Look Billy,I’m 67 years old,I voted in the 1970 general election for the first time,and have voted Tory all my life,but no more I’ve had enough of Cameron’s “Shilly Shalling” about,he’s a duplicitas ■■■■ and if he were to be extremely lucky to get a majority at next years election and get in for five years he will come up with any number of excuses why we can’t have a referendum in 2017,he should be throwing his lot in with UKIP and to-gether they may be worth voting for.■■■■ the EU,we will be far better off out of it and then we can strengthen our ties with the rest of the World and trade freely wherever we wish,the EU as well as that was all we signed up to in the begining,a free trade area,anyway my concience is clear because voted NO in 1974 and havn’t changed my opinion since,so all I can say is VOTE UKIP on Thursday Lads.Cheers Bewick.
I just think that there is vastly too much ingrained corruption, collusion & sleaze running through the veins of the old guard, and that the proverbial apple cart is ripe for upsetting. Im a realist, and would not argue that UKIP is guaranteed to endure in its present form, but I am convinced that their ballsy stance on the most volatile euro issues is of extreme relevance right now. As for the satirical letter, I actually found it quite amusing, then simply dismissed it for what it is - a lightweight irrelevance.
The mere speculation of the possibility of a UKIP/Con coalition are testament to how ruffled the feathers of the establishment currently are.
VOTE UKIP…VOTE UKIP…VOTE UKIP…VOTE UKIP…VOTE UKIP…VOTE UKIP…
VOTE UKIP 
bradfordlad9999:
VOTE UKIP
UKIP all the way,I think all the vitriol heaped onto Nige runs off his back like water of a ducks,and so it should,roll on Thursday,I can’t wait 
Bewick.PS ■■■■ 'em all Nige !!!
claretmatt:
They don’t have a specific policy regarding the DCPC. None of the parties do. Manifesto in September.
ok, fair enough.
UKIP is a libertarian party which believes in as little state interference and regulation as possible, so is the most likely to abolish the DCPC.
if that’s the case it’s a good job they won’t be in a position of power for some time. A country cannot be run as a free for all.
BillyHunt:
claretmatt:
They don’t have a specific policy regarding the DCPC. None of the parties do. Manifesto in September.
ok, fair enough.
UKIP is a libertarian party which believes in as little state interference and regulation as possible, so is the most likely to abolish the DCPC.if that’s the case it’s a good job they won’t be in a position of power for some time. A country cannot be run as a free for all.
Glad you’re finally coming round to the UKIP way of thinking.
Own Account Driver:
BillyHunt:
A country cannot be run as a free for all.Glad you’re finally coming round to the UKIP way of thinking.
Well put.
Here’s that well known racist David Blunkett
dailymail.co.uk/news/article … rants.html
But I’m not, he’s the only one to have any answer to a simple question. Out of all of you going on about how good ukip & Nigel are, and how much they will do for us once their one policy comes true! He’s the only one that’s actually signed up to the party, and, by his own admission he doesn’t agree with them 100%. As for the DCPC, other parties won’t have a policy for it because it’s already passed into law as far as they’re concerned.
Getting out of the EU will solve so many problems in one go, like all the many thousands of dictates imposed on us over the past years will become obsolete we will no longer have to follow all of them to the letter, we will no doubt pick and chose what ones to keep and what ones to discard but the choice will be ours, not imposed on us by some faceless morons in Brussels, my little bug bear is my sight is getting bad due solely, according to my optician, be blamed on these new light bulbs that have been imposed on us even though they have been proved to be highly dangerous, if we are not in the EU we can import or manufacture what ever bulbs we want ( with permission of the green party of course). Some dictates we will have abide by to be able to travel or trade in Europe, the rest in the trash bin.
