my dear mate sid evans who took me everywhere when i was a kid in the many trucks he drove,luckily i wasn’t with him in yugoslavia in the spring of 1986 when a german on the wrong side of the road nearly killed him.sadly sid passed away three years ago this december 12th…r.i.p. mate
Another view of the line-up at John Raymond’s yard, showing the latest Mk.2 ‘Silver Knights’ at the front, with the Mk.1s stretching away into the distance.
The one nearest the camera, WNY 620H, was featured in articles in Comical Motor and the Eaton (American) hosue magazine, because it was experimentally fitted with a Fuller RTO-610 gearbox instead of the 6-speed David Brown. It was being used day and night, trunking overnight between Bridgend and Witney, with the day man taking it from Witney to London and back.
The articles said that Raymond replaced the motors when they were only 12 months old, but that this was one was kept on beyond that to test the spec. At that point, it had covered 176,000 miles. Atkinson never did offer that spec because, apparently, the torque multiplication in crawler exceeded the nominal capacity of the Kirkstall double helical axle. I don’t know if Raymond had any more like it, but I think the combination is great - I know, because I have one like it!
240 Gardner:
Another view of the line-up at John Raymond’s yard, showing the latest Mk.2 ‘Silver Knights’ at the front, with the Mk.1s stretching away into the distance.The one nearest the camera, WNY 620H, was featured in articles in Comical Motor and the Eaton (American) hosue magazine, because it was experimentally fitted with a Fuller RTO-610 gearbox instead of the 6-speed David Brown. It was being used day and night, trunking overnight between Bridgend and Witney, with the day man taking it from Witney to London and back.
The articles said that Raymond replaced the motors when they were only 12 months old, but that this was one was kept on beyond that to test the spec. At that point, it had covered 176,000 miles. Atkinson never did offer that spec because, apparently, the torque multiplication in crawler exceeded the nominal capacity of the Kirkstall double helical axle. I don’t know if Raymond had any more like it, but I think the combination is great - I know, because I have one like it!
Right Mr. 8 potter ! I can shed further light on the above spec. In September 1971 we took delivery of our first Atki Borderer from Scotts of Penrith and the spec was— ■■■■■■■ 205/Fuller RTO-610/Kirkstall BDR .This tractor for some reason had been built with a slightly higher diff. ratio than standard in that it could achieve a top speed of circa 63 mph which was about 5 mph faster than other identical tractors that joined the fleet . This particular Atki ( MEC 98K ) was always a smooth runner compared to a lot of the others , maybe because it was driven by our (then) best driver) !! We then started to use Eaton axles and later we used the new Kirkstall hub reduction axle and finally some of the last chassis we got had the dreaded Group axle on the basis that there was nothing else available !!What a load of crap that axle was --it just wasn’t up to the job behind the ■■■■■■■ and Gardener 8lxb !! Regards Bewick.
240 Gardner:
Another view of the line-up at John Raymond’s yard, showing the latest Mk.2 ‘Silver Knights’ at the front, with the Mk.1s stretching away into the distance.The one nearest the camera, WNY 620H, was featured in articles in Comical Motor and the Eaton (American) hosue magazine, because it was experimentally fitted with a Fuller RTO-610 gearbox instead of the 6-speed David Brown. It was being used day and night, trunking overnight between Bridgend and Witney, with the day man taking it from Witney to London and back.
The articles said that Raymond replaced the motors when they were only 12 months old, but that this was one was kept on beyond that to test the spec. At that point, it had covered 176,000 miles. Atkinson never did offer that spec because, apparently, the torque multiplication in crawler exceeded the nominal capacity of the Kirkstall double helical axle. I don’t know if Raymond had any more like it, but I think the combination is great - I know, because I have one like it!
Right Mr. 8 potter ! I can shed further light on the above spec. In September 1971 we took delivery of our first Atki Borderer from Scotts of Penrith and the spec was— ■■■■■■■ 205/Fuller RTO-610/Kirkstall BDR .This tractor for some reason had been built with a slightly higher diff. ratio than standard in that it could achieve a top speed of circa 63 mph which was about 5 mph faster than other identical tractors that joined the fleet . This particular Atki ( MEC 98K ) was always a smooth runner compared to a lot of the others , maybe because it was driven by our (then) best driver) !! We then started to use Eaton axles and later we used the new Kirkstall hub reduction axle and finally some of the last chassis we got had the dreaded Group axle on the basis that there was nothing else available !!What a load of crap that axle was --it just wasn’t up to the job behind the ■■■■■■■ and Gardener 8lxb !! Regards Bewick.
that borderer wouldn’t happen to be ojm 480l would it?would you be the bewick that ran amongst many others i can recall some very smart f88’s named after american pacer horses?
pete 359:
that borderer wouldn’t happen to be ojm 480l would it?would you be the bewick that ran amongst many others i can recall some very smart f88’s named after american pacer horses?
I might be ! American & British pacers a number of which were some I owned /trained and raced ( a lot classier than them Welsh rubbing rags !!! ) The Tregarron promoters used to desparatley try to get us to come down there but it was only a hobby and I much preferred to race at York on the hard track and had no time or inclination to take my horses down that goat track to west Wales however much they used to tempt me !!! What do you know about OJM480L then Pete my son ? Regards Buick !!!
sound pics them pete 359 used to go in the orange tree in walsall with all them raymonds lads got a pic at home of ken the clown off geo beer any of you lads remember him
hi everyone,some more of cardiff transport,sorry a little faded,some more good pics andrew,remember ■■■■ hopkins well
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pete 359:
here’s we have one of raymond’s many f10’s with a fairly new trailor tilt loaded for italy with railway lines and driven by dai beer 1985.
where were the railway lines made ? Bewick
as i recall?it was a loaded in hofa at port talbot.cracking pictures bernard.i have somemore of cardiff transport will scan and post soon.
Hi andrew.hope you are ok,just sent you a message,hope you dont mind
here’s another bernard,sorry about the poor quality.1982 ross services northbound.
my dad worked for smiths of maddisons which used to run out of the old wynn depot in newport,the guy who ran it was called eric and i think his boy was the one who set up cardiff transport i might be wrong though
Has any one got any memories of the Newport transporter Bridge,when I used to go with my Dad in the fifties,there was always holdups of one sort or another.
sorry about the poor quality,but i had a crappy camera when i was 18 in 1983 taken in canton carnival and the slowest that i ever saw a cardiff transport man ever travel!
an old black & white shot of one of penllyne transport’s foden s80@s?or as i know them the foden that has the gold fish bowl headlamps.
a couple more for bernard.taken at joint motorways yard at port talbot in the summer of 1987.[alb
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just found some daf photos of coastal roadways’ pyle depot,will post them soon.
just found a january 1988 issue of truck & driver showing John Raymond in long distance diary
Hello everyone,i know the forum says south wales hauliers but i thought i would put some mansel davies on that i have as they have been around for as long as i can remember.
