Big Jon’s dad:
Take this man outside and shoot him! How dare he disagree in those terms!
How is it costing everyone? I would suggest it would cost everyone plenty if poor quality immigrants were allowed to enter and stay in Canada. Better they get weeded out before they arrive but otherwise get shot of them as soon as they are found to be unsuitable.
Canada only wants migrants that are going to make a positive contribution to Canada. It does not want migrants that will be a drain on the public ■■■■■.
As someone else said employers provide jobs to employees for one reason, to make themselves money. Employers are not in business to be the social services.
Further to that it is not in drivers interests to have poor quality immigrant drivers bringing down the reputation of all truckdrivers.
As you know, driving in Canada requires more from a driver than driving in the UK and Europe. It doesn’t suit everyone but how can you find out who is suitable?
You could devise some sort of test, or you could let them try it for a period. The ones that can adapt to change pass, the others… Well, they leave. Sorted!
It is costing everyone because the tax payers are paying for all the admin to get these TFW over to Canada and issued with a WP which the TFW then pays for, the companies are suffering and as a result so are the employees of the companies and as a result of that the whole industry starts to suffer so in effect we are all paying for the like of BFS and H&R recruitment policies (if he has a licence and a pulse hire him)
As the TFW is paying, it isn’t costing the taxpayer. The taxpayer is saving money by weeding out those without the right skills and attitudes. Hopefully not too many whiners get through.
So in your extremely knowledgeable position as a dual citizen you consider $150 that the TFW pays for a WP also is enough to cover all the cost of the admin and paperwork before the applicant is successful not taking into account the unsuccessful ones that dont pay anything. Read my post again the applicant pays for the WP not what goes on before it is issued lmfao
I’m sort of in agreement with BJD, the ones that are not going to make it don’t last long, but I disagree that it’s a good way to do things, it causes a lot of problems, both for the Canadians and the immigrants
Big Jon’s dad:
Take this man outside and shoot him! How dare he disagree in those terms!
How is it costing everyone? I would suggest it would cost everyone plenty if poor quality immigrants were allowed to enter and stay in Canada. Better they get weeded out before they arrive but otherwise get shot of them as soon as they are found to be unsuitable.
Canada only wants migrants that are going to make a positive contribution to Canada. It does not want migrants that will be a drain on the public ■■■■■.
As someone else said employers provide jobs to employees for one reason, to make themselves money. Employers are not in business to be the social services.
Further to that it is not in drivers interests to have poor quality immigrant drivers bringing down the reputation of all truckdrivers.
As you know, driving in Canada requires more from a driver than driving in the UK and Europe. It doesn’t suit everyone but how can you find out who is suitable?
You could devise some sort of test, or you could let them try it for a period. The ones that can adapt to change pass, the others… Well, they leave. Sorted!
It is costing everyone because the tax payers are paying for all the admin to get these TFW over to Canada and issued with a WP which the TFW then pays for, the companies are suffering and as a result so are the employees of the companies and as a result of that the whole industry starts to suffer so in effect we are all paying for the like of BFS and H&R recruitment policies (if he has a licence and a pulse hire him)
As the TFW is paying, it isn’t costing the taxpayer. The taxpayer is saving money by weeding out those without the right skills and attitudes. Hopefully not too many whiners get through.
So in your extremely knowledgeable position as a dual citizen you consider $150 that the TFW pays for a WP also is enough to cover all the cost of the admin and paperwork before the applicant is successful not taking into account the unsuccessful ones that dont pay anything. Read my post again the applicant pays for the WP not what goes on before it is issued lmfao
The whole thing is a process of finding suitable candidates. The overall cost includes the cost of rejects. The process works. The process is no different from manufacturing widgets, all the widgets cost the same, some turn out to be rejects but overall, the good ones are worth the combined cost of both good and rejects. Shame for the rejects but unless a way can be found of eliminating the rejects we have to allow for some failures.
Guys is it really necessary to quote quotes of quotes of quotes when all that has been added is one line of new discussion ?
Its kinda sorta like paying 25.00 for your drivers licence, there is more to the cost than the 25.00 you pay per year. That is picked up by others in the case of the licence here the additional cost is added to car registration and other insurance. The taxpayer is always on the losing end of anything the government puts into effect. If it has to do with the government it costs taxpayers money. Look at those stupid ID cards that they spent 16 million dollars on and less than 2000 people signed up for the cards. Just so they didnt have to spend 95.00 for a passport. They cound pay 25.00 for the MB enhanced ID card. It would have been cheaper just to give them the dam 95.00 as a deduction from their taxes. But thats not how the government works or thinks, errrr maybe they think we are not sure. Is there a requirement to have a brain to be in government?
newmercman:
I’m sort of in agreement with BJD, the ones that are not going to make it don’t last long, but I disagree that it’s a good way to do things, it causes a lot of problems, both for the Canadians and the immigrants
I’m rather extreme at times, especially when a debate becomes polarised.
Some people think I’m more right wing than Attilla the Hun.
Not many people call me a socialist.
