Small vans - 62mph Why?

Saratoga:
OK, so vans below 3.5t don’t need a limiter, BUT. IF IT IS FITTED then you can’t use the outside lane…

I don’t mean to be rude, but thats a complete load of twoddle.

mickyblue:

Kerbdog:
Yet coaches carrying 60 or so people can do 62 too ! The coach drivers are even more gutted since they lost the 3rd lane entitlement !

I got overtaken by a bus carrying people on a single carriageway road on a blind corner. ■■■■ comes to mind.

Why is it trucks are limited and coaches are not. They are carrying people and trucks are carrying stuff :smiley:

Coaches are limited to 100kph/62mph did you not read the post properly?

It was only right to restrict limited vehicles from using the outside lane as moronic white van man would only undertake causing mayhem and carnage.

When im overtaking some trucks that are limited to 50mph its like me coach is flying past them

muckles:
All these outside lane restriction only seem to affect vehicles over 3.5 tonnes or one that is limit to less than 60mph.
Nothing that would effect a small van limited to 62mph.

So technically then a coach could use the outside lane because it can do 62mph :wink:

DAF95XF:

muckles:
All these outside lane restriction only seem to affect vehicles over 3.5 tonnes or one that is limit to less than 60mph.
Nothing that would effect a small van limited to 62mph.

So technically then a coach could use the outside lane because it can do 62mph :wink:

so, does your coach weigh less that 3500KGs MGW? :unamused:

shuttlespanker:

DAF95XF:

muckles:
All these outside lane restriction only seem to affect vehicles over 3.5 tonnes or one that is limit to less than 60mph.
Nothing that would effect a small van limited to 62mph.

So technically then a coach could use the outside lane because it can do 62mph :wink:

so, does your coach weigh less that 3500KGs MGW? :unamused:

Can you imagine the mayhem if limited vehicles can use all lanes for example 3 trucks,lane 1 doing 52mph , lane 2 doing 54mph , lane 3 doing 56mph.

hence the reason vehicles over 3.5 tonnes cant use the outside lane

A law was made to prevent 3.5 to 7.5 with limiters using the outer lane on the grounds of safety
That is evident beause the same vehicles without limiters are still allowed to use the outer lane

Now we come to vans under 3.5 with limiters
Although there does not SEEM to be a law preventing them using the outer lane it does make SENSE that there should be for the same safety reason as the 3.5 to 7.5

Assuming there is no law, which seems likely as none of us can find one, then it would be interesting to find out why the powers that be have not made one for the under 3.5

DAF95XF:

muckles:
All these outside lane restriction only seem to affect vehicles over 3.5 tonnes or one that is limit to less than 60mph.
Nothing that would effect a small van limited to 62mph.

So technically then a coach could use the outside lane because it can do 62mph :wink:

Sorry probably not, if you read what Wheel Nut posted earlier it does mention passenger vehicles. If your coach fits into any of these categories then you’re banned as well.

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q590.htm

a passenger vehicle which is constructed or adapted to carry more than eight seated passengers in addition to the driver the maximum laden weight of which exceeds 7.5 tonnes;

a passenger vehicle which is constructed or adapted to carry more than eight seated passengers in addition to the driver the maximum laden weight of which does not exceed 7.5 tonnes, which is required to be fitted with a speed limiter.

a passenger vehicle which (among other things) cannot travel over 60mph

Wheel Nut:
Notice the first of my highlights, it says fitted with a limiter AND not able to reach 60mph.

I think the work AND is very important in that answer.

askthe.police.uk/content/Q590.htm

I think you’ve miss quoted it.

it doesn’t say

it says fitted with a limiter AND not able to reach 60mph.

It says word for word.

a goods vehicle having a maximum laden weight exceeding 3.5 tonnes but not exceeding 7.5 tonnes, which is required to be fitted with a speed limiter and
a goods vehicle which (among other things) cannot travel over 60mph

Now I would read that as referring to 2 different types of vehicles, which would mean all goods vehicles over 3.5 tonnes and any goods vehicles that can’t do 60mph are banned from the outside lane.

As in

a truck had bald tyres and no brakes

would refer to one truck but

a truck had bald tyres and a truck had no brakes

Would refer to 2 separate trucks.

I think the police misquoted it, that is why.

legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2004 … 20limiters

Regulation 12(1)(aa) is inserted so that a goods vehicle having a maximum laden weight
exceeding 3.5 tonnes but not exceeding 7.5 tonnes and to which regulation 36B of the
Construction and Use Regulations 1986 (“the 1986 Regulations”) applies, or would apply but for
paragraph (14)(a) or (b) of that regulation, is a prohibited vehicle for the purpose of regulation 12.

It is Sunday morning, the pub is open, I have some fish to fry :confused:

Wheel Nut:
I think the police misquoted it, that is why.

I’ll take your word for that, :smiley: I’ve read enough of your posts to believe you’ve done the research and I can’t be bothered to check as it doesn’t really effect me. :laughing:

That slight miss quote does change the interpretation of the law on this significantly. Which is really bad as it’s supposed to be a website where people can clarify the law on certain subjects. :open_mouth: