ALSO in Germany you must take the course in German even if you are not a German passport holder, No other language is allowed,
THAT AIN’T RIGHT,over here if you speak another language you will still be able to do the course as long as you give the training school proper notice so as they can make special arrangements,this also apply’s to people who are dyslexic.
welshboyinspain:
as a johnny foreigner i asked mt boss about driver cpc and he has no idea what i was talking about!
mind you we don’t worry about periods of availability either because when europe brings out a rule most countries with a backbone say up yours whereas new labour say oh yes please mr europe how far do you want us to jump?
Believe me he does know about, what he doesn´t want to tell you James is that he is not going to pay it.
In Spain it has to be done at an approved driving school, in huse training not permitted
Cost between 1400 and 1600 euros.
brit pete:
every one is free to pick and chose where they do the CPC COURSES;
does this mean that they choose the place of their own free will Pete ? or would they be obliged to go via Luxembourg ? 
@Vascoingles, Thanks now that is a idea as I can take the courses here in German as well
Vascoingles:
Believe me he does know about, what he doesn´t want to tell you James is that he is not going to pay it.
In Spain it has to be done at an approved driving school, in huse training not permitted
Cost between 1400 and 1600 euros.
WTF! thats horrendous amount
The cost is high, there is no denying that, factor in the JAUPT fees, the cost of hiring a centre and paying the staff, its not going to be cheap
We all may not like the drivers CPC, and I am certainly not a great fan of it in its present form, But it is a fact of life You can either bury your head in the sand and ignore it or just get on with it, . This isnt going to go away, If you dont take the courses then you lose the entitlement to drive trucks to earn a living
I can understand the anger that you all feel at being asked to pay for this, but in actuality what is happening is companies are signing up to train their employees and paying the fees, drivers are not being asked to pay themselves.
Looking around the internet these courses go from £50 to £160.
We believe our prices for this course are just about half way between the top end and the bottom end of the current market e.g realistic
If you dont agree then dont take our course and go elswhere, You have that choice. Along with many other providers we are simply offering the training that has been imposed.
dazaster:
lets hope the wheels dont come off the track…btw do overseas drivers also have to undertake this course, and if not how can they drive in this counrty without one in 5 years time??
Will the east european drivers be able to return to their home country and buy it for £20.00, just like they did for their class 1?
Rikki-UK:
but in actuality what is happening is companies are signing up to train their employees and paying the fees, drivers are not being asked to pay themselves.
That may be true for the larger companies but is not likely to happen in smaller companies and super unlikely to happen with agencies.
swordtail:
Why does anybody have to pay to do there job? if they want to bring new rules and training to do the job fair enough but the costs should be met by the employer or the body who implemented it not the bloody Driver! I would have thought boycotting this whole thing would have made more sense. What will they do take everyone’s licence away! When the shops are empty and the people are angry may be this would not even come about. It hasn’t been needed before so why now? Just another money spinner/tax why stand for it!
I agree entirely with Swordtail - Boycott the bloody thing. Its worse than useless and very probably the thin end of a very nast expensive wedge as well.
Whilst I understand TNUK advertising it to pay for upkeep of this forum, I really think that they/we should be organising a campaign of mass disobedience by refusing point blank to co-operate.
The current contention that we “should just get on with it as it is not going to go away” is yet another example of how this industry just rolls over and gets shafted by those who think they know best and in reality know bugger all - politicians.
Rikki-UK:
We all may not like the drivers CPC, and I am certainly not a great fan of it in its present form, But it is a fact of life You can either bury your head in the sand and ignore it or just get on with it, . This isnt going to go away, If you dont take the courses then you lose the entitlement to drive trucks to earn a living.
Well if every one who is sponsoring “the big train” got together with the help of others, things could have been different
Hombre:
‘…I really think that they/we should be organising a campaign of mass disobedience by refusing point blank to co-operate … The current contention that we “should just get on with it as it is not going to go away” is yet another example of how this industry just rolls over and gets shafted by those who think they know best and in reality know bugger all - politicians…’
I’m curiously wondering what our UKIP MEP’s advise: Is it worth canvassing their support since I’ll wager that the master-plan will have a ‘Euro-flaw’ for us to niggle at?
(I’m likely to be ‘paid-for’ by my agency/sole client but I feel the pending pain for smaller dude/operators).
dean0:
Well if every one who is sponsoring “the big train” got together with the help of others, things could have been different
Too late - the horse has bolted - no point in shutting the stable door now!!
IF anything was to be done to stop this then it needed to be done at least 2 years ago
ROG:
dean0:
Well if every one who is sponsoring “the big train” got together with the help of others, things could have been differentToo late - the horse has bolted - no point in shutting the stable door now!!
IF anything was to be done to stop this then it needed to be done at least 2 years ago
thats why i said COULD. 
tw has been trying for a long time to stop this but the big boys didn’t want to know, probably because they could see more money in the training side of it. instead of helping drivers.
dean0:
the big boys didn’t want to know
Perhaps because it required lobbying to the European Parliament and possibly their intent was to lobby the UK Government which would be a waste of time 
missed the word COULD sorry…
You can turn it round anyway you like but the fact remains that this so called forum “By Drivers For Drivers” and their masters have wasted no time jumping on the bandwagon to exploit the situation.
How does £113.85 a head per course help the small transport company or owner driver or driver looking for cheap courses ?
tachograph:
You can turn it round anyway you like but the fact remains that this so called forum “By Drivers For Drivers” and their masters have wasted no time jumping on the bandwagon to exploit the situation.How does £113.85 a head per course help the small transport company or owner driver or driver looking for cheap courses ?
No-one is forcing anyone to use the training offered by these adverts, It is a matter of choice. As I said a simple internet search will find some cheaper and some more expensive.
There are a myriad of these courses being offered, Some by Training companes, some by haulage companies even the manufacturers are offering these courses… there is plenty of choice out there, go choose the one that suits you the best, or even dont do it at all. It is entirely your choice.
i have see courses advertised at 40 pounds and as much as 350 pounds per 7 hours plus vat and upload fee. it all depends on what you want to do, or the company, if you are the one paying then you chose the price and course that you can afford and if your firm are paying site back and enjoy the the day or you could go to sleep if you so desire as there say its your choice
delboytwo:
i have see courses advertised at 40 pounds and as much as 350 pounds per 7 hours plus vat and upload fee. it all depends on what you want to do, or the company, if you are the one paying then you chose the price and course that you can afford and if your firm are paying site back and enjoy the the day or you could go to sleep if you so desire as there say its your choice
Renault Trucks Optifuel Training
£540/day 
Rikki-UK:
The cost is high, there is no denying that, factor in the JAUPT fees, the cost of hiring a centre and paying the staff, its not going to be cheap
Where the hell does he get this from
It cost £1.25 to enter each Drivers hours on the database.
A classroom, less than £100 to hire for the day
Instructor lets say £100 for 8hrs
Total for 30 Drivers = £275
Income at £99 per driver = £2970
Profit a staggering = £2695
Danny27404:
£99 for 7 of 35 hours training? did i read that right? If my employer wont pay which i dont think he is i’ll have made a job position available for someone, That means every 5 years its going to cost me hundreds to keep my licence for watching a powerpoint presentation telling me how to drive when i passed my test years ago although i did just drop my trailer on its arse only a few hours ago but we have all done that? I’m confused over this cpc thing anyways. Am i right in what i just put?
I worked in Garage as HGV Mechanic and started driving for the Money i earn,not to pay.
Just remember when Irland got some Industry,that Driver left the Cab and went with Wife in Factury working.They had cheap Meals,were each Night at Home,and had more Money in Pocket and no trouble with Authority about of any the Law you have to know better than an Advocat.
Well,who says i shall drive in a fife Years Time?
Doing the CPC to take the Resposibility away from Company,who have the Power and cheap Staff?
I have Clarksons Words in my Ear “I don’t think so!”
