Foden wheel studs used to snap like carrots, I remember about 12 years ago coming back to Matlock from South Wigston with three in a row broken off on the nearside front wheel. I belted the rest with a hammer before setting off and they stayed put so risked it but it wasn’t unusual to see the odd stud missing when waiting to load or tip but we usually completed the days work ok. Did have a few truck’s lose wheels on the M1 etc, I went out to a loaded Foden half cab of ours that lost a pair of rears near Newport Pagnell, he had a vibration for several miles and then it stopped, that was when he pulled onto the hard shoulder to investigate! Never did find the old wheels, they could have been ten miles back, but we put a fresh hub and wheels on and away he went. Sometimes, if it was a second axle, we chained the axle up to get it home.
Indeed. The driver is a ■■■■■■■ tool to even think about taking that out. No wonder we have the likes of ole bill and VOSA breathing down our necks if this is the standard of "professionalism " shown by some drivers out there.
I would have blocked him so he could not move,and phone the number on the truck, as when it comes off it can kill, and looking at it from my mechanic/engineering days it won,t be long before that wheel is off.
I worked for turners, and they would not have a problem with someone ringing them,they were strict on maintenance and defects
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I would have blocked him so he could not move,and phone the number on the truck, as when it comes off it can kill, and looking at it from my mechanic/engineering days it won,t be long before that wheel is off.
I worked for turners, and they would not have a problem with someone ringing them,they were strict on maintenance and defects
Thats what i was thinking but didn’t wana say. I also worked on these things for a living once. As you say, it wouldn’t be long before thats off! There was a pedestrian killed by a front wheel coming off a truck in Lostwithiel in Cornwall a few years back let alone all the implications if it came off on a DC or motorway.
Looking at the photo the other studs look as though they are loose going by the marks on the wheel. But I drove a Leyland Clydesdale on milk collection and this wee motor broke wheelstuds for a hobby only on the front we never found out if it was due to the surging of the load or potholes but in every case the one stud broke but every other stud was tight so the popular misconseption on here that if one is broken the rest must be loose is wrong. Eddie.
I doubt anyone agrees with me but I think this is an example of why the DCPC ‘can’ be a good thing.
I cover wheel nuts & wheel loss in quite some depth on some DCPC courses and i would like to think a driver such as this would have a better idea what to look for, how important it is and maybe understand that wheels do come loose and what those yellow plastic things are etc. if he attended such a course.
Yes it is showing something that to most is completely obvious, but most courses when I ask for a show of hands if anyone has lost a wheel - there’s usually one or two so it does happen. I’ve had a surprising amount of drivers say “Oh yeah - that makes sense” when I show them examples of ‘witness marks’, rust stains, shiny bits that shouldn’t be etc
This post has made it quite clear that this driver either just didn’t understand/know or just didn’t give a toss.
The DSA reckons there are about 750,000 - 850,000 active drivers in the UK. lets hope this guy is an example of less than 1% of them
I used to work and thing like Seddon Atkinson 401 and 411s. We would tap the wheel nuts on inspection and some would just fall on the floor.
We tryed all sorts, changed the hub, change the drum, fitted 10 new studs and nut, even changed one stud each side of the broken one. And they would sill snap off on on the same units.
shep532:
I doubt anyone agrees with me but I think this is an example of why the DCPC ‘can’ be a good thing.
I cover wheel nuts & wheel loss in quite some depth on some DCPC courses and i would like to think a driver such as this would have a better idea what to look for, how important it is and maybe understand that wheels do come loose and what those yellow plastic things are etc. if he attended such a course.
Yes it is showing something that to most is completely obvious, but most courses when I ask for a show of hands if anyone has lost a wheel - there’s usually one or two so it does happen. I’ve had a surprising amount of drivers say “Oh yeah - that makes sense” when I show them examples of ‘witness marks’, rust stains, shiny bits that shouldn’t be etc
This post has made it quite clear that this driver either just didn’t understand/know or just didn’t give a toss.
No I don’t agree with you… the DCPC is a complete ■■■■ take in it’s present form but seeing as you have evidently got a new career out of it your opinion is bound to be biased. The driver of said motor is obviously a complete tool, DCPC or any other money making pseudo “professional qualification” legislation will never be able to educate complete idiots, and if what you say is true about some driver’s responses about signs of loose wheel nuts it seems like you have been attempting to do just that.
i had a wheel stud break on my unit on thursday morning, called boss and told him, he in turn called the grease monkey who came with 10 shiney new wheel studs and fitted them, was off the road for about 3 hours but better that than killing someone.
wrighty:
Wheel nuts do snap off I had a 113 that regularly lost n/s/f studs,apparantly the rule is if you lose 1 you replace the other nine at the same time. Once went into Scania at Lutterworth to have the front wheel re torqued, and the fitter snapped a stud tightening it up, and would you believe it they did`nt have another 1 in stock !
Having said that it definately looks like he`s not done his daily checks properly.
Yes we had 113s and the only one we had could snap wheel studs but out off 3 112s they was ok. again on service check the wheel nuts and one mainly the N/S one would bloody snap off on a sat afternoon just before we was to finish.
It has 10 for a reason! Had several come loose on trailers but never a unit. Coaxed one into sandbach on a tandem that when I stopped only had 4 left on the rear axle. Very lucky me thinks
Given the slack attitude of the driver, I would have definately informed turners. The guy clearly didn’t care from what the OP says.
I had a wheel come loose myself many years ago through my own carefree attitude at the time. Needless to say, I always do checks now.
If you have his details then get him shopped!
JellyFox:
To be honest he didn’t seem that bothered, just looked at and said oh…be a different story if it flies off and kills somebody.
If you pointed it out to him and he wasn’t interested , phone vosa or the old bill immediatly,and block him in if neccessary, we don’t want this kind ,truck driving.
why didn’t you offer to help him fix the problem?
didn’t you offer to lend him your wheel brace?
and all this crap about turners not allowing drivers to change so much as a bulb can only be a load of [zb].
it’s a drivers job to change bulbs, and check his wheel nuts. without spare bulbs, and a wheel brace he can’t do his job.
you can’t even do a complete daily check without a wheel brace.
Sometimes, if it was a second axle, we chained the axle up to get it home.
