pete 359:
one of vale’s very smart atki’s.
hi pete 359,i had all the 5s with vale.she was my first wagon when i started there.vale was owned by richard raymond not david as said earlier.the boys were gwyn and steve and he had a new baby when i was with him.i was there for a few years and ■■■■ was ok tho we didnt see eye to eye allways.we were next to j+m at stormy untill he had a yard on village farm next to dai his brother with argosy.we brought all our own bricks down x london brick and unloeded them by hand as was nearly allways the case everywhere then.john muir had the 4s in the other picture.we both had bran new motors later on.220L and 330L.all the tackle with ■■■■ was A1.trailers and units.i actually went to atkis to fetch two new units at walton le dale preston.one at a time that is.he was so fussy that they were all to look identical.long gone days.good old ■■■■ i was with him when my daughter was born in 1971. its time i packed it in now ive been at it too long.ade.
pete 359:
pete 359:
hi all,
vale transport,were a firm i remember very well.when my parents ran our family business at stormy down in the early 70’s vale were based there.vale later moved to village farm industrial estate in pyle.in what is now cbl plant hire’s yard.next door to vale at pyle was argosy transport,the owners of these two transport companies were brothers,their other brother is still in haulage to this day,john raymond.this seddon photo is very large,i have scanned it as best i can 
.thanks to my good friend mike raymond,for the pictures.vale was owned by mike’s father dai raymond.
this may be?the old tondu brickworks.
hi pete,vale was ■■■■ raymond mate not dai.he was argosy.i was at stormy in the 70s. i knew ron and john of j&m.glyn morgan was there to.we were a good crowd of boys up there on stormy.do you remember the high water tank with [silent was here painted on it] well phelps did that and silent was me.phelps was tom fats son and a fitter.i dont know mike raymond that i can think of.i remember jonathon jrs son but didnt know dais kids.my old man marlais jenkins worked for dai years ago when he had a couple of mandators and an albion clydesdale.i used to go everywhere with him.reg wacket and tony baker were there to.old names from the past.i was with ■■■■ when we moved to pyle.how times have changed now.
jinks@62:
pete 359:
one of vale’s very smart atki’s.
hi pete 359,i had all the 5s with vale.she was my first wagon when i started there.vale was owned by richard raymond not david as said earlier.the boys were gwyn and steve and he had a new baby when i was with him.i was there for a few years and ■■■■ was ok tho we didnt see eye to eye allways.we were next to j+m at stormy untill he had a yard on village farm next to dai his brother with argosy.we brought all our own bricks down x london brick and unloeded them by hand as was nearly allways the case everywhere then.john muir had the 4s in the other picture.we both had bran new motors later on.220L and 330L.all the tackle with ■■■■ was A1.trailers and units.i actually went to atkis to fetch two new units at walton le dale preston.one at a time that is.he was so fussy that they were all to look identical.long gone days.good old ■■■■ i was with him when my daughter was born in 1971. its time i packed it in now ive been at it too long.ade.
by the way,i think that picture of the4s was taken on stomy? i,m sure the chimney in the back ground was pulled down.i seem to remember it being there on stormy down.there was an old firing range there too.ill gone now.
jinks@62:
pete 359:
pete 359:
hi all,
vale transport,were a firm i remember very well.when my parents ran our family business at stormy down in the early 70’s vale were based there.vale later moved to village farm industrial estate in pyle.in what is now cbl plant hire’s yard.next door to vale at pyle was argosy transport,the owners of these two transport companies were brothers,their other brother is still in haulage to this day,john raymond.this seddon photo is very large,i have scanned it as best i can .thanks to my good friend mike raymond,for the pictures.vale was owned by mike’s father dai raymond.
this may be?the old tondu brickworks.
hi pete,vale was ■■■■ raymond mate not dai.he was argosy.i was at stormy in the 70s. i knew ron and john of j&m.glyn morgan was there to.we were a good crowd of boys up there on stormy.do you remember the high water tank with [silent was here painted on it] well phelps did that and silent was me.phelps was tom fats son and a fitter.i dont know mike raymond that i can think of.i remember jonathon jrs son but didnt know dais kids.my old man marlais jenkins worked for dai years ago when he had a couple of mandators and an albion clydesdale.i used to go everywhere with him.reg wacket and tony baker were there to.old names from the past.i was with ■■■■ when we moved to pyle.how times have changed now.
hi jinks@62,
sorry,my mistake,you are right,■■■■ raymond owned vale transport.the photos were lent to me by my old mate mike raymond.i think he would be the baby you mentioned 
he’s 42 now.i think you are also right about that photo being stormy down,i hadn’t thought of that my father (dave cooper) told me today that a fella called tiny drove the seddon for vale.i can remember the water tank 
,i spent my childhood on stormy down in the 70’s.
regards andrew.
hi all and andrew, i found this white parked in a yard in cinderford today so i took these pics for andrew ,how you keeping mate cheers john
this a better view if you notice its a right hand drive
Dave the Renegade:
pete 359:
Hi Andrew,
That looks like Port Talbot in front of Graham on the M4,if I’m not mistaken.
Cheers Dave.
Hi Pete 359, pics look good, what you need is one of those snappy cameras M8 !..I spy with my little eye a TP truck…that will be the Dock Shunter, an S reg DAF 75 they wont give up as it only used on the Docks, mmm, last time I saw it , I was in Telford, which is not on the Docks at Cardiff either…one for preservation maybe?
To the Editor
This is a copyright photo that I placed on the Cymmer Afan and District Historical Website and someone “lifted” As It is my photograph, I was very annoyed when someone offered me a copy of this photo for £30. He avoids me now as I told him it was my photo.
