Tory voters - thanks lads, you did great

Well after 13 years of tory rule the rivers are chock full of raw excrement, the water companies have extracted 70 billion and given it to shareholders and now they’re doubling bills so you can pay to fix it, pensioners are too scared to turn the gas on, Brexit is costing GDP 4% every year (still, at least it fixed migration eh? Ooops, migration is now double what it was before Brexit), mortgages doubling, schools and hospitals ready to collapse.

Phew. I don’t know where we would be without you and your loyal tory vote.

Those so called boomer pensioners will be so much better off when our pensions are slashed and retirement age increased even further to subsidise the young Socialist tendency’s non work cycle joy riding lifestyle.
Also having our savings and property stolen with savings and property taxes to fund the Socialists’ open door and open cheque book immigration policies.
As for rabid ‘climate’ scam supporters moaning about high gas prices when they intend to remove the option of using fossil fuel before 2030, you couldn’t make it up.

I dont know much about politics but I do know that,the more you give people on a plate,the more you create dependancy.I agree with you about the water,but the issue about mortgages,ultimatley,this is capitalism,the rich get richer,the poor stay the same so we need a new system.But what is it?
We’ve already tried communism and socialism.The problem with socialism,if you have ten people in a room,give them all £100,within an hour,one person has £200,5 people only have £10 left.Now you have inequality.As for the pensioners,they have lived in an age where you could buy a house for 3 times salary,unlike todays youngsters.They have lived in an age where you could pay into a pension and then not have to worry about turning up the gas.But if they spent this money instead on other things,does the guy who who did save for retirement,does he have to foot the bill?
Now,in my case,Ive always paid into a pension.Im not exactly rolling in it but I dont expect to be worrying about not turning the gas up.I talj to drivers about this ,sometimes I even suggest,do a rest day,put the extra money in the pension,no no no,I like my day off.They can afford the latest mobile phone,fancy cars and holidays and all the rest of it but paying extra into the pension? Nah,not for me,and then when you get to retirement oh,I can’t afford to turn the gas up!
Oh it’s the tory government’s fault!

JeffA:
Well after 13 years of tory rule the rivers are chock full of raw excrement, the water companies have extracted 70 billion and given it to shareholders and now they’re doubling bills so you can pay to fix it, pensioners are too scared to turn the gas on, Brexit is costing GDP 4% every year (still, at least it fixed migration eh? Ooops, migration is now double what it was before Brexit), mortgages doubling, schools and hospitals ready to collapse.

Phew. I don’t know where we would be without you and your loyal tory vote.

Don’t forget the scandalous sum of £84 a week for being on the dole under this Tory government.

I’d vote Tory just out of spite if I thought it would make even one socialist parasites teeth itch.

Sploom:
I dont know much about politics but I do know that,the more you give people on a plate,the more you create dependancy.I agree with you about the water,but the issue about mortgages,ultimatley,this is capitalism,the rich get richer,the poor stay the same so we need a new system.But what is it?
We’ve already tried communism and socialism.The problem with socialism,if you have ten people in a room,give them all £100,within an hour,one person has £200,5 people only have £10 left.Now you have inequality.As for the pensioners,they have lived in an age where you could buy a house for 3 times salary,unlike todays youngsters.They have lived in an age where you could pay into a pension and then not have to worry about turning up the gas.But if they spent this money instead on other things,does the guy who who did save for retirement,does he have to foot the bill?
Now,in my case,Ive always paid into a pension.Im not exactly rolling in it but I dont expect to be worrying about not turning the gas up.I talj to drivers about this ,sometimes I even suggest,do a rest day,put the extra money in the pension,no no no,I like my day off.They can afford the latest mobile phone,fancy cars and holidays and all the rest of it but paying extra into the pension? Nah,not for me,and then when you get to retirement oh,I can’t afford to turn the gas up!
Oh it’s the tory government’s fault!

You obviously didn’t spend the best years of your working life during the late 70’s early-80’s economy.
The truth is the best years that you’re erroneously claiming we lived in were actually a very narrow window from late 1950’s to early 70’s.Even then films like Cathy Come Home were a ducu drama.
Most if not all of those benefitting from those years are now either dead or not long for this world.
IE born between the late 1920’s to late 1940’s.My parents were better off financially than I ever was being born around 10 years too late.Boomers bs.
As for climate scam supporters whingeing about expensive energy costs you’re avin a larf.If they can’t afford gas they certainly can’t afford your all electric utopia.

Edit to add my salary in 1984 when I was 25 was around £5k pa and I was lucky to even have a job.My parents’ semi detached house was valued at around £40k 3x my salary good luck with that.Which is why I never moved out of the parental home.

the maoster:
I’d vote Tory just out of spite if I thought it would make even one socialist parasites teeth itch.

