The tightest mains roads for HGV

Which stretch of road would u say is the scariest…+ tightest main roads for HGV’s…which test your deodorant…and require a nappy fitting before starting out…(no i’m not into any funny business…i’ll just mention before the comments come)…to the point where just think lorries shouldn’t be allowed along ere

So far it’s the A37 Shepton Mallet to Bristol…in the rush hr…with a full 38 or 44ton load (not sure of truck rating…but had to use 1st gear to pull off slight slope)…(few people late for work that morning)…nearly ended up completely blocking off the road with a another lorry travelling the opposite way…and the A470…up into the ■■■■■■■■ mountains…(Snowdonia)…to some village in the middle of nowhere…just to collect 3 bloody pallets…luckily it was a midnight run…

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Mont Cenis & Grand St Bernard on the Italian side for starters. Over the top of the Gotthard.Anywhere in Portugal before they had motorways.Roadworks in Germany can be hairy. That road from the A30 to Peters Marham clay pit is another.

Shepton Mallet is a doddle. Try some of the A roads around Welshpool. THere’s one I tried on the way from Welshpool to Newport. You come to a small town with a bridge over a river which forms a S bend. On the bridge where you turn right onto it, there’s blocks missing where people have hit it with the headboard and rear bumper. Once you cross the bridge you do a sharp left. Your unit has to be on the pavement on the right with your mirrors right up to the building and it’s only the trailer leaning as the inside wheels mount the kerb that stops it scraping the house on the corner.

harry:
Roadworks in Germany can be hairy.

:open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: Agreed!! :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

I used to do a run that included a Banja Luka - Mrkonic Grad - Sipovo - Sarajevo route; some hairy bits on that run!! Plenty of the problem was that locals just didn’t seem to understand how you need to swing out in an artic and how wide a truck is including the ones that they were driving!! I had a broken mirror and a torn curtain from them getting that close! :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

Yup some of the roads in shropshire are a nightmare .I used to multidrop in a rigid years ago round there .Some tips i had to phone them up and ask them to keep the road clear so i could reverse down with nothing to see in my mirrors except grass verge and bushes .Got right on my … :confused:

Roadworks in Germany can be hairy. The reason being that they are very narrow lanes ,very bendy ,very busy & very fast.

2 that spring to mind are the A373 from collumpton to honiton only ever done the M5 to honiton way and that was bloody tight with the midday shoppers thinking there trip out was far more important than me getting down the road.

and the A366 near shepton mallet or close to it,anyway some how managed to miss the sign saying unsuitable for hgv’s,only to find one hell a tight zig zag on the town lights,and on a steep hill to liven the trip up and its was persisting it down at the time which didnt do the drivers seat fabric any favours,any way got through it vowing never to go there again or the top one either.
plus any FARM track leading to your deliverey point?.

as coner put it try welshpool or measteg back to the M40 or head of valleys,anything painted red on your truck map in wales is small for vans never mind hgv’s.

mark

Yes i agree with Harry on the mont cenice on the italian side some of the corners were that tight that the cow catcher used to catch the road or as an irish lad once said the corner are that tight that you can see the top of your own fridge :open_mouth:

Heres the start of the mont cenis and two hours climb later the reward below coolair and no moskitoes im following a cadwalader i think


These are great snaps ,Klunk. When you took that break at the top you had earnt it !! :laughing: :laughing: The second time down there I had to pick up three or four drums of cable for Italy from the side of the road on the Steps which the previous driver had turned over & legged it back home. Because of a prob with the crane I had to go down the Steps turn round & come up again to load . They were going to load them upright again but I refused & laid them flat before going up the Steps again ,turning round & going down again. When I got to the bottom The Italians refused to let me on the Autostrada because the drums came outside the trailer. I went on the old road until the next autostrada entrance & did the rest of the trip on the autostrada’s… (Drivers today don’t know they’re born…:slight_smile: lol: :laughing:
That first snap…? Does that say MEAT’ at the bottom …? Meat for us was always Aosta…

SuperSmiley:
So far it’s the A37 Shepton Mallet to Bristol

:question: That’s a piece of [zb]! The really narrow bits have got special electronic signs to hold back the downhill large vehicles to allow the uphill ones through first.

