And I am posting this to get the 700th reply 
Honked:
Well that turned out well.I honestly hope that someone with a bit more sense takes up this crusade, it is after all worthwhile. It doesn’t need to be a union, but a regulated and respected pressure group could do wonders for the industry.
But I thought that was the job of the RHA
The idea itself is a good one and I would support it with a trustworthy genuinely selfless candidate…
The Sarge:
Just as well barrie [zb] off. He’s been caught out in a blatant lie regarding whether the Facebook post that Mike C copied was from a closed or open group. As he said, proven liars have no place discussing PDU…
He did go rather quiet after MikeC’s revelations, didn’t he?
Well played, Mike … tis not all true what they say about scousers 
TheBear:
The Sarge:
Just as well barrie [zb] off. He’s been caught out in a blatant lie regarding whether the Facebook post that Mike C copied was from a closed or open group. As he said, proven liars have no place discussing PDU…He did go rather quiet after MikeC’s revelations, didn’t he?
Well played, Mike … tis not all true what they say about scousers
Yep agreed Bear… Hey where’s my car gone 
billybigrig:
TheBear:
The Sarge:
Just as well barrie [zb] off. He’s been caught out in a blatant lie regarding whether the Facebook post that Mike C copied was from a closed or open group. As he said, proven liars have no place discussing PDU…He did go rather quiet after MikeC’s revelations, didn’t he?
Well played, Mike … tis not all true what they say about scousersYep agreed Bear… Hey where’s my car gone
My car is still here but minus the bloody wheels!!!
You have cars in Lincolnshire ■■? thought you still used horses an carts on dirt tracks ! 
raymundo:
You have cars in Lincolnshire ■■? thought you still used horses an carts on dirt tracks !
The locals do … but I’m an illegal immigrant. I came here from Hampshire so swan around in a Range Rover
SHHHHH! Barrie the Fibber is lurking…
Probably taking screen shots to report us to the Interweb Police 
I’ve just spent an hour catching up on this. Worked Sunday etc.
This will be my last post on this thread!
This thread would be 15 pages less without the requotes 
If you are looking for a fault you will find it!
Skeletons in the cupboard will ALWAYS be there - no one is faultless!
Read responses fully, don’t miss words!
If you’re out then why stir it up?
Would the same people ask the same questions about accounts, memberships, the way forward/expansion etc. If they were joining a new sports club?
In principal I agree with Barrie’s proposals and expectations. He needs support/backing from other drivers ie committee! When a committee is formed, that is the point you discuss finances, membership and declarations. Then it can go for public/knockers scrutiny!
He has done quite a lot on his own! Just think what he could achieve with an elected backing of a chosen (by members) committee??
Although this thread did start to drag like a seals ringpeice the cut and thrust was very entertaining from an innocent observers point of view.
So, what exactly has he achieved “on his own”? Apart from one meeting with someone who told him to go and do more homework, and writing a letter that got someone some money?
Btw, most of the long quoted replies were his…
dri-diddly-iver:
I’ve just spent an hour catching up on this. Worked Sunday etc.This will be my last post on this thread!
This thread would be 15 pages less without the requotes
If you are looking for a fault you will find it!
Skeletons in the cupboard will ALWAYS be there - no one is faultless!
Read responses fully, don’t miss words!
If you’re out then why stir it up?Would the same people ask the same questions about accounts, memberships, the way forward/expansion etc. If they were joining a new sports club?
In principal I agree with Barrie’s proposals and expectations. He needs support/backing from other drivers ie committee! When a committee is formed, that is the point you discuss finances, membership and declarations. Then it can go for public/knockers scrutiny!
He has done quite a lot on his own! Just think what he could achieve with an elected backing of a chosen (by members) committee??
If he had come on here with even half of that, then he wouldn’t have gone home in a strop and maybe he would have bolstered his supporters a little.
He did however state that it would only continue with him at the helm, a rudderless ship with a drunken captain. It really could be a whole lot better, it really could develop into something meaningful, but as long as he is involved in it then it will never be anything more than a ■■■■ can in the corner of the pub rambling on.
I think that most, if not all on here agree in principle with his aims. I think most if not all agree that he is not the man to lead it.
Skeletons in the cupboard will ALWAYS be there - no one is faultless!
True no-one is faultless, but if he wants to be my spokesperson then he better have achieved something . he has had a number of schemes over the years , every one has failed.
fail once or even twice and learn I can understand - but he has failed to learn from his past mistakes and is embarking down the exact road to failure he has done every other time.
If I am joining any sort of club/organisation that is accepting my money I want to be sure it is led and governed well, by people with a proven track record- Mr Tozer does not have that record.
Successes:
Failures:
Truckers Moan,- campaigning organisation- failed rebranded as TruckersWorld
TruckersWorld - campaigning organisation - Failed withdrew from campaigning- now a barren website with next to no usage
PDU-UK (£25 subs) - failed not enough people believed in it
Drivers National Conference - Failed never took place
NOK cards- failed another group provided them for free
Theft text alert - failed no organisation would back it the DFT has serious reservations about LGV drivers receiving texts when driving
Truckers Club - failed- Barry claims it is a success, if so why isn’t it still running, fact is it never covered its costs
and my favourite the £100 DCPC- failed due to his figures simply not adding up and it being totally impossible to achieve
I am not slating the chap with no reason, he has a history of abject failure , and fails to take any lessons from those failures and simply tries the same old tactic again. This is why I have no confidence in the PDU under his leadership. I am not being nasty or mean to the chap just presenting his track record as a solid reason why I wont, and I encourage others not to join in his latest hair brained scheme
Rest assured if I see that his “PDU” has approached any official body, be it the DFT or RHA or any other and purports to speak on behalf of Drivers I will be e-mailing them to make it clear he does not represent me in any way shape or form
TheBear:
The Sarge:
Just as well barrie [zb] off. He’s been caught out in a blatant lie regarding whether the Facebook post that Mike C copied was from a closed or open group. As he said, proven liars have no place discussing PDU…He did go rather quiet after MikeC’s revelations, didn’t he?