Ossie
OssieD:
Getting out of the EU will solve so many problems in one go, like all the many thousands of dictates imposed on us over the past years will become obsolete we will no longer have to follow all of them to the letter, we will no doubt pick and chose what ones to keep and what ones to discard but the choice will be ours, not imposed on us by some faceless morons in Brussels, my little bug bear is my sight is getting bad due solely, according to my optician, be blamed on these new light bulbs that have been imposed on us even though they have been proved to be highly dangerous, if we are not in the EU we can import or manufacture what ever bulbs we want ( with permission of the green party of course). Some dictates we will have abide by to be able to travel or trade in Europe, the rest in the trash bin.Ossie
This country has no proper industry, everything is imported. So, leaving the EU would be a dead end street for Britain.
Dennisthemenace:
OssieD:
Getting out of the EU will solve so many problems in one go, like all the many thousands of dictates imposed on us over the past years will become obsolete we will no longer have to follow all of them to the letter, we will no doubt pick and chose what ones to keep and what ones to discard but the choice will be ours, not imposed on us by some faceless morons in Brussels, my little bug bear is my sight is getting bad due solely, according to my optician, be blamed on these new light bulbs that have been imposed on us even though they have been proved to be highly dangerous, if we are not in the EU we can import or manufacture what ever bulbs we want ( with permission of the green party of course). Some dictates we will have abide by to be able to travel or trade in Europe, the rest in the trash bin.Ossie
This country has no proper industry, everything is imported. So, leaving the EU would be a dead end street for Britain.
That’s not really true is it? Britain is still a big manufacturer of cars, pharmaceuticals and chemicals, electronics, aircarft components, fighter jets, warships, luxury boats and yachts, components for renewable energy, to name a few.
Europe would love to strangle our financial services in the City, if we pull out of the EU that would end all that.
I’m just sick of being told what to do by people most of us have never heard of!
BillyHunt:
claretmatt:
They don’t have a specific policy regarding the DCPC. None of the parties do. Manifesto in September.
ok, fair enough.
UKIP is a libertarian party which believes in as little state interference and regulation as possible, so is the most likely to abolish the DCPC.if that’s the case it’s a good job they won’t be in a position of power for some time. A country cannot be run as a free for all.
That’s why we’re not voting for the main parties any more, what with their rich financial backers, rich offers of fancy jobs after leaving office, and rich that lobby “not to be taxed” and are heeded. “Free for all” - the “all” being the rich and powerful has had it their way long enough. It’s time for the so-called democratic system to let the people’s will take sway for a change, instead of leading us all just to vote for the “least worst” party all the time, because anything else is considered “daft”. Backing 100-1 shot horses is derided as “daft” too, until you get a tenner on one that comes in!
The biggest Richard head in town at that moment is the mug that laid it. 
(btw the last 100-1 winner at the daily races was Monday afternoon, so it’s not as if outsiders “never happen” at the bookies either!)
BillyHunt:
‘…Happy Keith, failed at what exactly…?’
Billy, you failed a sledgehammer attempt at painting racism against those you oppose as I established that the society of the United Kingdom are not a race - but rather share living in a place.
Therefore by extension and given your pasted quote, a non-race of diverse people are incapable of being racist against others of diversity from other lands: Rather it is the case in the European Elections that established UK subjects have only one party of choice that is mandated to maintain hitherto UK values and restoring independence of the UK as their living place for which to vote: It aint Rocket Science, mate.
It’s intersting to note that you require ‘…exact…’ explanations whilst sploshing favourable opinions of tired, hypocritical, deceptive politicians that fundamentally endorse federalism whilst pretending to be as British as a bulldog.
By that I mean your poster-boy, Cameron wearing his patriotic colours when the reality is that he - as did all the Bed-Wetting Four Lib-Lab-Green-Consters - endorsed the trecherous Lisbon Treaty which wholeheartedly gave Westminster’s remaining power (huh!) to the Brussels/Strasbourg, failed, undemocratic & unwanted, social experiment of the EU - to include it’s stinking DCPC
Better any DCPC included “having at least grade 5 CSE in English Language” eh?
