As a biker, I look after myself 1st… BUT, have been knocked off by selfish, incosiderate, distracted, ■■■■■■ car drivers in the past.
I’m not talking about someone who’s done mirror / signal / manouver, I’m talking of the ■■■■ in a traffic jam who decides he’s going to go in the other lane because it’s going faster… BAM. I’m talking of the ■■■■ on his phone when he decides he needed the other direction etc etc.
There are stupid bikers, as stupid car drivers, truckers, van drivers etc etc etc.
But, too many people drive on auto-pilot… And, I’m not being funny, you should be aware of a bike behind you before you turn, right or wrong, will you feel better knowing you weren’t in the wrong when you’ve a dead biker on your bonnet?
Same in trucks, we’re often in the right if he collide with a car because they’re stupid muppets who don’t understand stopping distance etc, but we still do our best to avoid them because we know 44t would most likely turn their car into a matchbox toy.
Right or wrong, look out for vulnerable road users - including pedestrians, cyclists, children etc.
I understand it to be specification required by the EU - and perhaps a lot to do with Euro-Muppet’s not doing a ‘shoulder check’ when they turn?
PS. Maybe it’s time to raise this annual chestnut - so how about the entire nation’s ‘tin-condom’ commuter’s going onto main beam whenever a hint of mist appears, etc, etc? Surely a motorcyclist has more legitimacy to spark up his reduced presence when compared to Samantha who can’t be arsed legally demisting her 4x4 before hareing off on the half-mile school run? That really kick’s me off…
Think Bike? I wish some Bikers would think for themselves, had two this week try to run up the inside, first was in London I was turning left and it was a tight one so I moved out to take it wide, indicator on well in advance. I can see the biker tearing down the inside of the cars behind me, surely he would see what I was planning to do, but no he keeps on coming til the last second he slams just before he collides with the trailer. Arms up in the air like its my fault
Second time was on the M25 at Reigate hill, I passed a slower truck, checked mirror, indicated and as i started pulling back in some dimwit courier rider tries to undertake me, why he thought this was acceptable and didn’t wait the few seconds for me to pull in I’ll never know, switched back to overtake and invited me for coffee as he passed on the right side, I could only shake my head with disbelief
Think bike? How about Think Truck? And if you can’t see one manovureing go to specsavers
Well I use a bike everyday on the motorway have done for years, Its a pretty meaningless slogan. People will see you or they won’t, regardless of what you wear, how visible you are lights on or off it makes little difference.
Don’t think biker on my account ! I’ll do all the thinking for everyone around me, no offence but I can’t rely on someone elses thinking and that applies to everything I ride/drive.
I worked briefly for a company who supplies bike-to-bike and rider-to-pillion communications equipment. Just before I started work the gaffer said to me that bikers were as thick as cack. The bloke who I was taking over from said that he had spent 30 years as a motorcycle policeman but in all his time as a rozzer he had never come across people as stupid and abusive as bikers.
For example, I had a biker call me about purchasing equipment for him and three mates going on a riding holiday together. This bloke was allegedly a solicitor for a government agency, the conversation went something like this:
HIM: I need equipment for me and three mates going on a riding holiday next month. All four of us need to communicate between us, what do I need?
ME: Firstly, you’ll need four PMR446 radios…
HIM: Why do I need four radios, won’t one radio be enough?
ME: You’ll need a radio each to communicate between yourselves.
HIM: How does that work?
ME: It’s like this telephone conversation… If you didn’t have a telephone how would you talk to me?
HIM: Oh, I see…!
A bloke near where I live is a Senior Observer with a leading motorcycle group. His nickname is ‘Crasher’ because, as the name suggests, he’s always smashing up bikes by riding too fast!
Why is it that you never see a biker keeping to the speed limit but they’re always the first to complain about the inadequacies of other road users? Have you noticed that these motorcycle accident blackspots are in places where bikers often ride erratically and exceed the speed limit?
lumpygreenpoo:
I worked briefly for a company who supplies bike-to-bike and rider-to-pillion communications equipment. Just before I started work the gaffer said to me that bikers were as thick as cack. The bloke who I was taking over from said that he had spent 30 years as a motorcycle policeman but in all his time as a rozzer he had never come across people as stupid and abusive as bikers.
For example, I had a biker call me about purchasing equipment for him and three mates going on a riding holiday together. This bloke was allegedly a solicitor for a government agency, the conversation went something like this:
HIM: I need equipment for me and three mates going on a riding holiday next month. All four of us need to communicate between us, what do I need?
ME: Firstly, you’ll need four PMR446 radios…
HIM: Why do I need four radios, won’t one radio be enough?
ME: You’ll need a radio each to communicate between yourselves.
HIM: How does that work?
ME: It’s like this telephone conversation… If you didn’t have a telephone how would you talk to me?
HIM: Oh, I see…!
A bloke near where I live is a Senior Observer with a leading motorcycle group. His nickname is ‘Crasher’ because, as the name suggests, he’s always smashing up bikes by riding too fast!
