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Here we go, it’s going to be rough but worth it!
Here we go, it’s going to be rough but worth it!
What’s going to be rough?
BillyHunt:
Here we go, it’s going to be rough but worth it!
What’s going to be rough?
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I said “what’s going to be rough” not " what does rough mean".
Here we go, it’s going to be rough but worth it!
I couldn’t have put it better myself. Nothing rough about it - except for those trying to clutch at straw arguments as to “Why” we shouldn’t vote for a party the main political establishment have declared “racist”. So if I voice my fears about my wages being supressed by a white eastern european, or have a “white” moldovan stand behind me at the cashpoint, or get driven into by a white guy without any insurance, or get a white guy promoted above me, 'cos he plays golf with the boss? - Well if that’s the definition of being “racist” - then I guess a lot more of us are going to become these “neo-racists” than is generally realised, and Ukip are going to conitnue climbing in the polls, despite all the vote manipulations already in play.
I know a few people who are immigrants, from the African and Asian continent at that, have been here over 20 years, work hard, behave themselves and have integrated with the rest of us - but THEY vote Ukip because they are sick of being pushed down the queue for public services such as housing lists, waiting times in the NHS, and of course the “softly softly” approach the now undermanned police takes with the “newcomers” whom the “oldcomers” dislike most of all! - How’s THAT for an irony?
Let’s zoom right out and look at core reasons why this country is going the way it is:
(1) We let foreign big business interests buy up our own interests, despite the fact that the firms purchased did NOT need bailing out. All the while, where were these foreign firms stepping in to buy up HBOS or Marconi and keep open closing down factories like Pfizer’s in Sandwich who then have the audacity to DARE to bid for another very profitable British firm? Any firm that buys a British firm, and then lays people off like Kraft did with Cadbury’s should have all their property in Britain confiscated by the British state, and nationalised. THEN let’s see the “foreign aggressive takeovers” dwindle away to nothing. We would not be the first country to take such drastic action by a long shot. Russia have already done it with BP for example.
(2) Immigration is to push wages down for rank-and-file jobs - pure and simple. Wages deflation counters the manufactured inflation of “expanded money supply”. I call it this, because every single government since the war left office with more money printed than was decommissioned out - thus giving the public the impression that “prices only rise, inflation is permanent, and guaranteed like death and taxes”, which in turn encourages people to get into debt, because repayment of those debts will be easier in the future. This assumes wages rise faster than inflation. Sorry bud, that’s not been the case for a few years now!
(3) We’ve paid more into the EU than we’ve got out of it from the very beginning. This is because the larger, stronger economies are expected to contibute the extra to subsidise those “always poorer” countries (funny that!) that are queuing to sign up with the EU. Thus, we end up paying someone else’s subsidy until the sky falls down. We cannot and will never “make a profit” out of paying Brussels for nothing more than stupid laws that hinder rather than help the British economy short, medium and long term.
(4) Anyone pushing back against (1),(2), & (3) is deemed to be shot down in flames with labels of “nutcase” or “fruitcake” or “■■■■” or “racist” or “anti-semite” or “xeonophobe” … ad nauseum. Foreign interests call so many of our shots now, that we’re not so much “turning into a foreign country” - but already work for them! Who on here works for Fedex (American) or Tesco (Jewish) or M&S (Jewish) or Tata Steel (Indian) or DHL (German) or Esso (American) or Kühne & Nagel (Swiss)… ad nauseum. The list goes on and on. So much for our governments past and present being “friendly to small business”. What a load of ■■■■■■■■ THAT argument was. Of last year’s business failures - over 96% were small firms with operating capital of less than £1million. THEY couldn’t make money, but the big boys could. Large cap failures, whilst being more spectacular when they occur, are a tiny fraction of total business failures - especially since the credit crunch 2008.
Wouldn’t it have made a lot more sense in 2008 to use ALL QE money to keep British firms about to fall over afloat, BAN foreign takeovers of British firms outright, and let the banks play sink or swim with their own money raised in their normal ways - instead of touching Joe Taxpayer, and then laughing at us when the government meekly handed it over?
“The Economics of the Future are somewhat different…”
Well, we need to “make that so” faster, because if it doesn’t come soon, we’ll surely end up with another world war between the people and the large corporations that already have mainstream government in their pockets, as they have for years. 
