Dangerous driving charges.
appeared before Bristol Magistrates on 13 June 2023 charged with dangerous driving.He was released on bail and is next due to appear at Bristol Crown Court on 17 August.
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Upgrade to Crown from Magistrates, he might do well to pack his toothbrush. I’m curious how far he traveled after leaving the tipper body behind, there were no signs from the pictures in the press that he’d stopped quickly, if he buggered off completely that in itself is potentially worth six months porridge for failing to stop, let alone the dangerous driving component
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Maximum: 2 years’ custody
Offence range: Community order – 2 years’ custody
Obligatory disqualification: minimum 1 year with compulsory extended re-test
(Minimum 2 years disqualification if the offender has been disqualified two or more times for a period of at least 56 days in the three years preceding the commission of the offence)
By pleading guilty in the earlier proceedings of a crown court he will get two thirds knocked off his sentence, by pleading not guilty it goes to trial and the jury decides his ultimate fate but will lose the two thirds.
Zac_A:
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This picture should show you his by the 7 lamp post along the road
Foot down Friday, that’s quite a distance to go before stopping!
I’ll say! Might have been an idea to back up a bit, closer to the scene of the incident
I wonder who pays for motorway closure costs, gantry inspection and repairs and a plethora of additional costs?
The reversing up bit made me laugh!
Henry Stephens:
I wonder who pays for motorway closure costs, gantry inspection and repairs and a plethora of additional costs?
The reversing up bit made me laugh!
At least if he was closer it might have suggested he was paying some attention to the world around him, as it is it looks like he only stopped when he realized he could go a lot faster than three minutes beforehand
Costs?
In theory, the insurance company will be paying for those costs, and we’ll be looking at a six or seven figure number for sure.
In practice, the insurance assessors (investigators) will be looking for all the myriad ways they can avoid paying out: Was there a defective warning buzzer/light to indicate the body was raised? Was matey-boy on his phone? Is there any evidence of load-related bonuses being paid by the operator? Was the vehicle correctly maintained?
If they can find what they need to invalidate the insurance, the operator will be paying the bills.
BTW, it’s a one-third reduction for an early guilty plea, not two-thirds, unless something has radically changed since the time I was giving moral support to a friend who was in the crepe
My error, it is one third.
Henry Stephens:
By pleading guilty in the earlier proceedings of a crown court he will get two thirds knocked off his sentence, by pleading not guilty it goes to trial and the jury decides his ultimate fate but will lose the two thirds.
Just have a Google before you spout ■■■■■■■■. 1/3rd of a sentence at the most for a guilty plea, assuming there are mitigating factors.
Edit: you’ve already realised
Culpability and aggravating factors are used by the judge to decide if the custody threshold has been passed, if custody is given, these factors are used to determine the time in prison.
The sentencing guidelines are written by the government and not judges in a 1500 page book.
For mitigation circumstances,that will be down to the defence barrister.
Prosecutors are also barristers and they swap roles to be defence and the defence swap to be prosecutors to keep it fair and square.
Whatever the Judge decides, matey has a bit shy of three weeks to “get his affairs in order”.
I’m pretty sure the Crown case won’t pass unnoticed by the industry press, I just hope they have a proper reporter on it, not one of the current crop of social-media trained wanna-be journalists operating without any editorial input, and who don’t know the difference between a van and a truck.
You won’t believe how many emails I have sent to so called journalists and local reporters to inform them that a Ford Transit tipper is not a 44 ton lorry, they don’t know the difference, it’s all on the dvla website for vehicle dimensions I tell them.
Henry Stephens:
Foot down Friday, that’s quite a distance to go before stopping!
First 5 lamposts he’s looking round to see who’s hit who, then he realises…
The brown envelope from the Traffic Commissioner would have arrived by now for a personal invitation for Bourbon chocolate or Rich Tea biscuits washed down with a mug of Earl Grey.
Henry Stephens:
The brown envelope from the Traffic Commissioner would have arrived by now for a personal invitation for Bourbon chocolate or Rich Tea biscuits washed down with a mug of Earl Grey.
I don’t think that you quite got this.
The old phrase (which has been used in most regimented jobs, such as army, police, fire brigade etc, where official bollockings are commonplace) is “interview without coffee” indicating that no pleasantries are to be exchanged.
It has evolved into "tea and biscuits " but they are still very much NOT to be offered at the meeting
He’s been to court released on bail untill may 24 with a trial expected in June
He’s entered a plea of not guilty, I’ve love to hear his story as to why this wasn’t his fault
The usual excuse given these days seems to be mental illness.
So court date set 13/14 months after the incident……is a delay that long common in our rickety system? Seems a bit ridiculous to me.