Is there a legal limit to the amount of space required for a driver to have nights out 
Yes there is, I have had this confirmed on both the club car of Le Shuttle and in a Tesco RDC waiting room. 
Harry Monk:
Yes there is, I have had this confirmed on both the club car of Le Shuttle and in a Tesco RDC waiting room.
So thats a ‘no’ then!!! 
No honestly, if there isn’t 1.3 metres between your head and the pedals, VOSA will turn up with some of this…
Harry Monk:
Yes there is, I have had this confirmed on both the club car of Le Shuttle and in a Tesco RDC waiting room.
Rumours in Sherburn as well relate to the seat paralux, with the reach of the gear knob, and the kettle, 
Do like a MAN that covers his Nuts !!!
yes there is a minmum space requirement. but the actual figure of space required work’s out to be a volvo fl10…
IIRC there was a thread on this not long back…
klingon:
Is there a legal limit to the amount of space required for a driver to have nights out
The EU rules on whole vehicle type approval are contained in Directive EC/2007/46 and govern the standards for the manufacturing of category N2 vehicles (those designed for the carriage of goods that weigh above 3.5 but less than 12 tonnes).
This Directive refers back to Directive EC/97/27 governing the dimensions of category N vehicles. The EU rules only provide for maximum width (2,55m), length (12m) and height (4m) of vehicles. They also specify that the dimension must comply with ISO 612/1978. The full text of this standard does not appear to be publicly available. You can purchase it from the website of the International Standards Organisation and costs about 75 pounds: iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/ca … umber=4729
Since it is not publicly available, I have been unable to verify if ISO 612/1978 lays down minimum dimensions for sleeper cabs.
While the EU rules incorporate UNECE Regulation 29, which provides that vehicle cabs should incorporate certain safety features, these rules do not presently lay down minimum dimensions for sleeper cabs either.
I hope this answers your question.
No. As long as there is a bunk. Even if it is a fold up against the back wall of a day cab.
And NTSA lol
From what I remember you must have a properly fitted and purpose made bunk at least 18" from the rim of the steering wheel.
PS … As I have to actually get up and walk to the 3’6" wide bed in my truck I am safe
Only needs to be fitted with a bunk, but doesn’t specify what a bunk is… So could be a piece of foam across the seats
Cold Up North:
Only needs to be fitted with a bunk, but doesn’t specify what a bunk is… So could be a piece of foam across the seats
Not so ! … I know a few who got pulled out of the cab by the ministry men for sleeping across the seats. If there is no purpose built bed the company has to provide a hotel, that was the law untill 2000 when I left and if it has been changed you guys need to stand up for your rights and refuse to go out.
I know someone who works for gold star and there was a rumour going round the firm when they bought some Renault premiums that a driver called vosa as he was convinced it was illegal to be away all week in a cab that size.
kr79:
I know someone who works for gold star and there was a rumour going round the firm when they bought some Renault premiums that a driver called vosa as he was convinced it was illegal to be away all week in a cab that size.
â– â– â– â– living in a premium all week.
Much better than a Volvo fl10
What’s the difference between rest cab and sleeper cab? I thought a rest cab was like the old ERF E and EC models where you had a padded ledge behind the seats that you could lie down on, but not a proper bunk?
i take it you dont want nights out then
andy187:
No. As long as there is a bunk. Even if it is a fold up against the back wall of a day cab.spot on and correct!
all this crap about how many inches the bed must be from the wheel is crap and has never been law!!
The bunk is where you store your sarnies…
The bed at home is for sleeping in… 
Truckulent:
The bunk is where you store your sarnies…The bed at home is for sleeping in…
I agree, although I wouldn’t be putting my sarnies anywhere near a place that’s likely had another bloke’s naked, ■■■■■■■arse on it. The bunk is for storing your wet high-vis jacket and muddy boots, it serves no other purpose and definately isn’t for sleeping on.
klingon:
Is there a legal limit to the amount of space required for a driver to have nights out
NO NO NO NO if there was all the car transporter boys would be off the road with the superlow cabs, my old sk merc you had to push all the seats forward and then put extra bits in to make up the bed, so this crap about you have to be so far away from the steering wheel is a fairy tail 