We have a Spanish lad just started at work as a mechanic and it turns out he also has a heavy goods licence.
He passed in 2010 and has rarely used it since then, and doesn’t want to drive regularly, but is willing to jump in a truck occasionally if needed.
I just want to know about the Spanish version of the dcpc,
will he have done it when he passed his test?
Does he get a drivers qualification card or is it on his licence?
Yes it’s called cap in Spain if he’s done it.
muckles:
We have a Spanish lad just started at work as a mechanic and it turns out he also has a heavy goods licence.He passed in 2010 and has rarely used it since then, and doesn’t want to drive regularly, but is willing to jump in a truck occasionally if needed.
I just want to know about the Spanish version of the dcpc,
will he have done it when he passed his test?
Does he get a drivers qualification card or is it on his licence?
Does he have code 95 I think it is on his licence next to the LGV categories?
John.c.1474:
Yes it’s called cap in Spain if he’s done it.
Thank you both
Will he have a card showing he’s done this or will he have the code 95 like ROG says.
I’ll have a proper look at his driving licence, with my glasses on this time. 
He will need either a DQC or a code 95 as he got it after the start date in 2009
Without either then he cannot drive commercially
I think the UK was the only country to give away free C1s with pre 1997 licences so he is unlikely to fit in that acquired right category
Spain issues a DQC.
See page 6.
He would not have had it as part of his initial Cat C.
See page 10.
Thanks Heraultais, good information there, seems this lad should have done a course after getting his licence, to get his initial DCPC. I don’t think he did though as he look quite confused when I asked him about it.
His licence is nearly 5 years old now, so maybe he needs to do the periodic course in the UK, it will cost us, but one trip where we have to get a temp driver, pay for hotels and food and maybe fly them to the circuit would easily cover recover that.
We are also finding it quite difficult to get drivers at short notice, all the one we’ve used in the past have full-time jobs now and many companies don’t allow thier drivers to drive for somebody else when they’re having time off.
Got to say the ■■■■■■■ the Slovenian DQC looks quite fit and the Swiss one isn’t bad either.
muckles:
Thanks Heraultais, good information there, seems this lad should have done a course after getting his licence, to get his initial DCPC. I don’t think he did though as he look quite confused when I asked him about it.His licence is nearly 5 years old now, so maybe he needs to do the periodic course in the UK, it will cost us, but one trip where we have to get a temp driver, pay for hotels and food and maybe fly them to the circuit would easily cover recover that.
We are also finding it quite difficult to get drivers at short notice, all the one we’ve used in the past have full-time jobs now and many companies don’t allow thier drivers to drive for somebody else when they’re having time off.Got to say the ■■■■■■■ the Slovenian DQC looks quite fit and the Swiss one isn’t bad either.
yep we cant do any work when on holiday due to the WTD that shoves 8hrs on which is daft .
On the other hand there’s a lot of drivers that cant turn the agency or SE work they have down for short temp work anymore .
I know of a few lads that used to do the odd job on the dif circuits that have dropped of to be certain of a full yrs worth of work an some of the rates have fallen dramatically. ( so I’ve been told )
The rules state that an initial dcpc is required before any periodic can count for those that did not have acquired rights so if he has not done initial then that is what he must do to get the first 5 years worth of dcpc hours on a DQC
RTD allows work to be done when on holiday from the main job
If the main job gives 8 hours for that holiday day and the driver works on that day then the 8 hours is void and substituted by whatever hours are worked on that day even if it was just 1 hour
ROG:
RTD allows work to be done when on holiday from the main jobIf the main job gives 8 hours for that holiday day and the driver works on that day then the 8 hours is void and substituted by whatever hours are worked on that day even if it was just 1 hour
yeah its a company thing Rog their argument is its holiday 
mind we can work rest days 
nick2008:
ROG:
RTD allows work to be done when on holiday from the main jobIf the main job gives 8 hours for that holiday day and the driver works on that day then the 8 hours is void and substituted by whatever hours are worked on that day even if it was just 1 hour
yeah its a company thing Rog their argument is its holiday
AH = if contract states you cannot work during holls then fair enough but its not a RTD thing
muckles:
Thanks Heraultais, good information there, seems this lad should have done a course after getting his licence, to get his initial DCPC. I don’t think he did though as he look quite confused when I asked him about it.His licence is nearly 5 years old now, so maybe he needs to do the periodic course in the UK, it will cost us, but one trip where we have to get a temp driver, pay for hotels and food and maybe fly them to the circuit would easily cover recover that.
We are also finding it quite difficult to get drivers at short notice, all the one we’ve used in the past have full-time jobs now and many companies don’t allow thier drivers to drive for somebody else when they’re having time off.Got to say the ■■■■■■■ the Slovenian DQC looks quite fit and the Swiss one isn’t bad either.
Hi muckles,
I think you might find that your Spanish guy has to do what we call “initial” DCPC, which in the UK is also called modules 2 and 4. It’s quite probable that he can’t drive at this time without the equivalent of the UK module 4.
Periodic DCPC hours can only be uploaded once a driver has module 4, so that’s quite an important step.
It might be possible to get him his mods 2 and 4 over here, but due to the fact that your driver passed his actual driving test abroad, I’d suggest that you ask the DSA (or whatever they’re called this week.)
There are a lot of UK drivers driving without having passed module 4, so your driver isn’t the first to encounter the problem of LGV driving schools not making it perfectly clear that he had another test to take after his road driving test.
dieseldave:
muckles:
Thanks Heraultais, good information there, seems this lad should have done a course after getting his licence, to get his initial DCPC. I don’t think he did though as he look quite confused when I asked him about it.His licence is nearly 5 years old now, so maybe he needs to do the periodic course in the UK, it will cost us, but one trip where we have to get a temp driver, pay for hotels and food and maybe fly them to the circuit would easily cover recover that.
We are also finding it quite difficult to get drivers at short notice, all the one we’ve used in the past have full-time jobs now and many companies don’t allow thier drivers to drive for somebody else when they’re having time off.Got to say the ■■■■■■■ the Slovenian DQC looks quite fit and the Swiss one isn’t bad either.
Hi muckles,
I think you might find that your Spanish guy has to do what we call “initial” DCPC, which in the UK is also called modules 2 and 4. It’s quite probable that he can’t drive at this time without the equivalent of the UK module 4.
Periodic DCPC hours can only be uploaded once a driver has module 4, so that’s quite an important step.
It might be possible to get him his mods 2 and 4 over here, but due to the fact that your driver passed his actual driving test abroad, I’d suggest that you ask the DSA (or whatever they’re called this week.)
There are a lot of UK drivers driving without having passed module 4, so your driver isn’t the first to encounter the problem of LGV driving schools not making it perfectly clear that he had another test to take after his road driving test.
Thanks Dave
Doesn’t seem as simple as it looked at first, looking at what Heraultais posted it will be very expensive if he has to go back to Spain as its the full course and test. I’ll do a bit of research, but might have to forget the idea in te end, will be a shame for us and him as having a valid HGV licence might help is get jobs in the future
Muckles have a read here
I see no reason why he cannot do initial dcpc modules 2 and 4 in the UK
ROG:
I see no reason why he cannot do initial dcpc modules 2 and 4 in the UK
I agree. The only thing he might have to do is exchange his spanish licence for a UK one. As DieselDave has suggested, the best thing to do is talk to the DVLA or whatever they are called now.
Héraultais:
ROG:
I see no reason why he cannot do initial dcpc modules 2 and 4 in the UKI agree. The only thing he might have to do is exchange his spanish licence for a UK one. As DieselDave has suggested, the best thing to do is talk to the DVLA or whatever they are called now.
The DVSA (DSA) driver cpc hotline would be the one to call on 0191 201 8112
I called the hotline a moment ago and was informed that although periodic can be done in the UK with another EU licence the initial cannot so the Spanish LGV licence would need to be exchanged for a UK one in order for that driver to get initial driver cpc modules 2 and 4 … or go back to Spain and get it
Just as I suspected. It has to be cheaper and easier therefore to exchange the licence and do the two modules here than go to Spain where he will have to do a full training course and test which here in France costs at least 1500€ and lasts 4 weeks!