Socialism is a control freak ideology, financed by the theft of other people’s money.Until it runs out and the naive mugs get fed up with being slaves to serve the red flag and the party elite running the scam.

the maoster:
I’d vote Tory just out of spite if I thought it would make even one socialist parasites teeth itch.

You’d vote tory even if you had to give Grant Schapps a BJ. And teabag you.

As long as it got your precious little ■■■■■■■ in a twist then yes.

Picking hairs off your tongue too?

the maoster:
As long as it got your precious little ■■■■■■■ in a twist then yes.

But you’d draw the line at rees mogg.

This is the sort of language I expect to hear in a school playground ,not on a trucking forum.
Grow up!

It was a simple enough question - he said he would.

I’m a proud socialist and Labour voter (but I won’t be voting for Starmer) I’ve always been a trade union member I also run my own business
There’s no party in this country that represents the working people anymore
That’s why a lot of people are turning to trade unions for a voice and to improve their pay and conditions
I voted for Brexit as the EU is a undemocratic institution both my Grandads fought in WW2 for freedom and democracy which the EU definitely isn’t
The ideology of the Common Market was a good idea but it became more politicalised which to me was a no no
I despise the Conservative Party especially Thatcher who started all this “I’m all right Jack” society
This country has never recovered from her policies

gazsa401:
I’m a proud socialist and Labour voter (but I won’t be voting for Starmer) I’ve always been a trade union member I also run my own business
There’s no party in this country that represents the working people anymore
That’s why a lot of people are turning to trade unions for a voice and to improve their pay and conditions
I voted for Brexit as the EU is a undemocratic institution both my Grandads fought in WW2 for freedom and democracy which the EU definitely isn’t
The ideology of the Common Market was a good idea but it became more politicalised which to me was a no no
I despise the Conservative Party especially Thatcher who started all this “I’m all right Jack” society
This country has never recovered from her policies

That was Tony Benn’s problem with the EU - they had power over us but there was no way of voting them out.

gazsa401:
I’m a proud socialist and Labour voter (but I won’t be voting for Starmer) I’ve always been a trade union member I also run my own business
There’s no party in this country that represents the working people anymore
That’s why a lot of people are turning to trade unions for a voice and to improve their pay and conditions
I voted for Brexit as the EU is a undemocratic institution both my Grandads fought in WW2 for freedom and democracy which the EU definitely isn’t
The ideology of the Common Market was a good idea but it became more politicalised which to me was a no no
I despise the Conservative Party especially Thatcher who started all this “I’m all right Jack” society
This country has never recovered from her policies

Exactly what was the difference between Callaghan’s policies v Thatcher’s ?.Thatcher just finished the job that Callaghan started.
Socialism is the ideology of the Collective which by definition means Supra National institutions and centralised government like the EU and USSR.

JeffA:

gazsa401:
I’m a proud socialist and Labour voter (but I won’t be voting for Starmer) I’ve always been a trade union member I also run my own business
There’s no party in this country that represents the working people anymore
That’s why a lot of people are turning to trade unions for a voice and to improve their pay and conditions
I voted for Brexit as the EU is a undemocratic institution both my Grandads fought in WW2 for freedom and democracy which the EU definitely isn’t
The ideology of the Common Market was a good idea but it became more politicalised which to me was a no no
I despise the Conservative Party especially Thatcher who started all this “I’m all right Jack” society
This country has never recovered from her policies

That was Tony Benn’s problem with the EU - they had power over us but there was no way of voting them out.

Tony Benn and Peter Shore were ultimately Nationalists not Socialists.They just didn’t know it.By definition Socialism means selling out individual national interests and democracy for the interests of the collective.
Especially when that Collective is perceived as being good for Socialism.Which is why Callaghan and Jenkins won out.That ended well

tmcassett:

JeffA:
Well after 13 years of tory rule the rivers are chock full of raw excrement, the water companies have extracted 70 billion and given it to shareholders and now they’re doubling bills so you can pay to fix it, pensioners are too scared to turn the gas on, Brexit is costing GDP 4% every year (still, at least it fixed migration eh? Ooops, migration is now double what it was before Brexit), mortgages doubling, schools and hospitals ready to collapse.

Phew. I don’t know where we would be without you and your loyal tory vote.

Don’t forget the scandalous sum of £84 a week for being on the dole under this Tory government.

:laughing: :laughing:

JeffA:
It was a simple enough question - he said he would.

Simple question l.How did the group UB40 get its name.Which government was running the country at the time.