You get a nice view of the Pensford Viaduct as well. I keep meaning to stop there for a pic when I do my diaries, but never had the opportunity.

harry:
Roadworks in Germany can be hairy. The reason being that they are very narrow lanes ,very bendy ,very busy & very fast.

Yep, I’d definitely agree with that. The contraflow switches are often the worst bits with a sharp bend and very bad adverse cambers. The driver of the other artic in the convoy got a bit of a fright when he went through one last May, and felt like he was going to roll. :open_mouth:

For me, in the UK (with my limited experience of truck driving), I’d go for the road from Swansea to Aberystwyth, or the Blackwall Tunnel (northbound) with traffic light enough that everyone’s going at the speed limit, but heavy enough so that the right-hand lane is always full of cars when you need to pull across to avoid clipping the nearside on the tunnel as you go around the corners.

Alternatively, pretty much every single road in central London.

Outside the UK, I’d go for the 57B/6 from Oravita to Orsova (Romania) - narrow and winding over the mountains, or the road from Prokuplije (sp?) to Pristina (Kosovo) - also narrow-ish, but in terrible condition, and with lots of fast nutters driving on it.

When I started reading the post I was thinking ‘Nothing could be as hair raising as the Mt Cenis’ and then there were the pics! :open_mouth:
My first drive over there in the early '80’s stuck in my memory so strongly it was the reason I wrote my first book.
Thanks for posting - it brought back great memories.

MrFlibble:

SuperSmiley:
So far it’s the A37 Shepton Mallet to Bristol

:question: That’s a piece of [zb]! The really narrow bits have got special electronic signs to hold back the downhill large vehicles to allow the uphill ones through first.

Really ? That’s news to me, I’ve never seen such a sign on that road.
The worst part is Farrington Gurney (heading towards Bristol), first dropping down and a tight LH bend into the village, then a fairly tight RH bend as you start to climb uphill but the roads only wide enough for 1 truck to pass (a car might just squeak past you depending on how far up you’ve got.)

mark croft:
the A373 from collumpton to honiton only ever done the M5 to honiton way and that was bloody tight with the midday shoppers thinking there trip out was far more important than me getting down the road.

Yeah, that’s a bit tight in places, the worst bit is climbing the hill through the trees and fog, quite a few milk wagons using that one.

I would have said my worst experiences have been roads in Cornwall.
Dropping down into St Austell on the B3274, you have to get around a blind RH hairpin into the town, and although YOU can see the cars coming up around the bend, they don’t use the shop windows as mirrors so they just have to slam on the brakes, then reverse back to get out of the way of the trailer. Had fun with a 40’ container there a few weeks ago.

Another good one was a road in the Forest of Dean near Lower Soudley. Had to take a wagon and drag to a private address with 24 T of roof tiles on. When I found the place (on the side of a valley) the house was about 100 feet higher up the valley than the road was, and they said " we’ve had lorries up here before" ! The “track” leading to the house was 2 dirt furrows surrounded by ferns on a 60 degree side to side slope. Needless to say, I made my excuses and took the load to the builder merchants in Coleford they had ordered through. I didn’t have my camera then, as that would have made a nice “Don’t do this !” photo.

Another Welsh one was after going to Abergavenny with an artic full of tiles. Missed the turn coming back out after tipping the load and headed off the wrong way up the A40. I realised quite soon and after looking at the map decided to take the A4077 to cut back down to the A465 and then onto the A40 again. Fine until I actually reached the turn off for the 4077 in Crickhowell. Narrow road through the town and slightly back on yourself as you turn left in to a fairly narrow junction. Just made it round (using the LH pavement for the trailer to get round) and lo and behold 100 yards later, a stone bridge over a river with a bend to the right halfway across. Just squeaked through that, and thought I would be alright from there on. It was a bit country laney, but no real issues until about quarter of a mile from the A465. Suddenly reached a bridge with a sign saying “Maximum Weight 7.5 T” ! Oh, bugger, just pretend you didn’t see it and hope. Fortunately it didn’t break :smiling_imp:

Oh, I almost forgot - Anybody ever been to Decoy Ind. Est. in Newton Abbot ? You can’t get there except along a narrow lane with a humpback bridge, cars using the lane as a rat run, and the estate itself has so many parked cars along both sides, it’s pretty much drive in and “hopefully” reverse out. I was there in a TNT artic yesterday, and the “turning” area at one end of the road had cars and vans parked in the centre of it, with cars (half on the pavement) lining the edge of the road all the way around the outside. I had to wait 15 minutes for some idiot to move his van from the centre before I could get round without taking out a BMW and an Alfa with the unit. Great fun.

These bridge weight limits. The way I look at it you can double it because if you have 7.5t coming one way & 7.5t coming the other that makes it 15t. Got lost in the fog one winter in Yugo in the middle of the night. No place to turn; 3t narrow wooden bridge !!! I had 32t on 5 axles. I kept blinking , hoping it was marked 30t but it wasn’t so I crossed. I slept well that night…& knocked a valve out outside Lubiana Football Stadium where I remained without heat in December for a week… Could have been worse it could of popped on the bridge…:laughing:

harry:
These bridge weight limits. The way I look at it you can double it because if you have 7.5t coming one way & 7.5t coming the other that makes it 15t. Got lost in the fog one winter in Yugo in the middle of the night. No place to turn; 3t narrow wooden bridge !!! I had 32t on 5 axles. I kept blinking , hoping it was marked 30t but it wasn’t so I crossed. I slept well that night…& knocked a valve out outside Lubiana Football Stadium where I remained without heat in December for a week… Could have been worse it could of popped on the bridge…:laughing:

LOL, bridges eh :smiley:
I had one on dartmoor once, with a kink 2/3 of the way across. It was fine going one way, but could I get back out … The only way was a 10 mile detour in the opposite direction (after I shaved a couple of mill off one of the indicator lenses against the parapet trying to get across). Another driver tried it in the same vehicle and ended up reversing about a mile … blind due to the hedges either side !

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MrFlibble:
The really narrow bits have got special electronic signs to hold back the downhill large vehicles to allow the uphill ones through first.

Really ? That’s news to me, I’ve never seen such a sign on that road.

Maybe I’m thinking of somewhere else. Narrow uphill bit, where the buildings are right at the edge of the road, and just bendy enough that you can’t see through. Electronic signs to warn downhill traffic of large vehicles coming uphill, and to hold them back. I think the place name is 4 letters.

Anyone have any idea where I’m thinking about?

Well the four letters is easy enough.But maybe its just the name the drivers called it ■■ :laughing:

Sorry to put the topic back a bit but i see the mont cenis mentioned a few times i bet Harry will remember the restaurant in Suza where we used to wait until the heat went out of the air so the truck did,nt overheat usually about 9 or 10 pm and after quite a good meal and bevy to get up first before them mad Tally and Kermit milk tanker drivers then also the Cloggy lads running the live pigs from Holland . :smiley:
sorry to have a nostalgic rant but those day have gone forever

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any one know why a pig has big ears

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Any one know the answer

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any one know why a pig has big ears

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Any one know the answer

cos Noddy won’t pay the ransom ?

Well ,Klunk I used to like to do that descent into Italy in the daylight so I used to stop for a break & get on with it. But you are right ,those days are gone. I am thinking of taking a car over there just for a trip down memory lane ,going on all the old roads out of Calais ,down toParis & Route National all the way. Funny thing is that I don’t really want to take a car to Italy .Have to get to the bottom,turn around, then find a place to stay up the hill. :laughing:
(((PS . What about that pig that wouldn’t eat Muslims.■■?)))) :unamused: :unamused:

Sorry Denis not telling you the answer yet :slight_smile:
But just reading Harrys topic of asleep at the wheel his last posting reminded me of the old route to the mont blanc before all these lovely moterways that we drive there now on there was a couple of real tight bits dodgeing the jutting out rocks and the oncoming trafic while climing as well