mickfly:
Big Jon’s dad:
I assumed Mick was talking about qualified nurses and Police moving to Canada.
.Yes I was.
If they need further training to bring them up to speed, do they pay for it?
Yet again talking bollox.My wife was a highly qualified nurse in blighty,but to work here would involve taking a degree at uni,at her expense,guess what ? She isn’t nursing.We succeeded,you failed,end of story.
Bit harsh maybe,but sometimes you need to let go 
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mickfly:
Big Jon’s dad:
I assumed Mick was talking about qualified nurses and Police moving to Canada.
.Yes I was.
If they need further training to bring them up to speed, do they pay for it?Yet again talking bollox.My wife was a highly qualified nurse in blighty,but to work here would involve taking a degree at uni,at her expense,guess what ? She isn’t nursing.We succeeded,you failed,end of story.
Bit harsh maybe,but sometimes you need to let go
I was asking a question, you answered regarding nurses.
Now, why would you want me to let go?
mickfly:
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mickfly:
Big Jon’s dad:
I assumed Mick was talking about qualified nurses and Police moving to Canada.
.Yes I was.
If they need further training to bring them up to speed, do they pay for it?Yet again talking bollox.My wife was a highly qualified nurse in blighty,but to work here would involve taking a degree at uni,at her expense,guess what ? She isn’t nursing.We succeeded,you failed,end of story.
Bit harsh maybe,but sometimes you need to let goI was asking a question, you answered regarding nurses.
Now, why would you want me to let go?
Because you go on and on and on and on. It gets tiresome after a while and just becomes a whine. You devalue your story by over telling it.
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mickfly:
Big Jon’s dad:
I assumed Mick was talking about qualified nurses and Police moving to Canada.
.Yes I was.
If they need further training to bring them up to speed, do they pay for it?Yet again talking bollox.My wife was a highly qualified nurse in blighty,but to work here would involve taking a degree at uni,at her expense,guess what ? She isn’t nursing.We succeeded,you failed,end of story.
Bit harsh maybe,but sometimes you need to let go
Bollox eh■■?, my wife is in nursing and was over qualified here 
Different Provinces different criteria,you tell me ? But that’s the truth.
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Different Provinces different criteria,you tell me ? But that’s the truth.
Very likely so how can you say one man is talking bollox when you and I have both experienced different rules in different provinces
Because we’ve all been hearing his tale of woe for far too long.I don’t have an issue with being used and abused for the 16 months that it took to obtain my PR.I knew what I was getting into,and had spoken to guys already here,working for the same firm,complete strangers to me,but the clear picture of what moving to Canada on the PNP system involved,average wages,all the winter driving bs,waiting for loads,etc etc.
I still used the system,and have no regrets because I’d been visiting Canada since the mid 80’s,and when the chance was made available to permanently move here, without waiting god knows how long for landed status ,it became the relatively "easy"option.As had been said a multitude of times already,do your homework.It isn’t rocket science,get your head down for a short period of time and then reap the benefits,but to the likes of Mickfly and others ,who are under the false impression that they’ve been cheated by dodgy companies,it was obviously too much effort.
I could go on,but have better things to do,like discussing the benefits of 6x4 over 6x2 mid-lift with Carryfast 
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have better things to do,like discussing the benefits of 6x4 over 6x2 mid-lift with Carryfast
Have fun and enjoy, would like to join you but going sticking pins in my eyes 
Of course H&R are profiting from the practice of employing imigrants. The rates for reefer freight are relatively high compared to other freight but sometimes this kind of work can be frustrating for the driver.
For example a meat load from Canada to the southern US might pay over $4,000 but it might take all day to load. One of the biggest problems for trucking companies is finding good quality drivers who are prepared to put up with that.
However If another company has a nearly infinite supply of drivers who either are too new to know any better or else are too concerned about being sent back to the UK to complain obviously that company will have an advantage over the competition.
Big Jon’s dad:
bobthedog:
Trust me, 240 is much worse…I’ve had both 110v and 240v. 110 was quite a while ago mind. Tingled a bit. 240 bites and makes you feel shaky for a while. I have a scar on my hand from touching the live end of a terminal bolt at 240v inside an old hood dryer I thought was unplugged. Not a bright thing to do and I do know better but hey, [zb] happens.