The whole idea of “you qualify just by turning up” is it gives credentials to those that neither have a good enough command of this language, nor have obtained any exam qualifcation in this laguage on any other subject related to trucking at all. 
You could call this "How we at the EU managed to palm-off our workforce onto a nation of monoglots, whereas the reverse journey hasn’t been generally available to Brits since the time of “Aufwiedersehen Pet” style Gastarbeiter.
Happy Keith:
BillyHunt:
‘…Happy Keith, failed at what exactly…?’Billy, you failed a sledgehammer attempt at painting racism against those you oppose as I established that the society of the United Kingdom are not a race - but rather share living in a place.
Therefore by extension and given your pasted quote, a non-race of diverse people are incapable of being racist against others of diversity from other lands: Rather it is the case in the European Elections that established UK subjects have only one party of choice that is mandated to maintain hitherto UK values and restoring independence of the UK as their living place for which to vote: It aint Rocket Science, mate.
It’s intersting to note that you require ‘…exact…’ explanations whilst sploshing favourable opinions of tired, hypocritical, deceptive politicians that fundamentally endorse federalism whilst pretending to be as British as a bulldog.
By that I mean your poster-boy, Cameron wearing his patriotic colours when the reality is that he - as did all the Bed-Wetting Four Lib-Lab-Green-Consters - endorsed the trecherous Lisbon Treaty which wholeheartedly gave Westminster’s remaining power (huh!) to the Brussels/Strasbourg, failed, undemocratic & unwanted, social experiment of the EU - to include it’s stinking DCPC
Well I never thought I would write this but your tripe actually makes carryfast seem readable. Your “everyone’s against me” pish is tiresome in the extreme. Can you actually post anything without writing bed wetting four?
It makes me laugh at some of your guff regarding Nigel, blindly believing everything that spills from his maw. Happily forgetting in your blindness that he’s just another politician, yes, exactly the same as the others you despise, ready, willing & able to shaft the country the first chance he gets. Of course he seems like a great alternative because, so far he’s had to do bugger all except appeal to those nimby style fears you all have. Do you honestly think that everything will change come results day? DCPC cancelled, immigrants turned away at the borders, all ties with European Parliament cancelled. Forget it, none of that will happen for years, if it happens at all. I know you’re all getting excited at the thought of landslides on Thursday & massive wins next year but, and I know this will be hard to believe, not everyone likes Nigel & his chums, not everyone is desperate to get out of Europe. Just because a few disgruntled drivers on here, and let’s face it it’s only a few that have bothered, want Nigel in, it don’t mean it’s going to happen.
He is the messiah, and I should know, I’ve followed a few.
BillyHunt:
Just because a few disgruntled drivers on here, and let’s face it it’s only a few that have bothered, want Nigel in, it don’t mean it’s going to happen.
He is the messiah, and I should know, I’ve followed a few.
Well there seems to be a vast majority of people on here in favour of UKIP, still crack on, just becase you are in a minority of one doesn’t mean you are wrong.
You could always give this a read, I hope it doesn’t spoil your evening.
Forget Ukip and these staggeringly irrelevant European elections
The party is poised for a second-place finish … exactly where it came in last time around.
In newsrooms across the country, articles chronicling Ukip’s rise and triumph are being prepared: whether it’s “the irresistible rise to power”, “Why the Conservatives must listen to Ukip” or “Ukip versus the Westminster bubble”, we’re getting ready to read a lot into the election results when they come on Sunday.
Unless you’ve sat out the run-up to Thursday’s elections in a hermetically sealed bunker — and no one would blame you if you had — you’ll have spotted that Ukip was the only show in town. It’s not hard to see why: what’s the point in writing about the same old face-off between three uninspiring major party leaders when you’ve got Ukip, with their (superificial) challenge to the elite, their flamboyant leadership and, ah, colourful candidates?
The problem starts when we begin to believe the hype. Ukip is a bubble so over-inflated it makes the London property market look like a solid investment. The Ukip soap bubble is certainly big and certainly shiny, but it’ll still pop as soon as it’s given a good nudge. But how have we got here?
