THE PDU-UK "Q&A"

UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUMS THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE)
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FH12guy:

Lucy:
As a final point, a proper reading of the above links will show that taking money in the form of a membership fee counts as “fundraising”, which is where you could potentially come unstuck. Scrap the fee and then yes, you would be correct in thinking you don’t need accounts, as there is then nothing to account for.

And on that note, I shall bid you goodnight. What can I say? I tried. I’ve no idea why, like, but I did. :neutral_face:

I think you will find that he is selling welcome packs that he has to declare that income, either as a sole trader or as an incorporated body- legally there is no dead ground in between to hide in like he claims

Incorrect, I have checked

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Barrie Tozer:
Funny how you also mange to fail to reply to a simple question

oh the irony just gets better and better

Barrie Tozer:
Lucy
Always happy to accept advice which is why the PDU will improve as time moves on
but sorry in this circumstance you are wrong,but happy to see what you post.

PS, edit to add I am keeping accounts in case there is any need to show them

I’ve bitten my tongue long enough and have asked a few questions that have been totally ignored, like numerous others on here, as the questions are obviously above you, which is a shock as you really are out of this world.

Do you actually read the ■■■■■ you are posting Barry? First of all you say about someone not answering a simple question…………

Erm….pot this is kettle, what colour are you?

And then Lucy offers you some sound advice, from her past experience of non-profit organisations, that YOU say yours is and then you just throw it back in her face by saying you’re wrong.

Then you edit the post to say you are keeping accounts just in case they need to be seen?

You really do need to have a read through the crap you are posting and sort your head out, I presume for this to be done would take more than a week or two.

People offer you advice from experience and you say you want the PDU to grow, like a baby, with the support of the people around it. How the hell can your baby even learn to crawl when the biggest baby of them all does not accept a few questions during a Q & A session or advice from knowledgeable people, that by the way could possibly open more doors for you with just a phone call than your sordid attempts at letter writing and grovelling.

The reason the PDU WILL fail is you Barry. Nobody has got the time of day for you as you have the attitude of my way or it’s not happening. If I don’t get my way I’m taking my ball in and it’s my party and I can cry if I want to.

In my opinion you would be better retiring from campaigning and handing everything over to someone else very soon and maybe, just maybe the PDU, can start to grow, but with you at the helm I think isis has more chance of recruiting from the royal marines than you have of recruiting gullible followers for your crusade.

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Barrie Tozer:

Mike-C:

Barrie Tozer:
PS, edit to add I am keeping accounts in case there is any need to show them

Theres a need to file them, and a deadline. Which if you havn’t met, wether any tax is due or not you’ll get a fine for. And i’ll be suprised if by now, given the amount of people you claim want to shut you down , one of them hasn’t notified the HMRC of your revenue from subs and advertising.

Please do and ensure to inform all on here your reply
Quite happy for you to make more a fool of yourself

I’m not that way natured Barrie and i’m not vindictive at all. I have no interest in being a help in your downfall, you’re doing a great job yourself. So please don’t challenge me again to do that. You do what you like with the advice you’re given, you usually do.

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Barrie Tozer:
My name is Barrie Tozer.
I have asked Rikki his permission to allow this so you and I can have a “Question & Answer” session about the PDU-UK. If need be the original format with a subscription and reasons for needing a subscription and its closure, and also the new format

In a very short time there has been much comment on the PDU-UK in previous threads, and on FB, some true and some not so true, so the only way you can consider its merit or not is to answer your questions to hopefully inform you correctly, so we can achieve the aims of the PDU.

I will answer your questions about the PDU-UK with honesty and to the best of ability.

I will NOT answer questions of no relevance or of past events between TN & TW, the past is the past.

“Tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your lives”

So the future is what is important not the past.

I will respect this forum, respect you and try to answer your questions, I ask you offer the same respect. Admin will no doubt watch closely and I hope remove irrelevant content rather than close to allow a good discussion and to keep on track.

The PDU-UK is about unity of UK Truckers.

I cannot be on here 24/7 so please allow time to reply.

A summary of some questions and answers over Sat & Sun has been place on page 19

newmercman, I don’t see anything saying “if you don’t like me, leave me alone!”
He offered the chance to put right the “lies” that had been told about him. He had no intention of answering questions, he just bullied the admin into allowing him a free advertising campaign on the largest online driver community.
He got called out on it.

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Barrie Tozer:
Do you honestly think I would still be going after 14 years if things were not legal and accounted

With just the amount of back stabbers on here I would have been in trouble before now.

Some of us do checks and ensure things are in place first

Yes i do honestly think that. And i’ll tell you why, you’ve come here to rebuff claims of “its your pension pot” and you havn’t rebuffed them at all. All you’ve said is there’s no need for accounts. There is no such thing as “no need for accounts”.

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Barrie Tozer:
Unincorporated association
An ‘unincorporated association’ is an organisation set up through an agreement between a group of people who come together for a reason other than to make a profit.
You don’t need to register an unincorporated association, and it doesn’t cost anything to set one up.
Individual members are personally responsible for any debts and contractual obligations.

now that is a worrying statement with you at the helm.

do all your members know about this? I’m guessing they don’t?

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newmercman:
I have only skimmed through this, so I may have missed a few things, .

Nah, not much. You’re the sober guy just come in the bar at midnight. We’re all half shot.

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This whole thread is now boring and very repetitive and I wish I could ignore it and go watch paint dry, but I keep coming back to it :frowning:

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newmercman:
I have only skimmed through this, so I may have missed a few things, but randomly selecting pages and reading the posts tell me that I may not be far from the truth when I say that this whole thread is a complete gong show.

Here is a bloke who is trying to buck the trend of “drivers will never stick up for each other” and put together something that with the right support, could actually make some positive changes in the industry. Yet all he’s getting is a load of grief!

I know there is a bit of history surrounding truckersworld etc, but has anybody considered that Barry may have learned from his past mistakes and have a better plan now? Billionaire Richard Branson cocked it up a few times before he got it right. Donald Trump has several bankruptcies behind him and he’s now a billionaire running for President of the USA.

In the first posts Barry asked for posts from people who were interested only, as this would be helpful for all concerned, instead the keyboard warriors started with their old ■■■■■■■■ and it’s now nothing more than a farce.

You do know that it is possible to read something you don’t like and not type a response don’t you?

I bet the poor bloke is wondering why he even bothers trying to make a difference, it’s bloody embarrassing.

Careful buddy

You actually said something nice about me :smiley:

The hounds are turning on you already :cry:

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raymundo:
This whole thread is now boring and very repetitive and I wish I could ignore it and go watch paint dry, but I keep coming back to it :frowning:

Its all because people like you won’t pay five pounds and support Unity for truckers. You think we’d be having this conversation if we had 200 in the Unity ?

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Mike-C:

Barrie Tozer:
Do you honestly think I would still be going after 14 years if things were not legal and accounted

With just the amount of back stabbers on here I would have been in trouble before now.

Some of us do checks and ensure things are in place first

Yes i do honestly think that. And i’ll tell you why, you’ve come here to rebuff claims of “its your pension pot” and you havn’t rebuffed them at all. All you’ve said is there’s no need for accounts. There is no such thing as “no need for accounts”.

Wrong again

I have said there is no need to produce accounts to all the hounds who have been asking on here

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newmercman:
In the first posts Barry asked for posts from people who were interested only, as this would be helpful for all concerned, instead the keyboard warriors started with their old ■■■■■■■■ and it’s now nothing more than a farce.

You do know that it is possible to read something you don’t like and not type a response don’t you?

Yeh, my thoughts also.
If somebody had started a thread ‘Morris dancing for truckers’’ looking for members, I would think …‘‘Nah, not for me’’ I would leave it free for those potentially interested, not feel the need to maintain 20+ pages slagging the organiser off, …even if we had some kind of history, what’s the ■■■■ point ffs.

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The Sarge:

Barrie Tozer:
My name is Barrie Tozer.
I have asked Rikki his permission to allow this so you and I can have a “Question & Answer” session about the PDU-UK. If need be the original format with a subscription and reasons for needing a subscription and its closure, and also the new format

In a very short time there has been much comment on the PDU-UK in previous threads, and on FB, some true and some not so true, so the only way you can consider its merit or not is to answer your questions to hopefully inform you correctly, so we can achieve the aims of the PDU.

I will answer your questions about the PDU-UK with honesty and to the best of ability.

I will NOT answer questions of no relevance or of past events between TN & TW, the past is the past.

“Tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your lives”

So the future is what is important not the past.

I will respect this forum, respect you and try to answer your questions, I ask you offer the same respect. Admin will no doubt watch closely and I hope remove irrelevant content rather than close to allow a good discussion and to keep on track.

The PDU-UK is about unity of UK Truckers.

I cannot be on here 24/7 so please allow time to reply.

A summary of some questions and answers over Sat & Sun has been place on page 19

newmercman, I don’t see anything saying “if you don’t like me, leave me alone!”
He offered the chance to put right the “lies” that had been told about him. He had no intention of answering questions, he just bullied the admin into allowing him a free advertising campaign on the largest online driver community.
He got called out on it.

As I said Sarge, I haven’t read it all, far too much to take in and it won’t help me one little bit if the PD whatever it is called gets everything it asks for and drivers are chauffeured to the lorries in gold plated Rolls Royces, but from the random pages I selected, I read from them that it was not going too well for Mr T.

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I know that technically this is no longer a Q&A, but before this gets locked, can I ask a serious question?

I know you’ve stated that you won’t reveal membership numbers “for good reason”, and if I’ve understood this right it’s because you don’t want anyone you may be involved in discussions with knowing these numbers?

However, if I sign up - pay my £5 - I can obtain these numbers?

What’s to stop those you don’t want knowing paying a fiver and finding out?

Do you carry out background checks, ask for proof of employment, dcpc numbers, or am I missing something here?

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Mike-C:

newmercman:
I have only skimmed through this, so I may have missed a few things, .

Nah, not much. You’re the sober guy just come in the bar at midnight. We’re all half shot.

I best start supping then [emoji1]

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Comments in this thread are dangerously close to making allegations of avoiding tax/illegal acts. giving advice on such matters is one thing, please do not overstep the mark and allege anything more than that as it will be removed

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robroy:

newmercman:
In the first posts Barry asked for posts from people who were interested only, as this would be helpful for all concerned, instead the keyboard warriors started with their old ■■■■■■■■ and it’s now nothing more than a farce.

You do know that it is possible to read something you don’t like and not type a response don’t you?

Yeh, my thoughts also.
If somebody had started a thread ‘Morris dancing for truckers’’ looking for members, I would think …‘‘Nah, not for me’’ I would leave it free for those potentially interested, not feel the need to maintain 20+ pages slagging the organiser off, …even if we had some kind of history, what’s the [zb] point ffs.

Even when you put the facts in front of their eyes they still will not take the answer.

Just one aim from most on here and the last topics was to insult, ridicule and undermine the PDU with a final ambition to see me lose and close it down

Well they will lose, some good members joining helping, offering advice and we are growing stronger

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jprioredi:
I know that technically this is no longer a Q&A, but before this gets locked, can I ask a serious question?

I know you’ve stated that you won’t reveal membership numbers “for good reason”, and if I’ve understood this right it’s because you don’t want anyone you may be involved in discussions with knowing these numbers?

However, if I sign up - pay my £5 - I can obtain these numbers?

What’s to stop those you don’t want knowing paying a fiver and finding out?

Do you carry out background checks, ask for proof of employment, dcpc numbers, or am I missing something here?

I don’t think you have to worry about that. would you seriously pay a fiver just to find out numbers?

by the way its not MI6

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My advice to you Barry, go and do your thing, make a difference and come back and say I told you so, then maybe the people against you just for the sake of it may have a change of heart.

Actions speak louder than words…

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Oh, and do you record all PDU work that you carry out in order to do a manual entry, or do you just leave the card in and set to other work? :wink: