“Stellantis has announced plans to consolidate its electric van production in the UK at its Ellesmere Port plant, closing its factory in Luton and putting 1,100 jobs at risk.” Stellantis said the proposal to shut the factory was made “within the context of the U.K.’s zero emissions mandate.” Stellantis to close Luton plant putting 1,000-plus jobs at risk
The UK’s zero emmissions context and policy is to blame they ssy.
Bloody ridiculous ‘right on’ pc type schemes over substance, common sense and jobs.
The likes of which is being organised and urged on by that Milliband imbecile.
On the contrary, I feel sorry for the loss of jobs but the men in suits & legacy auto has only got themselves to blame for the situation they’re in & that goes for every one of them not just Stellantis.
They knew this day was coming way back in 2015 but ignored it & even spent the five years up to the decarbonisation of road transport bill becoming law in 2020.
They’ve wasted €millions lobbying against the transition to electric instead of sorting out a supply chain to build them.
Herbert Diess the then CEO of VW told the car industry what would happen if they didn’t go All-in & make affordable electric cars & they fired him.
He must have a *&^% you smile on his face looking at how the once mighty German car industry has now collapsed.
There’s one good thing that’s come out of the Brexit debacle though & that is we get to have all the Chinese electric cars & trucks here at affordable prices for yer average motorist as there’s no tariffs in Blighty.
Of course they’ve shirked the switch to electric! Because they tend not to be imbeciles and realise that electric is crap and certainly not the way forward.
The gullible of course continue to swallow the official line.
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ICE will die, but at the moment there is nothing with which to replace it, reliably. Electric can only fulfill some limited functions.
Without legislation, ICE manufacturers would never develop alternative energies. With exponentially increasing population and vehicles, climate change will only get worse, ICE has to be killed off.
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No argument with you saying that we have a problems with increasing population, increasing wealth/consumption, and manmade climate change.
As a bit of an aside: World population is certainly increasing, but it is not increasing at the same rate it was. We should still be worried about it, but here is the late Hans Rosling (well worth checking out if anyone doesn’t know him) on a TED talk.
LOL imbecile? gullible? Not from where I’m standing. Yeah, that will be work with mandates all the way to the dole office, Dealerships for new cars will be a thing of the past in the not too distant future & you’ll buy your new EV on Amazon or the like.
The German car industry is in more trouble than they’ve been letting on, German media (Bild) has found out they’ve been renting car parks to store their expensive electric cars that are not selling.
Here’s more salt in the wound for legacy auto, Chinese EV manufacturer Xpeng have just put a ten-year warranty on their 600km range G6 saloon, traction battery pack & car systems at a less price than any of the German brrands offerings.
How are legacy auto going to match that? They’ve had years to see this coming yet did next to nowt about it.
Blimey! Will UK/Europe have any car/supplier industries left at this rate!
Scchaeffer the car parts supplier are closing two plants, one in Austria that make gearbox bearings etc & the Sheffield plant who make clutches.
Bosch, have already cut 5,500 jobs & put 10,000 on a four-day week.
Did I hear somewhere they get fined for every conventional vehicle that outnumbers electrics sold…by 15k.?
So they get fined for selling what people want, because they dont want electric vehicles.
It kinda defies basic market forces does it not?
Crazy.
All endorsed by the lunatic waste of space who is Ed Milliband, the man synonimous with faliure in everything he has done.
Dangerous.
It was the Tory government that brought these ZEV mandates into being, Nowt to do with Milliband.
£15k for every ICE car oversold, 22% have to be EV’s, As well as the £15k fine all the EV’s they don’t sell this year get tagged onto next years ZEV madate which goes up to 28%, None of them can meet the 22% & another reason legacy are toast.
It isn’t just that though is it? EVs are the new thing, there is no 2nd hand market, thousands of people go through life never having enough money to buy a new motor. In my long life I only had one from new, a little Saxo diesel that I had to sign my life away on HP to own. The only time I ever had HP, apart from my first and only motor bike, a year to pay off £52. All the other times it was 2nd hand and in the early days right bangers (1st 2 Vanguards cost £5 each).
There is no way I could afford to buy a new EV now, I reckon the 2 diesels I’ve got will see me out, before they outlaw them altogether.
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If we can’t have ICE electric is the only way forward.It will actually work better for trucks than for cars but by the same logic it’s just the flawed artic configuration which is toast.Electric means a dedicated locomotive pack and seperate trailer at least for longer haul operations.
You think putting our own on the dole to import Chinese garbage and contributing to China’s military budget is good.
Unemployed benefit claimants don’t buy cars and eventually we run out of borrowed cash and taxing savings and pensions to pay for it.
No second hand market? You must be joking, The UK second hand EV market is booming, with three-year lease cars continually coming off lease into the auctions. There’s never been a better time to buy EV’s, it’s a buyers market.
There’s been a 57% growth in used EV’s, UK’s Second-Hand EV Market Booms with 57% Growth - Electric Car Guide
Would anyone buy a three year old smartphone on its original battery without budgeting for buying a replacement?
No I wasn’t joking but perhaps I should have added ‘yet’ after the above. OK, if I am so wrong what sort of price would you have to pay for warranted 2nd hand EV?
Pretty sure it would be out of my range if I wanted to get rid of my trusted diesels.
You should put yourself up for a PR job mate, you are definitely sold on these things.
There was a story yesterday of a fleet of electric plant vehicles being charged overnight,.everynight by, yep…a diesel generator.
(Not to mention Milliband and his team of clowns covering over a million and a half air miles going to these meetings (aka all expenses jollies) all over the world.)
Usual politician hypocricy and irony going on there.
You can say what you like mate, it is only a small minority who wants EVs, mostly right on pc practicing fleets.
The majority of normal people will be virtually forced into (or taxed into ) buying one on the future.
Meanwhile in Realworld or stark reality (if you ignore all the official line b/s of course) there is very little real NEED essentially, for all this type of sh, it is just pandering to the lefty greens,…(who nobody really likes anyway in reality, epic b/s swallowers the lot of them) …
Let’s face it, the world would be a better place without them
No need as explained in this analogy, of the environment being a field, and pollution effects being the grass.
Just go with it…
In the old days of Gardner engines, coal trains, and smog etc, the grass was up to our chins…out of control.
Nowadays engines are the cleanest they have ever been after the technology to achieve that, pollution is well in control, so the grass now is almost like a well kept competition putting green.
As I say…no NEED.
And especially do not listen to that absolute imbecile Milliband,.that guy is going to ruin what little industry this country has left.
He has already interfered with the Scottish oil industry and the power stations I remember reading somewhere.
So while him and his ilk wallow in their wealth, we will be all on our arses, unemployed with no money.
But hey, ying & yang…At least we will be breathing cleaner air in our poverty.
EVs, a white elephant IMHO.
Yep I love EV’s, I haven’t been to a petrol station in over 6 years, I can’t tell you how good that feels on the wallet. I read a ton of stuff regards to the disruption in the car industry & I have zero sympathy for the laggard legacy auto.
The loss of jobs is firmly on their shoulders & not the mandates. I’ll take the Chinese BEV brands any day over legacy autos expensive sub-par EV models.
Well you’d have to wonder at the millions of voters who voted Tory who couldn’t be arsed to read their manifestos and are now belly aching about the demise of ICE cars, All these ZEV mandates, the decarbonisation of road transport Bill & reducing emission standards YOY were in their manifestos, Bo-Jo was greener than the Green Party back then.
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