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The simple, bald fact is this: from a UK perspective the European elections are a staggering irrelevance. Despite Ukip’s oft-debunked claim that 75% of our laws are made in Brussels, the European parliament has minimal direct relevance on most issues our parties campaign on, or that voters care about.
The European commission proposes most European legislation; national governments (including the UK’s) have considerable say over what happens; and the European parliament often serves essentially as a rubber stamp. Given that both Ukip and the Conservatives sit in fringe groupings within the parliament, the impact of the UK’s vote on Thursday on political decision making in Europe will be close to zero.
The parties notice this, and that’s why their campaigns are essentially nonsense. The Conservatives are brazenly, and entirely falsely, presenting a vote for them on Thursday as a vote for an in/out referendum; Ukip is doing much the same. Both know they are talking nonsense: it’s for MPs in Westminster to grant such a referendum. MEPs have absolutely no power to do so.
The European election is a mummer’s farce, so it’s no surprise to see clowns performing well in the polls. When it comes to a general election, though, Europe drops dramatically down voters’ lists of concerns (it’s usually about 16th), while the UK economy, the NHS, crime and everyday issues rise to the fore — and minority party vote shares plummet.
Even this week, though, Ukip’s rise is less assured than you might think from the coverage. Lest we forget, Ukip came second in the 2009 European elections, securing around 16.5% of the vote (it peaked in polls ahead of election day at around 19%).
This time around it is helped by the near-total implosion of the (far nastier) BNP, which previously polled 6.5%, securing the party two MEPs. Working off a rough assumption that Ukip, though more moderate, will pick up the BNP’s anti-immigration votes, that gives it a rough base of 22%-23% from which to start. At the moment it is polling around 27% — hardly a surge.
It is entirely possible that come this weekend — five years and a million column inches later, Ukip will have surged from second place in an irrelevant election in 2009 to … second place in an irrelevant election in 2014, albeit with a few extra MEPs to collect lavish salaries and allowances, while turning up to vote less than any other UK party.
Minor parties often surge between UK general elections. In 1981, less than 18 months from a general election, the SDP-Liberal alliance polled more than 50% of the vote; but at the 1983 general election they secured just 23 seats. A week before the 2010 general election Cleggmania was in full swing and a nation’s commentariat wondered whether the party might even win more seats than Labour. As it transpired, it lost five seats.
And what of Ukip, just 12 months after its 16.5% triumph at the 2009 European elections? The party polled nationally at 3.1% and failed to secure a single seat.
Ukip is a cargo-cult political party: one man who connects well with voters trumpeting a half-arsed, barely factually coherent stance on a single issue most voters don’t care that much about. Under scrutiny the whole thing will — once again — collapse.
The one man who knows this more than any other is, of course, Nigel Farage. Faced with his party’s best chance to win a parliamentary seat in a decade — a by-election, timed alongside the European elections when his salient issue dominates the press, in the wake of a Westminster corruption scandal and in a rural Tory-leaning constituency — he decided … not to stand.
Farage knows he’s not leading a serious challenge. It’s time the rest of us worked that out too.
BillyHunt:
You could always give this a read, I hope it doesn’t spoil your evening.
Forget Ukip and these staggeringly irrelevant European elections
The party is poised for a second-place finish … exactly where it came in last time around.
In newsrooms across the country, articles chronicling Ukip’s rise and triumph are being prepared: whether it’s “the irresistible rise to power”, “Why the Conservatives must listen to Ukip” or “Ukip versus the Westminster bubble”, we’re getting ready to read a lot into the election results when they come on Sunday.Unless you’ve sat out the run-up to Thursday’s elections in a hermetically sealed bunker — and no one would blame you if you had — you’ll have spotted that Ukip was the only show in town. It’s not hard to see why: what’s the point in writing about the same old face-off between three uninspiring major party leaders when you’ve got Ukip, with their (superificial) challenge to the elite, their flamboyant leadership and, ah, colourful candidates?