The “main parties” are thrashing around to discredit UKIP, with pretty much no success. Their cohorts in the press are doing their bidding, whilst forgetting that the main parties have some odd characters in them too. Dennis Skinner anyone? The hand ringing, Guardian reading liberal audience members of Question Time will obviously scoff at them, but they don’t represent ordinary people anyway, just an intellectual clique from fashionable, well to do areas in the South East.
People were sick of New Labour, and things went down hill after Iraq, which tainted Blair and therefore their ambitions of staying in power. Gordon Brown’s tenure was a breathtaking disaster, there’s nothing else I can add there.
When The Con-Dems got together I thought then that it wouldn’t be a toothbrush sharing relationship, and you have to wonder if the PM and his deputy even have anything to do with each other on a day to day basis.
I couldn’t vote Labour at the last election as I was so disgusted with Harman, Balls and all the others, who were lining their pockets and scandalising the government with sleaze. John Prescott’s affair and fights, sexed up dossiers, PFI waste, dodgy this, dodgy that.
The scary thing is a lot of those people are on the Labour front bench now. Which begs the question, why do people continue to support them?? Around my area, a council estate, are Labour signs for the election. I want to bang their heads together and say “Do you really want Harriet Harman as PM and Ed bloody Balls as Deputy?”
Well do you?
The Conservatives and Lib Dems?
I do NOT agree with the increase on Aid. Where is our Aid? We are cutting our defences and giving tax pounds hand over fist to bloody China for heavens sake! I also feel that Cameron has put off the EU in out vote till 2017 hoping it will have blown over by then.
Which I don’t think it will. UKIP will do well next week, and while they won’t win General Election seats in the main election, IMHO they’ll set in train a movement amongst ordinary Brits tht challenges all the other parties to up their game or face annihilation.
Vote UKIP 
Proud to be a “fruitcake” 
It’s a crying shame that a good show next week won’t translate into 50+ seats next year. That would be all they need to become “Kingmaker” after all. 
Winseer:
It’s a crying shame that a good show next week won’t translate into 50+ seats next year. That would be all they need to become “Kingmaker” after all.
A week is a long time in Politics, and so is a year. A year ago, UKIP were not polling as high as they are now.
I’ve been a UKIP member for two years now, I don’t like the billboard campaign at all, but the trouble is the man who’s paying for it (Paul Sykes) wanted creative control over what went on them. I would have preferred a more positive campaign which would have been harder for the media and the establishment to attack. I’m willing to forgive this transgression along with Nigel’s first bad interview in the history of ever on LBC last week, because there isn’t a ■■■ paper between the LibLabCon parties.
I would never vote for them even if UKIP didn’t exist because they simply don’t match my views closely enough. UKIP has it’s faults, it’s still a young party comparatively speaking and certain policy areas need tweaking but it’s broad church. You’re never going to find a political party you agree 100% with all of the time. The main reason I’m a UKIP member is because I’m deeply bothered about our national democracy being assassinated by people who are not elected and who have no mechanism in place for their removal. Stalin would be smiling if he could see the EU today.
And, as far as I’m concerned, the only reason you would vote Labour is because you want more of what you’re not entitled to.
truckerjim:
Hi,I am just wondering if UKIP get in if they will abolish the DCPC; not that they will be elected.
claretmatt:
I’ve been a UKIP member for two years now.
Excellent, maybe you could answer the original question posted above.
Dunno. I’m not Farage, and neither is Claretmatt. 
Winseer:
Dunno. I’m not Farage, and neither is Claretmatt.
No, but he is a member of the club. I am assuming that, as he frequents a trucking forum, he would have a vested interest in knowing their policies relating to transport.
We could always let him answer for himself of course.
F.A.O. BillyHunt - My next door neighbour is the mayor of Thorpe Saint Andrew, and a staunch dyed-in-the-wool Tory who spends half his waking hours wedged firmly up Chloe Smiths ■■■ (Con. Norwich north MP) Despite all this sycophantic indulgence, he is very clearly not privy to the details of closed door policy meetings of the blue-tie elite, and beyond the photo opportunities of newly installed playground facilities etc, doesnt seem to be particularly switched on as to what his masters are planning to do in order to win the next general election earmarked for 7/5/15.