Why is it that you never see a biker keeping to the speed limit but they’re always the first to complain about the inadequacies of other road users? Have you noticed that these motorcycle accident blackspots are in places where bikers often ride erratically and exceed the speed limit?
Bob
Good and bad in all road user groups, bikers thick? maybe you need to be for a safe landing
but I often think that bike riders need the same road sense as truck drivers to dodge cars !
40yrs without landing on my arse or getting a speeding ticket… so far!
guess I must be thick and lucky
i’m a biker and regardless of where i’m going or what i’m doing or what type of vehicles are on the road or what type of drivers, new, old, experienced, professional, completely useless, i always have the intention of making them see me as much as i have seen them, at the end of the ride i want to get home without being hurt or damaged, to myself or other road users, after being knocked off 8 years ago and left for dead in the road by a driver who came down a slip road, inner ring road in leeds,didn’t use mirrors, didn’t indicate, came straight out to outside lane, clipped me, the driver did’t stop, never been found, i ended up with 6 inch gash in my neck, metal plate in wrist, plastic knuckles, pins and screws,12 inch gash to inner thigh, nerve damage, so on past experience… THINK BIKE is a good slogan
caledoniandream:
He drives on the right, in a left hand car, change direction, and change lane without due care and attention, GUILTY my lord.
He did checked, when he did, he saw in the mirror a lane of the cars following him and no sign of motorbike (propably he was hidden behind some cars, or he just went too fast).
Motorbiker should not be there at all in the first place - overtaking on the junction and before pedestrian crossing is illegal (at least in Poland)
As a biker myself
That, I think, explains why you find my friend guilty so easily…
waynedl:
And, I’m not being funny, you should be aware of a bike behind you before you turn, right or wrong, will you feel better knowing you weren’t in the wrong when you’ve a dead biker on your bonnet?
If the biker did not gave me a chance to see him (for example by doing 100 km/h in the town) I won’t cry after him…
phil the book:
Evidently that happened in Poland a lot of there lorry drivers are no good would you expect there car or motorbike riders to be any better .
Yet, the only accident I had (the guy ending up in my boot when I stopped for the red light) happened in Glasgow. Should I than draw a conclusion that all British drivers are imbeciles?
Think bike is a good slogan imo. Unforunately I think the majority of riders see this sign and assume that the person driving the car,truck etc has automatically seen them.
Had a tool on a scooter following me through heavy traffic a couple of weeks ago and the only reason I knew he was there was because I had my reversing camera on, on more than one occasion he almost splattered himself up the back of my tank.
phil the book:
Evidently that happened in Poland a lot of there lorry drivers are no good would you expect there car or motorbike riders to be any better .
Yet, the only accident I had (the guy ending up in my boot when I stopped for the red light) happened in Glasgow. Should I than draw a conclusion that all British drivers are imbeciles?
Take the chip off your shoulder,it’s making you walk with a limp.
waynedl:
And, I’m not being funny, you should be aware of a bike behind you before you turn, right or wrong, will you feel better knowing you weren’t in the wrong when you’ve a dead biker on your bonnet?
If the biker did not gave me a chance to see him (for example by doing 100 km/h in the town) I won’t cry after him…
Erm, in that accident, there’s no way he was doing 100km/h (62mph in England), or even 1/2 that I would say.
waynedl:
And, I’m not being funny, you should be aware of a bike behind you before you turn, right or wrong, will you feel better knowing you weren’t in the wrong when you’ve a dead biker on your bonnet?
If the biker did not gave me a chance to see him (for example by doing 100 km/h in the town) I won’t cry after him…
Erm, in that accident, there’s no way he was doing 100km/h (62mph in England), or even 1/2 that I would say.
In that one not. Off course. Yet he broke the law in four places…
phil the book:
Evidently that happened in Poland a lot of there lorry drivers are no good would you expect there car or motorbike riders to be any better .
Yet, the only accident I had (the guy ending up in my boot when I stopped for the red light) happened in Glasgow. Should I than draw a conclusion that all British drivers are imbeciles?
You can draw whatever conclusions you like you have opened a forum stating that you do not like an advertisment saying (think bike) by putting a download of by your own addmission a car driver who records himself driving because he has so many points and convictions he is paranoid and a biker who appears to be a stunt double for the muppets .Then you come on here saying you were struck from behind by some imbecile i agree there are quite a few over here the trouble is most of them are not British.
phil the book:
Evidently that happened in Poland a lot of there lorry drivers are no good would you expect there car or motorbike riders to be any better .
Yet, the only accident I had (the guy ending up in my boot when I stopped for the red light) happened in Glasgow. Should I than draw a conclusion that all British drivers are imbeciles?
You can draw whatever conclusions you like you have opened a forum stating that you do not like an advertisment saying (think bike) by putting a download of by your own addmission a car driver who records himself driving because he has so many points and convictions he is paranoid and a biker who appears to be a stunt double for the muppets .Then you come on here saying you were struck from behind by some imbecile i agree there are quite a few over here the trouble is most of them are not British.
