Silver_Surfer:
What you mean by complying with EU driving law, folk are doing too much work?
It’s a maximum as laid down in the EU law, not something that anyone who considers themselves a ‘real’ trucker has to achieve every day/week/fortnight.
Tipper Tom:
Goldilox:
, but am sure that wouldn’t have happened if I hadn’t been as tired as [zb].Of course it would of happened. You’ve got lady parts. Lady parts too close to the steering wheel… An accident waiting to happen really.
<runs and hides before the self righteous start on how I’m sexist>
It wouldn’t. It was the man with his power tools. His fault and case rested.
Anyway, haven’t you got an ingrowing toenail to attend to?
OVLOV JAY:
Dear 4aaaa4dd. I don’t know you, don’t want to, don’t care about your ■■■■■■■■■, don’t care what you call me. And I certainly don’t care what my work mates think of me, as I always prescribe to two philosophies. 1 sticks and stones and all that. 2 Work hard for myself and my family and [zb] who that annoys. Whether it was a wind up or a personal attack on me, for which I see no reason or provocation. The fact is you seem to have annoyed at least 4 or 5 posters on this thread, all of which carry more stature and credence within the forum than you. I never have, nor ever will report a post to a mod or admin, so it’s not me who got your posts removed, you did that by yourself. That will be my last word to you on the subject. Whatever you reply will not get a raise as I’m not that childish to need the last word
good …I win. 
Goldilox:
Tipper Tom:
Goldilox:
, but am sure that wouldn’t have happened if I hadn’t been as tired as [zb].Of course it would of happened. You’ve got lady parts. Lady parts too close to the steering wheel… An accident waiting to happen really.
<runs and hides before the self righteous start on how I’m sexist>
It wouldn’t. It was the man with his power tools. His fault and case rested.
Anyway, haven’t you got an ingrowing toenail to attend to?
Nope my toenails are all sorted now. Not had a problem for a few months. I’m liking the attitude though 
Dan_1986:
Rikki-UK:
Silver_Surfer:
Your entitled to your opinion dude but not when it spreads hate on an Internet forum.QFT — some posts removed, do not repost in such a manner, others quoting the off topic posts have also been removed - if any have been missed please use the report post button thanks
Remove the whole thread please Rikki this has turned in to nothing but a playground
tHINKS GOING JUST THE WAY THE op WANTS THEN 
the old timer:
Dan_1986:
Rikki-UK:
Silver_Surfer:
Your entitled to your opinion dude but not when it spreads hate on an Internet forum.QFT — some posts removed, do not repost in such a manner, others quoting the off topic posts have also been removed - if any have been missed please use the report post button thanks
Remove the whole thread please Rikki this has turned in to nothing but a playground
tHINKS GOING JUST THE WAY THE op WANTS THEN
Clearly. 
As I see it, a lot of the posters are right about some things, and wrong in others. What the op was stating is the fact that he doesn’t have a choice, and thats the idea of most transport managers and planners. They have had it too easy for too long, and a 15 hr day isn’t up for negotiation in my eyes. They have introduced it into a normal working day, and that’s wrong, every driver should be able to reduce or not, and not be threatened with Theres the gate or Don't you like the job anymore sarcastic nonsense.
I am not saying that if a company has a last minute schedule, that someone has to cover, it shouldn’t be covered, but leave it to the driver, and if it doesn’t happen too often, then so be it, help out. But if it happens on a regular basis, then start a driver later, or reorganise the schedules to accommodate. I think most drivers working for a decent company, would help out when needed, but if a driver is put under pressure, he will react like a raging bull.
I think the original idea of allowing 3 x 15 hr days a week and 2 x 10 hr drives was simply to allow a bit of wriggle room for the days when a normal planned 13 hr day goes ■■■■ up.
NOT designed to be planned in and used to the max every week.
Driveroneuk:
I think the original idea of allowing 3 x 15 hr days a week and 2 x 10 hr drives was simply to allow a bit of wriggle room for the days when a normal planned 13 hr day goes ■■■■ up.
NOT designed to be planned in and used to the max every week.
I’ve never understood why you can only reduce your rest period 3 times.
Most people work a 5 day week, so most trampers are in the wagon 4 nights, why does 1 of them have to be 11hrs??
waynedl:
Driveroneuk:
I think the original idea of allowing 3 x 15 hr days a week and 2 x 10 hr drives was simply to allow a bit of wriggle room for the days when a normal planned 13 hr day goes ■■■■ up.
NOT designed to be planned in and used to the max every week.I’ve never understood why you can only reduce your rest period 3 times.
Most people work a 5 day week, so most trampers are in the wagon 4 nights, why does 1 of them have to be 11hrs??
The max of 3 reduced daily rests between weekly rests - not per week - was probably due to some EU politician deciding that it was the safe limit
Perhaps this is partly why many companies operate a 4 on 4 off system
Certainly gives a pointer to why so many drivers end up alone or married multiple times in this thread eh
anyone who chooses a shift over their kids is a ■■■■
any planner who plans 15’s as a target is a ■■■■
any boss especially small firms who lets their planners get away with it is a ■■■■
thank god some companies respect work/life balance.