Well played, Mike … tis not all true what they say about scousers
We’re experts at getting money off people, he’s only an amateur !! I did like him singing like a bird about what he’d done though…
I’m wondering if he saved his snapshot in his gallery, emailed it or just deleted it. I get bogged down with trivia like that.
quote … ‘rudderless ship with a drunken captain’.
That’s been me on more than one occasion
dri-diddly-iver:
In principal I agree with Barrie’s proposals and expectations. He needs support/backing from other drivers ie committee! When a committee is formed, that is the point you discuss finances, membership and declarations. Then it can go for public/knockers scrutiny!He has done quite a lot on his own! Just think what he could achieve with an elected backing of a chosen (by members) committee??
Spot on. So how come he attracts so much negativity ? And do you guys not give him any advice that he listens to like, stop, think before you post, try to be a bit more this that, a bit less of this that and the other etc… does he listen ?
We all make mistakes, we’re all only human, we all say things we should not have done or regret saying. He’s making a hobby out of it and not learning.
Mike-C:
We all make mistakes, we’re all only human, we all say things we should not have done or regret saying. He’s making a hobby out of it and not learning.
Sometimes the reputation of someone is so toxic that no matter what they do, no matter how beneficial it will be, the mere fact they are associated with it at all regardless of their position means that that organisation is on a loser whilst that person continues to be a part of it. Barry has done enough in the past over the years to be that person and some of his replies in this thread are a taster of what he has done and what he has been like. The PDU-UK could be the second coming of Christ but there are that many people online whose backs he has got up and people whose money he has taken and not delivered on promises made for whatever reason that it is basically a non-starter.
Mike-C:
dri-diddly-iver:
In principal I agree with Barrie’s proposals and expectations. He needs support/backing from other drivers ie committee! When a committee is formed, that is the point you discuss finances, membership and declarations. Then it can go for public/knockers scrutiny!He has done quite a lot on his own! Just think what he could achieve with an elected backing of a chosen (by members) committee??
Spot on. So how come he attracts so much negativity ? And do you guys not give him any advice that he listens to like, stop, think before you post, try to be a bit more this that, a bit less of this that and the other etc… does he listen ?
We all make mistakes, we’re all only human, we all say things we should not have done or regret saying. He’s making a hobby out of it and not learning.
Of course we all make mistakes. Not one of us is perfect but a few think they are. The problem with that man is he doesn’t want to listen to anyone he thinks he knows it all yet he set up this group in 3 different formats one after the other in less that a year He should have done his research before he set it up oh but he did on TW and had few takers so moved it to social media thinking this would be grand. His group page is dire he posts rarely any useful information about the PDU ot anything but spends a lot of time begging people to join up and pay their cash and slagging off those who have disagreed with him and blocked many who asked pertinent questions.
It is not the cash that is the problem it is the man himself He came here and had had a wonderful opportunity to really get us interested in joining the PDU or at least supporting it in some way but his refusal to answer poster he does not like and those who asked questions he couldn’t answer so posted the same amswer to many questions which were not relevant. Debate he cannot hack discussion he cannot hack because that means there are differing opinions and he does not like that.
He should have prepared for the questions and have had them to hand but no. He is not never was and never will be professional in whatever he does. He is a poor communicator to fellow drivers I cannot speak for meetings he attended but from Burnett’s reply I don’t think he did too well. Mr Burnett gave him a list of stuff to do before he saw him again this should have been done before he went to the meeting.
That is the long and short of it. I think the idea is good in some ways but he calls it a unity while he really wants a union. A unity no matter how many members will be like a paper tiger useless. It will have no clout as it is not registered as anything union charity business take your pick. He has no idea what it is as shown by his answers.
We all want what is best for ourselves and I feel that having Mr Tozer as a representative would put us back years and years as no 0ne in any kind of authority will take a group run from his home seriously. He has no strategy wll will be done on an ad hoc basis which is very unprofessional. He will not represent me and I also will make it know that he doesnt speak for me amd many others will do the same.
I want an articulate intelligent communicator to be my representative not an inarticuate person who cannot take criticism even when it is constructive.
Someone who opens his books and does not secrete them away from sight. and I would join like a flash as would many others.
I understand why some folks want this thread locked, and I have given serious consideration to doing so.
Without divulging private communication I will say that I advised against this thread being posted at all , but as long as it remained within our guidelines then I would not stop it. I will say that the original version of the opening post was refused as it breached our guidelines and this thread is a revised version of the original request
Now it is posted the Genie is out of the bottle- locking it now just because its uncomfortable for some would lead us to yet again being called out for stifling discussion. As long as the discussion stays civil then it will remain unlocked.
I have tried to remain neutral throughout this thread despite some strong provocation. I will endeavour to continue to do so
Reading between the lines do we now have the two top people of Trucknet maybe saying what a lot of others are while trying to stay neutral ■■