As a result, I have taken down the Cymmer History website, into which I was going to include further photos of E J Miles and his son E R Miles. Both companies had some interesting old vehicles and new ones during their life time.
swcode3models:
To the Editor
This is a copyright photo that I placed on the Cymmer Afan and District Historical Website and someone “lifted” As It is my photograph, I was very annoyed when someone offered me a copy of this photo for £30. He avoids me now as I told him it was my photo.
As a result, I have taken down the Cymmer History website, into which I was going to include further photos of E J Miles and his son E R Miles. Both companies had some interesting old vehicles and new ones during their life time.
HI MATE,JUST WONDERING WAS THEY RELATED TO DIA MILES WORKED FOR BLUE LINE THEN HAD TIPPERS IN THE ABBEY ON MORVA COKE STOCKYARD CHEERS JOHN
jinks@62:
jinks@62:
pete 359:
one of vale’s very smart atki’s.
hi pete 359,i had all the 5s with vale.she was my first wagon when i started there.vale was owned by richard raymond not david as said earlier.the boys were gwyn and steve and he had a new baby when i was with him.i was there for a few years and ■■■■ was ok tho we didnt see eye to eye allways.we were next to j+m at stormy untill he had a yard on village farm next to dai his brother with argosy.we brought all our own bricks down x london brick and unloeded them by hand as was nearly allways the case everywhere then.john muir had the 4s in the other picture.we both had bran new motors later on.220L and 330L.all the tackle with ■■■■ was A1.trailers and units.i actually went to atkis to fetch two new units at walton le dale preston.one at a time that is.he was so fussy that they were all to look identical.long gone days.good old ■■■■ i was with him when my daughter was born in 1971. its time i packed it in now ive been at it too long.ade.
by the way,i think that picture of the4s was taken on stomy? i,m sure the chimney in the back ground was pulled down.i seem to remember it being there on stormy down.there was an old firing range there too.ill gone now.
hi adrian e-mail me your adress or phone number so i can get them photos of you cheers john
steelboyf10:
Dave the Renegade:
pete 359:
Hi Andrew,
That looks like Port Talbot in front of Graham on the M4,if I’m not mistaken.
Cheers Dave.
Hi Pete 359, pics look good, what you need is one of those snappy cameras M8 !..I spy with my little eye a TP truck…that will be the Dock Shunter, an S reg DAF 75 they wont give up as it only used on the Docks, mmm, last time I saw it , I was in Telford, which is not on the Docks at Cardiff either…one for preservation maybe?
hi graham,
i knew that you would comment on that …erm,shunter? i have told the government that she should buy me a camera like your’s,for my birthday,then i can take photos like that all the time .
regards andrew.
hi sammy dog, was that you i seen the morning leaning on the van i was dropping the trailers i seen some1 looking over : 
smallcoal:
jinks@62:
jinks@62:
pete 359:
one of vale’s very smart atki’s.
hi pete 359,i had all the 5s with vale.she was my first wagon when i started there.vale was owned by richard raymond not david as said earlier.the boys were gwyn and steve and he had a new baby when i was with him.i was there for a few years and ■■■■ was ok tho we didnt see eye to eye allways.we were next to j+m at stormy untill he had a yard on village farm next to dai his brother with argosy.we brought all our own bricks down x london brick and unloeded them by hand as was nearly allways the case everywhere then.john muir had the 4s in the other picture.we both had bran new motors later on.220L and 330L.all the tackle with ■■■■ was A1.trailers and units.i actually went to atkis to fetch two new units at walton le dale preston.one at a time that is.he was so fussy that they were all to look identical.long gone days.good old ■■■■ i was with him when my daughter was born in 1971. its time i packed it in now ive been at it too long.ade.
by the way,i think that picture of the4s was taken on stomy? i,m sure the chimney in the back ground was pulled down.i seem to remember it being there on stormy down.there was an old firing range there too.ill gone now.
hi adrian e-mail me your adress or phone number so i can get them photos of you cheers john
hi smallcoal was that you dropping the trailer off the merc tractor today i havent met you so i dont know what you look like cheers martyn.
hi martyn yes that was me shunting trailers around
smallcoal:
hi martyn yes that was me shunting trailers around
if id known i would have poped over for a quick chat sorry mate cheers martyn.
sammy dog:
smallcoal:
hi martyn yes that was me shunting trailers around
if id known i would have poped over for a quick chat sorry mate cheers martyn.
i did pop over when we finished the door was locked and the shutters down the dogs were outside
hi andrew, i was talking to terry lowndes today he is going to ask stillman for a photo he got of a skip wagon leaning upright against a lamp post when i get it i will put on cheers john
smallcoal:
sammy dog:
smallcoal:
hi martyn yes that was me shunting trailers around
if id known i would have poped over for a quick chat sorry mate cheers martyn.
i did pop over when we finished the door was locked and the shutters down the dogs were outside
im doing a pickup at mo so did an hour on it before delivering that nissan outside back to the customer home now got to do a bit in garden cheers martyn.
sammy dog:
smallcoal:
sammy dog:
smallcoal:
hi martyn yes that was me shunting trailers around
if id known i would have poped over for a quick chat sorry mate cheers martyn.
i did pop over when we finished the door was locked and the shutters down the dogs were outside
im doing a pickup at mo so did an hour on it before delivering that nissan outside back to the customer home now got to do a bit in garden cheers martyn.
dont work to hard in the garden mate , best to sit outside with a beer
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