I never told you this before, but i once did a complete service on a dryer , including washing , while the dryer was plugged in, only found out when i went to try and plug the thing in myself… one of the stylists plugged the plug back in while i wasnt looking
I went ballistic at her after i found out and had to take 5 mins to calm down…
I regularly get a belt from the plug pins of 13 amp plugs on some appliances from the suppressor capacitor which is wired across the live and neutral lead to reduce radio static. I curse every time it happens as it makes me jump. It is harmless as the current is so low but it still shocks me.
I always made sure i shorted the pins out on something metallic before trying to pick them up… thought you would know that by now
Oh and 500v hurts a lot more than 240v 
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We used to zap people at college with the insulation testers when I was doing my NVQ in electrical and mechanical engineering. Was quite good if you managed to touch a croc clip to each ear of your victim then press the ‘zap’ button 
PS… Lets try for page 6
wire:
One of the biggest problems for trucking companies is finding good quality drivers who are prepared to put up with that.
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Think you need to get checked out Mark, the problem companies have is ripping the drivers off by not paying them for sitting when, as you have already stated, the rates are normally higher so why aren’t they paying the driver. So maybe the problem isn’t finding good quality drivers but more mugs to rip off
Think you need to get checked out Mark, the problem companies have is ripping the drivers off by not paying them for sitting when, as you have already stated, the rates are normally higher so why aren’t they paying the driver. So maybe the problem isn’t finding good quality drivers but more mugs to rip off
Well phrase the point however you like. The fact is still that they can sit imigrants all day for free so they have an advantage over the reputable companies who don’t have that option hence they are profiting by recruiting from abroad at the expense of the their own drivers.
What Mick says about H&R being a bad company is true, they are a bad company, they must’ve been a bad company for some years, if they weren’t then they would never have had to import drivers from overseas, the laws of supply and demand dictate that, by being a bad company the Canadians would not work there, more than likely that was because of the practices at H&R, things like Mick talks about 
So they carry on regardless as they now have access to a new pool of drivers thanks to the TFW schemes, they carry on as they did before and don’t make any attempts to change the situation so that they can keep drivers, what do they care, as soon as one quits, there’s another victim arriving at Calgary airport ready to take their place
I hold BFS in the same regard, the job is crap, the equipment is crap and they don’t look after it, they view drivers as they would dog ■■■ on their shoe and they couldn’t organise a ■■■■ up in a brewery, drivers are left hanging around waiting for loads, whether at the yard or on the road, similar to Mick’s experience at H&R, we’ve all been told by BFS that we needed to sit around in the driver’s lounge waiting for a job, well bollox to that, I don’t spend one minute on company premises unless I’m being paid, so I didn’t, I then fell further down the pecking order, see a pattern emerging? BFS, H&R, same s[zb]t, different province
Yeah, I know, there are people that do ok on BFS, maybe even at H&R too, but that’s only what they say, it may look like they’re happy on the surface too, but some are scared to leave because of the 3yr contract they signed saying they would reimburse them for training costs, they’ve been here over two years and because of the crap wages they get they can’t afford to pay back a couple of grand, what a load of bollox that is, two years of grafting and they ain’t got a pot to ■■■■ in There are others who don’t want to leave whatever the case, they’re either blue eyed boys in the Mon-Fri club or they’re lazy and happy to sit around for days at a time, of course there are exceptions, but I don’t think you’ll find many of them.
I think these companies are a [zb]ing disgrace and they are doing a great dis-service to the Canadian people, they make their country a misersable experience rather than the happy life it really is
H&R have been in business a long time. BFS have
So what do they have in common, they were started by individuals who passed down the business to their kids. Just because they have been around for ages doesn’t mean they are the same company. I can tell you this from talking to ex BFS drivers who were around when Red was still running the business people were treated alot better then. Thats the difference, the first owner knew what it was like started from scratch, knew what the drivers went through day in day out. Their kids with their golden spoons dont have a clue. It is that simple.
Brentanna:
H&R have been in business a long time. BFS have
So what do they have in common, they were started by individuals who passed down the business to their kids. Just because they have been around for ages doesn’t mean they are the same company. I can tell you this from talking to ex BFS drivers who were around when Red was still running the business people were treated alot better then. Thats the difference, the first owner knew what it was like started from scratch, knew what the drivers went through day in day out. Their kids with their golden spoons dont have a clue. It is that simple.