ROG:
waynedl:
Driveroneuk:
I think the original idea of allowing 3 x 15 hr days a week and 2 x 10 hr drives was simply to allow a bit of wriggle room for the days when a normal planned 13 hr day goes ■■■■ up.
NOT designed to be planned in and used to the max every week.I’ve never understood why you can only reduce your rest period 3 times.
Most people work a 5 day week, so most trampers are in the wagon 4 nights, why does 1 of them have to be 11hrs??
The max of 3 reduced daily rests between weekly rests - not per week - was probably due to some EU politician deciding that it was the safe limit
Perhaps this is partly why many companies operate a 4 on 4 off system
I never said per week… I know that it’s between weekly rest periods and the 10hr drive time is twice in a fixed working week.
I just said, most people work mon - fri / sat, or 5 days in a row, so why as a tramper are we only allowed to reduce 3 times instead of 4, why 3 of all numbers?
Trust me, I don’t particularly want to do 4 15hr days, but I also don’t want to spend 11hrs in the truck, I’d rather be earning or getting home
Good thread this Just gets better as it goes along
OVLOV JAY:
Dear 4aaaa4dd. I don’t know you, don’t want to, don’t care about your ■■■■■■■■■, don’t care what you call me. And I certainly don’t care what my work mates think of me, as I always prescribe to two philosophies. 1 sticks and stones and all that. 2 Work hard for myself and my family and [zb] who that annoys. Whether it was a wind up or a personal attack on me, for which I see no reason or provocation. The fact is you seem to have annoyed at least 4 or 5 posters on this thread, all of which carry more stature and credence within the forum than you. I never have, nor ever will report a post to a mod or admin, so it’s not me who got your posts removed, you did that by yourself. That will be my last word to you on the subject. Whatever you reply will not get a raise as I’m not that childish to need the last word
I reported some new fellows post for being offensive. Perhaps some of yours were removed as well 4aaaa4d, they were fine but they probly got thrown out with the other chaps.
Olog Hai:
Silver_Surfer:
What you mean by complying with EU driving law, folk are doing too much work?It’s a maximum as laid down in the EU law, not something that anyone who considers themselves a ‘real’ trucker has to achieve every day/week/fortnight.
I agree with you, depends what sort of firm you’re on for as to wether it’s expected or not, horses for courses. In general haulage it is expected more often than not to max out.
Dan_1986:
Rikki-UK:
Silver_Surfer:
Your entitled to your opinion dude but not when it spreads hate on an Internet forum.QFT — some posts removed, do not repost in such a manner, others quoting the off topic posts have also been removed - if any have been missed please use the report post button thanks
Remove the whole thread please Rikki this has turned in to nothing but a playground
Wait wait!!! We haven’t had pics from Goldilox yet… Over to you babe 
waynedl:
ROG:
waynedl:
Driveroneuk:
I think the original idea of allowing 3 x 15 hr days a week and 2 x 10 hr drives was simply to allow a bit of wriggle room for the days when a normal planned 13 hr day goes ■■■■ up.
NOT designed to be planned in and used to the max every week.I’ve never understood why you can only reduce your rest period 3 times.
Most people work a 5 day week, so most trampers are in the wagon 4 nights, why does 1 of them have to be 11hrs??
The max of 3 reduced daily rests between weekly rests - not per week - was probably due to some EU politician deciding that it was the safe limit
Perhaps this is partly why many companies operate a 4 on 4 off system
I never said per week… I know that it’s between weekly rest periods
I never said you did - that bit was referring the bit quoted by Driveroneuk
FarnboroughBoy11:
Dan_1986:
Rikki-UK:
Silver_Surfer:
Your entitled to your opinion dude but not when it spreads hate on an Internet forum.QFT — some posts removed, do not repost in such a manner, others quoting the off topic posts have also been removed - if any have been missed please use the report post button thanks
Remove the whole thread please Rikki this has turned in to nothing but a playground
Wait wait!!! We haven’t had pics from Goldilox yet… Over to you babe
I think Switch scared her off with his rapier wit.
I am however waiting with bated breath for a cheeky snap of her in her favourite frock.
Silver_Surfer:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Dan_1986:
Rikki-UK:
Silver_Surfer:
Your entitled to your opinion dude but not when it spreads hate on an Internet forum.QFT — some posts removed, do not repost in such a manner, others quoting the off topic posts have also been removed - if any have been missed please use the report post button thanks
Remove the whole thread please Rikki this has turned in to nothing but a playground
Wait wait!!! We haven’t had pics from Goldilox yet… Over to you babe
I think Switch scared her off with his rapier wit.
I am however waiting with bated breath for a cheeky snap of her in her favourite frock.
That’s well derogatory, women arnt objects man. You should be ashamed of yourself
I’ll stand in the corner & look at the wall.