The problem starts when we begin to believe the hype. Ukip is a bubble so over-inflated it makes the London property market look like a solid investment. The Ukip soap bubble is certainly big and certainly shiny, but it’ll still pop as soon as it’s given a good nudge. But how have we got here?
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The simple, bald fact is this: from a UK perspective the European elections are a staggering irrelevance. Despite Ukip’s oft-debunked claim that 75% of our laws are made in Brussels, the European parliament has minimal direct relevance on most issues our parties campaign on, or that voters care about.
The European commission proposes most European legislation; national governments (including the UK’s) have considerable say over what happens; and the European parliament often serves essentially as a rubber stamp. Given that both Ukip and the Conservatives sit in fringe groupings within the parliament, the impact of the UK’s vote on Thursday on political decision making in Europe will be close to zero.
The parties notice this, and that’s why their campaigns are essentially nonsense. The Conservatives are brazenly, and entirely falsely, presenting a vote for them on Thursday as a vote for an in/out referendum; Ukip is doing much the same. Both know they are talking nonsense: it’s for MPs in Westminster to grant such a referendum. MEPs have absolutely no power to do so.
The European election is a mummer’s farce, so it’s no surprise to see clowns performing well in the polls. When it comes to a general election, though, Europe drops dramatically down voters’ lists of concerns (it’s usually about 16th), while the UK economy, the NHS, crime and everyday issues rise to the fore — and minority party vote shares plummet.
Even this week, though, Ukip’s rise is less assured than you might think from the coverage. Lest we forget, Ukip came second in the 2009 European elections, securing around 16.5% of the vote (it peaked in polls ahead of election day at around 19%).
This time around it is helped by the near-total implosion of the (far nastier) BNP, which previously polled 6.5%, securing the party two MEPs. Working off a rough assumption that Ukip, though more moderate, will pick up the BNP’s anti-immigration votes, that gives it a rough base of 22%-23% from which to start. At the moment it is polling around 27% — hardly a surge.
It is entirely possible that come this weekend — five years and a million column inches later, Ukip will have surged from second place in an irrelevant election in 2009 to … second place in an irrelevant election in 2014, albeit with a few extra MEPs to collect lavish salaries and allowances, while turning up to vote less than any other UK party.
Minor parties often surge between UK general elections. In 1981, less than 18 months from a general election, the SDP-Liberal alliance polled more than 50% of the vote; but at the 1983 general election they secured just 23 seats. A week before the 2010 general election Cleggmania was in full swing and a nation’s commentariat wondered whether the party might even win more seats than Labour. As it transpired, it lost five seats.
And what of Ukip, just 12 months after its 16.5% triumph at the 2009 European elections? The party polled nationally at 3.1% and failed to secure a single seat.
Ukip is a cargo-cult political party: one man who connects well with voters trumpeting a half-arsed, barely factually coherent stance on a single issue most voters don’t care that much about. Under scrutiny the whole thing will — once again — collapse.
The one man who knows this more than any other is, of course, Nigel Farage. Faced with his party’s best chance to win a parliamentary seat in a decade — a by-election, timed alongside the European elections when his salient issue dominates the press, in the wake of a Westminster corruption scandal and in a rural Tory-leaning constituency — he decided … not to stand.
Farage knows he’s not leading a serious challenge. It’s time the rest of us worked that out too.
If this is all true how come you and all the other parties so worried, that’s what I cant figure out.
Ossie
BillyHunt:
You could always give this a read, I hope it doesn’t spoil your evening.
Forget Ukip and these staggeringly irrelevant European elections
The party is poised for a second-place finish … exactly where it came in last time around.
In newsrooms across the country, articles chronicling Ukip’s rise and triumph are being prepared: whether it’s “the irresistible rise to power”, “Why the Conservatives must listen to Ukip” or “Ukip versus the Westminster bubble”, we’re getting ready to read a lot into the election results when they come on Sunday.Unless you’ve sat out the run-up to Thursday’s elections in a hermetically sealed bunker — and no one would blame you if you had — you’ll have spotted that Ukip was the only show in town. It’s not hard to see why: what’s the point in writing about the same old face-off between three uninspiring major party leaders when you’ve got Ukip, with their (superificial) challenge to the elite, their flamboyant leadership and, ah, colourful candidates?
The problem starts when we begin to believe the hype. Ukip is a bubble so over-inflated it makes the London property market look like a solid investment. The Ukip soap bubble is certainly big and certainly shiny, but it’ll still pop as soon as it’s given a good nudge. But how have we got here?
Advertisement
The simple, bald fact is this: from a UK perspective the European elections are a staggering irrelevance. Despite Ukip’s oft-debunked claim that 75% of our laws are made in Brussels, the European parliament has minimal direct relevance on most issues our parties campaign on, or that voters care about.
The European commission proposes most European legislation; national governments (including the UK’s) have considerable say over what happens; and the European parliament often serves essentially as a rubber stamp. Given that both Ukip and the Conservatives sit in fringe groupings within the parliament, the impact of the UK’s vote on Thursday on political decision making in Europe will be close to zero.
The parties notice this, and that’s why their campaigns are essentially nonsense. The Conservatives are brazenly, and entirely falsely, presenting a vote for them on Thursday as a vote for an in/out referendum; Ukip is doing much the same. Both know they are talking nonsense: it’s for MPs in Westminster to grant such a referendum. MEPs have absolutely no power to do so.
The European election is a mummer’s farce, so it’s no surprise to see clowns performing well in the polls. When it comes to a general election, though, Europe drops dramatically down voters’ lists of concerns (it’s usually about 16th), while the UK economy, the NHS, crime and everyday issues rise to the fore — and minority party vote shares plummet.
Even this week, though, Ukip’s rise is less assured than you might think from the coverage. Lest we forget, Ukip came second in the 2009 European elections, securing around 16.5% of the vote (it peaked in polls ahead of election day at around 19%).
This time around it is helped by the near-total implosion of the (far nastier) BNP, which previously polled 6.5%, securing the party two MEPs. Working off a rough assumption that Ukip, though more moderate, will pick up the BNP’s anti-immigration votes, that gives it a rough base of 22%-23% from which to start. At the moment it is polling around 27% — hardly a surge.
It is entirely possible that come this weekend — five years and a million column inches later, Ukip will have surged from second place in an irrelevant election in 2009 to … second place in an irrelevant election in 2014, albeit with a few extra MEPs to collect lavish salaries and allowances, while turning up to vote less than any other UK party.
Minor parties often surge between UK general elections. In 1981, less than 18 months from a general election, the SDP-Liberal alliance polled more than 50% of the vote; but at the 1983 general election they secured just 23 seats. A week before the 2010 general election Cleggmania was in full swing and a nation’s commentariat wondered whether the party might even win more seats than Labour. As it transpired, it lost five seats.
And what of Ukip, just 12 months after its 16.5% triumph at the 2009 European elections? The party polled nationally at 3.1% and failed to secure a single seat.
Ukip is a cargo-cult political party: one man who connects well with voters trumpeting a half-arsed, barely factually coherent stance on a single issue most voters don’t care that much about. Under scrutiny the whole thing will — once again — collapse.
The one man who knows this more than any other is, of course, Nigel Farage. Faced with his party’s best chance to win a parliamentary seat in a decade — a by-election, timed alongside the European elections when his salient issue dominates the press, in the wake of a Westminster corruption scandal and in a rural Tory-leaning constituency — he decided … not to stand.
Farage knows he’s not leading a serious challenge. It’s time the rest of us worked that out too.
I look forward to your comments after the people have spoken
Billyhunt 
there are many 
anti EU parties 
in EUROPE TOO roll on tomorrow.