 36% that did bother. They’ll get capitals when they deserve capitals, even my lappy doesn’t think they’re worth it yet. Oddly if I type Tory, Cameron or Osborne it puts capitals on, but not milliband, clegg or farage. More shady dealings from our leaders no doubt.
jonesy1985:
This sort of thread is what has inspired me to become a truck driver.People are telling me “do you not think you’ll be over educated for the profession?” I tell them certainly not. Behind all the waffle and inertia that this thread demonstrates lingers substantial intellect and thoughtfulness. I am looking forward to some good discussions and moans with fellow drivers once I begin work in the near future
Are lorry drivers possibly the most intellectually underrated professionals among the work force?
Nahh. Some of us couldn’t afford to go to university - that’s all. 
For my first successful job interview, I was asked “Seeing as you are apparently overqualified for this job, why do you actually want it?” - My answer was “A robot will never do this job for me in my lifetime.”
I never looked back after that - and I didn’t even have a car licence at that time in summer 1987, when the housing market was in full boom, and the stock market rises seemed never-ending - to the masses at least.
A real job will always be better than an overpaid “non job” that could disappear into thin air tomorrow. A stockbroker who loses their job, and cannot get back into the industry anywhere - is going to do what exactly as a “career switch”?
A redundant deliverer of goods & services, later driver though? - They’'ll have work somewhere as long as there’s somewhere to work. Ok, it wouldn’t survive the apocalypse, but then again who cares? - Neither will anyone else!
“Trade Routes” have been a great source of national wealth since ancient times. Few core business sectors have remained so relatively unaltered since civilization began. 
Winseer:
jonesy1985:
This sort of thread is what has inspired me to become a truck driver.People are telling me “do you not think you’ll be over educated for the profession?” I tell them certainly not. Behind all the waffle and inertia that this thread demonstrates lingers substantial intellect and thoughtfulness. I am looking forward to some good discussions and moans with fellow drivers once I begin work in the near future
Are lorry drivers possibly the most intellectually underrated professionals among the work force?
Nahh. Some of us couldn’t afford to go to university - that’s all.
For my first successful job interview, I was asked “Seeing as you are apparently overqualified for this job, why do you actually want it?” - My answer was “A robot will never do this job for me in my lifetime.”
I never looked back after that - and I didn’t even have a car licence at that time in summer 1987, when the housing market was in full boom, and the stock market rises seemed never-ending - to the masses at least.
A real job will always be better than an overpaid “non job” that could disappear into thin air tomorrow. A stockbroker who loses their job, and cannot get back into the industry anywhere - is going to do what exactly as a “career switch”?
A redundant deliverer of goods & services, later driver though? - They’'ll have work somewhere as long as there’s somewhere to work. Ok, it wouldn’t survive the apocalypse, but then again who cares? - Neither will anyone else!“Trade Routes” have been a great source of national wealth since ancient times. Few core business sectors have remained so relatively unaltered since civilization began.
A late friend of mine who was killed working for Astran’s, was very highly educated at a public school, could have done what ever he liked in life but enjoyed driving lorries, also worked with a fully qualified barrister who told me he didn’t worry about the money it was the freedom being on the road that he enjoyed also over the time a university professor and a member of the lords, takes all kinds.
Ossie
There are some who argue that “being paid loads” makes up for the guilt one feels holding down a non-essential job. It’s sad if your mate died whilst doing what he loved though. We’d all like to think that “doing what we want” extends & enriches our lives - rather than shortens them. 
Forgot to link this earlier.
Well at least we must be near the bottom of the barrel when we can’t be arsed to write our own stuff, instead just copy links from jaded hacks like hitchens.
I’ll save you the read. He’s basically saying Tories & lib dems bad, labour good, ukip a game minnow on the fringe.
jonesy1985:
Happy Keith:
jonesy1985:
‘…Are lorry drivers possibly…’ etc‘…Dunno, etc…’
I am somewhat lost by your mantra…but I think I agree, if there is indeed a point you’re making…
Yeah, I good point, Jonesy …and cheers for the heads-up.
I get a bit/lot up myself when I rush a post - and making a point sometimes gets lost amongst trying to be concise (and then losing ‘it’)
My point is that the UK government, by letting the nation’s confrontational groupings ‘liberally’ do as they please, gets away with sitting pretty because those umpteen groups are always ‘at’ each other - rather than any or all the groups focussing on the government being slack at decently governing us.
Often so much so that Westminster need not bother worrying about being justifiably ‘shot at’ (or called to account) - which in turn means that Brussels is happy too.
Meanwhile, lorry drivers are often driven to destraction by doing lots of disliking (eg., of lots of other road-borne groups) and by also being disliked by similar disperate groups too.
It is thus that we are effectively neutered - intelligent or not
Just some thoughts & no big-deal really, I suppose
Cheers
BillyHunt:
‘…jaded hacks like hitchens … I’ll save you the read. He’s basically saying Tories & lib dems bad, labour good, ukip a game minnow on the fringe…’
Is he happy with you lot wazzing £53,000,000 of our taxmoney each & every day to Brussels for them to unaccountably fritter
I thnk you’ll find that most Brits see the entire concept of “Giving money to Eurozone” as “something we do when on holiday there, and that’s it”.
As a place to travel through, it’s bogged under with so many additional traffic laws, that you really have to watch your step as not to get done for something during such a crossing.
As for our political relationship? - What’s wrong with "Trading partner only"?
Tourism & Trade being kept going means that CLeggy’s “mllions of jobs dependent upon Europe being lost” isn’t even going to START to happen.
Doya think we’re on the verge of a totally obsolete Libdem party here? It’s evident already that the “europhile” contingnent is more of a minority than the europhobe one…
Happy Keith:
BillyHunt:
‘…jaded hacks like hitchens … I’ll save you the read. He’s basically saying Tories & lib dems bad, labour good, ukip a game minnow on the fringe…’Is he happy with you lot wazzing £53,000,000 of our taxmoney each & every day to Brussels for them to unaccountably fritter
He doesn’t mention it if he is, just wants milliband in to do instead.
At LEAST £53 million sent daily to our European partners in Brussels. I still don’t understand that with all this money why their motorways are in such poor condition!!!
People have always been sheep and almost desire someone to tell them what to do. PAYE for example. It amazes me how many people just accept this method of payment■■? It is crazy to me.
Europe is just an extension of this, I suppose a paradox, the people in Westminster need someone to rule them. But they have chosen several groups of people; Americans, Europeans and Arabs at least.
I want independence from them, then from Europe, then from Westminster. I can just about accept a regional government but even that is stretching it for me!
The eurozone donks all it’s (our) money away on MEP expense accounts - c’mon - we all knew that!
Winseer:
The eurozone donks all it’s (our) money away on MEP expense accounts - c’mon - we all knew that!
Good thing too…it is hard work being an MEP, for a start those chairs they have to sit in look very uncomfortable
jonesy1985:
Winseer:
The eurozone donks all it’s (our) money away on MEP expense accounts - c’mon - we all knew that!Good thing too…it is hard work being an MEP, for a start those chairs they have to sit in look very uncomfortable
Yeh, but we don’t get an expense account for having to drive a seddon, or sit in an axor on a hot summer’s day do we? 
Winseer:
The eurozone donks all it’s (our) money away on MEP expense accounts - c’mon - we all knew that!
Surely you won’t mind paying then what with so many ukip MEPs to fund.
I’ve just been reading how ukip intend to raise the tax allowance on the minimum wage, it would cost £18.7 million. They intend to pay for it by cutting the top rate of tax from 45% to 40%, this would cost £825 million. I think they might need a new calculator.