I was told the same about H&R, the original owner supposedly being a decent type, but his heirs, a holes.
Big Jon’s dad:
mickfly:
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mickfly:
Big Jon’s dad:
I assumed Mick was talking about qualified nurses and Police moving to Canada.
.Yes I was.
If they need further training to bring them up to speed, do they pay for it?Yet again talking bollox.My wife was a highly qualified nurse in blighty,but to work here would involve taking a degree at uni,at her expense,guess what ? She isn’t nursing.We succeeded,you failed,end of story.
Bit harsh maybe,but sometimes you need to let goI was asking a question, you answered regarding nurses.
Now, why would you want me to let go?
Because you go on and on and on and on. It gets tiresome after a while and just becomes a whine. You devalue your story by over telling it.
How many post have I made about H&R here?
It also gets tiresome I’m sure when you mention again that you fixed timepieces, and used to employ 4 people but they were too lazy!
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Because we’ve all been hearing his tale of woe for far too long.I don’t have an issue with being used and abused for the 16 months that it took to obtain my PR.I knew what I was getting into,and had spoken to guys already here,working for the same firm,complete strangers to me,but the clear picture of what moving to Canada on the PNP system involved,average wages,all the winter driving bs,waiting for loads,etc etc.
I still used the system,and have no regrets because I’d been visiting Canada since the mid 80’s,and when the chance was made available to permanently move here, without waiting god knows how long for landed status ,it became the relatively "easy"option.As had been said a multitude of times already,do your homework.It isn’t rocket science,get your head down for a short period of time and then reap the benefits,but to the likes of Mickfly and others ,who are under the false impression that they’ve been cheated by dodgy companies,it was obviously too much effort.
I could go on,but have better things to do,like discussing the benefits of 6x4 over 6x2 mid-lift with Carryfast
Feel free to ignore my posts.
afl.org/index.php/Press-Rele … oyers.html
The report also details new information on number of TFW entries to Alberta, and finds that TFW entries in 2009, despite the recession, were the same as 2007 numbers. Furthermore, TFW entries now substantially outpace new immigrants, showing that our province has now become a revolving door for a disposable workforce, rather than a welcoming place where immigrants come to build their lives.
“Our findings have shown that despite much higher unemployment, particularly among young Albertans, we continued to bring in thousands of Temporary Foreign Workers for low-skilled occupations,” says McGowan. "This suggests that the TFW program was never about a labour shortage. It was - and is - about suppressing normal wage growth for the lowest-income Albertans and TFWs working in lower-skilled occupations," adds McGowan.
mickfly:
How many post have I made about H&R here?It also gets tiresome I’m sure when you mention again that you fixed timepieces, and used to employ 4 people but they were too lazy!
Who knows? It isn’t just here though is it Mick? You’ve whined all over the place, every chance you get.
I haven’t mentioned repairing clocks more than a couple of times and I have never whinged about fixing clocks at all, so it is hardly comparable is it?
You asked if I was a truck driver, now you complain because I talked about my work history in response? Weird!
I employed 4 people yes. Did I say they were lazy, no, I said I worked harder in my own business than my employees did. In small businesses this would be considered normal.
If you can’t debate without telling porkies then you really are a loser. ■■■■ it up, move on 
The report also details new information on number of TFW entries to Alberta, and finds that TFW entries in 2009, despite the recession, were the same as 2007 numbers. Furthermore, TFW entries now substantially outpace new immigrants, showing that our province has now become a revolving door for a disposable workforce, rather than a welcoming place where immigrants come to build their lives.
“Our findings have shown that despite much higher unemployment, particularly among young Albertans, we continued to bring in thousands of Temporary Foreign Workers for low-skilled occupations,” says McGowan. "This suggests that the TFW program was never about a labour shortage. It was - and is - about suppressing normal wage growth for the lowest-income Albertans and TFWs working in lower-skilled occupations," adds McGowan.
Now look who the report comes from. They wouldn’t be in the least bit biased would they, oh no. Would they be following an agenda, yep. Would that agenda be helping TFWs, nope, they are just a convenient hook to hang their campaign for workers rights on. Unions, love 'em or hate 'em, eh?
TFW, what does that mean? There is a clue in the first word. The whole idea of TFW is that they leave after a period of work. It isn’t supposed to be a route to immigration. The prospect of PR is one of the carrots used to attract TFW but the TFW should not expect it as an automatic right.