What Im trying to say (clumsily) is that if you want an answer to a heavyweight question in politics (and you seem rather like a dog with a bone on this one), its usually best to seek a response from someone qualified to answer within the party concerned, rather than to keep pecking at the “man in the street” who has expressed his empathy towards that party`s broadly outlined policies.
I absolutely know that if I were to ask you any similar question concerning your beloved party`s intentions for the future, you simply would not be able to give a conclusive answer, yet you rather naively seem to be expecting one for yourself. 
Oh yeah, vote UKIP!
Well I’m not a member of the Tory party, never have been despite voting for them, but I do know they are in favour of keeping the DCPC. If you asked me a similar question to the one I posed I would simply go to their website & look it up. Try doing that with ukip. You won’t find anything as they don’t have a transport policy. They have led you, and those like you, to believe that getting out of Europe will solve all our problems, they won’t.
Just the same as he’s got you to swallow his beer & ■■■, look at me being one of the lads routine. Not bad for a millionaire that has been trying to get elected for 16 years. Yes, he’s been a career politician for that long.
You’ve already got people on here bleating that the other parties are smearing him & ukip, it’s not smearing if it’s true btw. Others are starting to complain that they won’t get enough seats, possibly none, next year and want proportional representation, how very lib dem.
No I think I’ll stay with the Tories what with lower fuel prices, less tax, lower unemployment, deficit coming down and production going up.
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F.A.O. BillyHunt - My next door neighbour is the mayor of Thorpe Saint Andrew, and a staunch dyed-in-the-wool Tory who spends half his waking hours wedged firmly up Chloe Smiths ■■■ (Con. Norwich north MP) Despite all this sycophantic indulgence, he is very clearly not privy to the details of closed door policy meetings of the blue-tie elite, and beyond the photo opportunities of newly installed playground facilities etc, doesnt seem to be particularly switched on as to what his masters are planning to do in order to win the next general election earmarked for 7/5/15.What I
m trying to say (clumsily) is that if you want an answer to a heavyweight question in politics (and you seem rather like a dog with a bone on this one), its usually best to seek a response from someone qualified to answer within the party concerned, rather than to keep pecking at the “man in the street” who has expressed his empathy towards that party`s broadly outlined policies.I absolutely know that if I were to ask you any similar question concerning your beloved party`s intentions for the future, you simply would not be able to give a conclusive answer, yet you rather naively seem to be expecting one for yourself.
Oh yeah, vote UKIP!
“The next pint you will be holding - is the one I buy you.” 
BillyHunt:
Well I’m not a member of the Tory party, never have been despite voting for them, but I do know they are in favour of keeping the DCPC. If you asked me a similar question to the one I posed I would simply go to their website & look it up. Try doing that with ukip. You won’t find anything as they don’t have a transport policy. They have led you, and those like you, to believe that getting out of Europe will solve all our problems, they won’t.
Just the same as he’s got you to swallow his beer & ■■■, look at me being one of the lads routine. Not bad for a millionaire that has been trying to get elected for 16 years. Yes, he’s been a career politician for that long.
You’ve already got people on here bleating that the other parties are smearing him & ukip, it’s not smearing if it’s true btw. Others are starting to complain that they won’t get enough seats, possibly none, next year and want proportional representation, how very lib dem.
No I think I’ll stay with the Tories what with lower fuel prices, less tax, lower unemployment, deficit coming down and production going up.
I’m thinking here if some serious stack had been called off, there might have actually had been chance to be elected.
Millionaire enter. Millionaire leave. No money spent. No election won.
The Sarge:
UKIP are [zb] and deserve to hit the scrapheap alongside BNP and the National Front…
…and the gang of three have proven themselves to be ■■■■, and deserve to hit the scrapheap alongside each other.
the continual references (make that analogies) to BNP and the National Front are innapropriate, unoriginal and tired.
Well the comparisons will continue as long as their candidates cannot keep their mouths shut.
BillyHunt:
Well the comparisons will continue as long as their candidates cannot keep their mouths shut.
UKIP are facing intense scrutiny from the mainstream parties, who can clearly see the writing on the wall. However, I don’t think people who live in glass houses should throw stones, anyone for Jonathon Aitken, Jeffrey Archer, Harvey Proctor etc etc etc when it comes to discussing personal ethics?
BillyHunt:
Well the comparisons will continue as long as their candidates cannot keep their mouths shut.
Free speech is a great asset, I expect you to be busy for the foreseeable future.