blue estate:
Question for Smelly old driver and Jingle bells
Have either either of you transported large drums of cable ave 2.5 to 3.5 tons ?
How would you support and strap them down also how many straps per a drum would you use
Yes, I have… and you already know the answer… so stop asking silly questions.
What UKT was pointing to was a generalisation, there will always be exceptions… which he’s already touched on.
I used to deliver machines with anchor rings, made it simple… others had to strap or chain more creatively, I also used to rope n sheet… which could not be done from one side… see: common sense!!!
This is an answer to mine not Ukt’s question ! you’re not a MP so don’t skirt around the question with this answer or have you some thing to hide in you’re knowledge
Punchy Dan:
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Here’s a prime example of a load requiring straps pulling from both sides
No it isn’t. It’s a picture of a load that could easily be ratcheted from one side. The science of physics proves you wrong.
You just shown you know zb all ,that’s a load of plastic grass trays ,strapped from one side and they just tilt over ,theyed be over on the first corner .
Punchy Dan:
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Here’s a prime example of a load requiring straps pulling from both sides
No it isn’t. It’s a picture of a load that could easily be ratcheted from one side. The science of physics proves you wrong.
You just shown you know zb all ,that’s a load of plastic grass trays ,strapped from one side and they just tilt over ,theyed be over on the first corner .
No they don’t. You just make sure the straps are attached properly and all the slack is taken up before winding. Using long corner protection to equalise the stress from the straps.
Needless to say, one of the biggest issues with such a light product is not over tightening.
Punchy Dan:
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Here’s a prime example of a load requiring straps pulling from both sides
No it isn’t. It’s a picture of a load that could easily be ratcheted from one side. The science of physics proves you wrong.
You just shown you know zb all ,that’s a load of plastic grass trays ,strapped from one side and they just tilt over ,theyed be over on the first corner .
No they don’t. You just make sure the straps are attached properly and all the slack is taken up before winding. Using long corner protection to equalise the stress from the straps.
Needless to say, one of the biggest issues with such a light product is not over tightening.
Fwiw, I don’t drive. ■■■■■■.
Your talking ■■■■ ,I wouldn’t trust you with said vehicle .
blue estate:
Question for Smelly old driver and Jingle bells
Have either either of you transported large drums of cable ave 2.5 to 3.5 tons ?
How would you support and strap them down also how many straps per a drum would you use
Yes, I have… and you already know the answer… so stop asking silly questions.
What UKT was pointing to was a generalisation, there will always be exceptions… which he’s already touched on.
I used to deliver machines with anchor rings, made it simple… others had to strap or chain more creatively, I also used to rope n sheet… which could not be done from one side… see: common sense!!!
This is an answer to mine not Ukt’s question ! you’re not a MP so don’t skirt around the question with this answer or have you some thing to hide in you’re knowledge
blue estate:
Question for Smelly old driver and Jingle bells
Have either either of you transported large drums of cable ave 2.5 to 3.5 tons ?
How would you support and strap them down also how many straps per a drum would you use
Yes, I have… and you already know the answer… so stop asking silly questions.
What UKT was pointing to was a generalisation, there will always be exceptions… which he’s already touched on.
I used to deliver machines with anchor rings, made it simple… others had to strap or chain more creatively, I also used to rope n sheet… which could not be done from one side… see: common sense!!!
This is an answer to mine not Ukt’s question ! you’re not a MP so don’t skirt around the question with this answer or have you some thing to hide in you’re knowledge
blue estate:
Question for Smelly old driver and Jingle bells
Have either either of you transported large drums of cable ave 2.5 to 3.5 tons ?
How would you support and strap them down also how many straps per a drum would you use
Yes, I have… and you already know the answer… so stop asking silly questions.
What UKT was pointing to was a generalisation, there will always be exceptions… which he’s already touched on.
I used to deliver machines with anchor rings, made it simple… others had to strap or chain more creatively, I also used to rope n sheet… which could not be done from one side… see: common sense!!!
This is an answer to mine not Ukt’s question ! you’re not a MP so don’t skirt around the question with this answer or have you some thing to hide in you’re knowledge
Sorry, I don’t know which language you are using.
Queens English , just answer my question properly or hasn’t your But buddy told you it yet
Punchy Dan:
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Here’s a prime example of a load requiring straps pulling from both sides
No it isn’t. It’s a picture of a load that could easily be ratcheted from one side. The science of physics proves you wrong.
You just shown you know zb all ,that’s a load of plastic grass trays ,strapped from one side and they just tilt over ,theyed be over on the first corner .
No they don’t. You just make sure the straps are attached properly and all the slack is taken up before winding. Using long corner protection to equalise the stress from the straps.
Needless to say, one of the biggest issues with such a light product is not over tightening.
Fwiw, I don’t drive. ■■■■■■.
Your talking [zb] ,I wouldn’t trust you with said vehicle .
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This is a very simple fact. When you wind a properly secured strap… the laws of physics mean the pressure is equal on both sides… it pulls in from both sides … not in the direction of the ratchet… if you find that is happening… you are doing it wrong. End .!
Punchy Dan:
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Here’s a prime example of a load requiring straps pulling from both sides
No it isn’t. It’s a picture of a load that could easily be ratcheted from one side. The science of physics proves you wrong.
You just shown you know zb all ,that’s a load of plastic grass trays ,strapped from one side and they just tilt over ,theyed be over on the first corner .
No they don’t. You just make sure the straps are attached properly and all the slack is taken up before winding. Using long corner protection to equalise the stress from the straps.
Needless to say, one of the biggest issues with such a light product is not over tightening.
Fwiw, I don’t drive. ■■■■■■.
And yet in your reply to me, at the top of this page…
Jingle Jon:
To be honest mate, I’ve never had sheet timber move. I strap it down real tight, using plenty of straps - then drive accordingly steady.
Your own words - so what are we to make of this admission?
Jingle Jon:
Sorry, I don’t know which language you are using.
Queens English , just answer my question properly or hasn’t your But buddy told you it yet
I beg to differ on the standard of your English.
You have a question?
I will ask you one more time !
How would you secure a 2.5 to 3.5t cable drum and what size bearers to use ?
If you don’t give me a straight answer then I will rename you Mr billy Jingle bells Bull
The mind boggles, It highlights just how some on here should not be let loose in a truck. No idea of loading and common sense, two basic requirements of being a driver. Only JJ and a couple of others have actually got the sense required to secure a load. I cannot believe how a sensible bit of advice turns into something that has provoked the know it all types and the complete idiots who are so clueless that they find the advice here so difficult to grasp. This was not a one size fits all scenario and an element of common sense was expected to prevail. It is not surprising that this industry has been pulled down to the level it is currently in. In other words ignore this post and do not see sense in what I have said. Do what you normally do, strap loads down in any way you like as the shunter did to me and if I had not re strapped it before going out on the road, I could have been put at risk by standing on the roadside tightening my ratchets in the event I needed to for any reason.
Your talking [zb] ,I wouldn’t trust you with said vehicle .
This is a very simple fact. When you wind a properly secured strap… the laws of physics mean the pressure is equal on both sides… it pulls in from both sides … not in the direction of the ratchet… if you find that is happening… you are doing it wrong. End .!
Pot & Kettle pal, you are the one talking [zb]
The pressure is not always equal on both sides,
depends on what you are strapping, what friction you get on the corners, angle of straps, etc…
I have sometimes used a strap with ratchets both sides for this reason
UKtramp:
The mind boggles, It highlights just how some on here should not be let loose in a truck. No idea of loading and common sense, two basic requirements of being a driver. Only JJ and a couple of others have actually got the sense required to secure a load. I cannot believe how a sensible bit of advice turns into something that has provoked the know it all types and the complete idiots who are so clueless that they find the advice here so difficult to grasp. This was not a one size fits all scenario and an element of common sense was expected to prevail. It is not surprising that this industry has been pulled down to the level it is currently in. In other words ignore this post and do not see sense in what I have said. Do what you normally do, strap loads down in any way you like as the shunter did to me and if I had not re strapped it before going out on the road, I could have been put at risk by standing on the roadside tightening my ratchets in the event I needed to for any reason.
Going by this post most of us should be sitting at the road side with our loads all over the road scratching our heads wondering what happened
Jingle Jon:
Sorry, I don’t know which language you are using.
Queens English , just answer my question properly or hasn’t your But buddy told you it yet
I beg to differ on the standard of your English.
You have a question?
I will ask you one more time !
How would you secure a 2.5 to 3.5t cable drum and what size bearers to use ?
If you don’t give me a straight answer then I will rename you Mr billy Jingle bells Bull
thought I had addressed that, not in the same level of English you claim. I’m really afraid now… please don’t call me names… you’re really scary when you do that. Cochereeed with a ■■■ on it.