Brentanna:
Its kinda sorta like paying 25.00 for your drivers licence, there is more to the cost than the 25.00 you pay per year. That is picked up by others in the case of the licence here the additional cost is added to car registration and other insurance. The taxpayer is always on the losing end of anything the government puts into effect. If it has to do with the government it costs taxpayers money. Look at those stupid ID cards that they spent 16 million dollars on and less than 2000 people signed up for the cards. Just so they didnt have to spend 95.00 for a passport. They cound pay 25.00 for the MB enhanced ID card. It would have been cheaper just to give them the dam 95.00 as a deduction from their taxes. But thats not how the government works or thinks, errrr maybe they think we are not sure. Is there a requirement to have a brain to be in government?
Thank you, put much better than I have been trying to but the situation with TFW is costing everyone.
Brentanna:
Its kinda sorta like paying 25.00 for your drivers licence, there is more to the cost than the 25.00 you pay per year. That is picked up by others in the case of the licence here the additional cost is added to car registration and other insurance. The taxpayer is always on the losing end of anything the government puts into effect. If it has to do with the government it costs taxpayers money. Look at those stupid ID cards that they spent 16 million dollars on and less than 2000 people signed up for the cards. Just so they didnt have to spend 95.00 for a passport. They cound pay 25.00 for the MB enhanced ID card. It would have been cheaper just to give them the dam 95.00 as a deduction from their taxes. But thats not how the government works or thinks, errrr maybe they think we are not sure. Is there a requirement to have a brain to be in government?
Thank you, put much better than I have been trying to but the situation with TFW is costing everyone.
Ok, give us your solution to finding suitable people and preventing the undesirables from entering or staying.
What we have now works after a fashion so your solution needs to improve on what we already have.
Brentanna:
Guys is it really necessary to quote quotes of quotes of quotes when all that has been added is one line of new discussion ?
No, but is is quicker and easier to see who you are replying to.
No it isn’t and it really get’s my goat, you should go onto the old time drivers forum, there’s a couple of people on there that do it all the time, however I’ve resisted the impulse to mention it because I didn’t want to appear too pendantic
Brentanna:
Guys is it really necessary to quote quotes of quotes of quotes when all that has been added is one line of new discussion ?
No, but is is quicker and easier to see who you are replying to.
No it isn’t and it really get’s my goat, you should go onto the old time drivers forum, there’s a couple of people on there that do it all the time, however I’ve resisted the impulse to mention it because I didn’t want to appear too pendantic
LOL as he quotes quotes again…
Game on, how many layers of quotes can we get up to before someone complains. Last post before the complaint is the loser. Your move.
newmercman:
No it isn’t and it really get’s my goat, you should go onto the old time drivers forum, there’s a couple of people on there that do it all the time, however I’ve resisted the impulse to mention it because I didn’t want to appear too pendantic
Not like you to keep your mouth shut when you have something to say
Brentanna:
Its kinda sorta like paying 25.00 for your drivers licence, there is more to the cost than the 25.00 you pay per year. That is picked up by others in the case of the licence here the additional cost is added to car registration and other insurance. The taxpayer is always on the losing end of anything the government puts into effect. If it has to do with the government it costs taxpayers money. Look at those stupid ID cards that they spent 16 million dollars on and less than 2000 people signed up for the cards. Just so they didnt have to spend 95.00 for a passport. They cound pay 25.00 for the MB enhanced ID card. It would have been cheaper just to give them the dam 95.00 as a deduction from their taxes. But thats not how the government works or thinks, errrr maybe they think we are not sure. Is there a requirement to have a brain to be in government?
Thank you, put much better than I have been trying to but the situation with TFW is costing everyone.
Ok, give us your solution to finding suitable people and preventing the undesirables from entering or staying.
What we have now works after a fashion so your solution needs to improve on what we already have.
Simple, better recruitment policies from the companies with LMO’s and better driver retention, if they can’t meet the standards laid down they can’t recruit TFW
It takes more than a class 1 licence and a pulse to make it out here
dave_lol66:
Simple, better recruitment policies from the companies with LMO’s and better driver retention, if they can’t meet the standards laid down they can’t recruit TFW
It takes more than a class 1 licence and a pulse to make it out here
Sounds like a paradox.
From what I read though, most companies aren’t bothering to recruit from the UK anymore.
Maybe they can’t find the quality of recruit they want anymore in the UK?
dave_lol66:
Simple, better recruitment policies from the companies with LMO’s and better driver retention, if they can’t meet the standards laid down they can’t recruit TFW
It takes more than a class 1 licence and a pulse to make it out here
Sounds like a paradox.
From what I read though, most companies aren’t bothering to recruit from the UK anymore.
Maybe they can’t find the quality of recruit they want anymore in the UK?
Explain how it sounds like a paradox!!
Their reputations are so badly dented it’s no longer worth their while recruiting in UK, so lets go farther afield where thay are not so well known and can get even more unsuspecting recruits from one recruitment drive.
dave_lol66:
Simple, better recruitment policies from the companies with LMO’s and better driver retention, if they can’t meet the standards laid down they can’t recruit TFW
It takes more than a class 1 licence and a pulse to make it out here
Sounds like a paradox.
From what I read though, most companies aren’t bothering to recruit from the UK anymore.
Maybe they can’t find the quality of recruit they want anymore in the UK?
Explain how it sounds like a paradox!!
Their reputations are so badly dented it’s no longer worth their while recruiting in UK, so lets go farther afield where thay are not so well known and can get even more unsuspecting recruits from one recruitment drive.
That’s it Dave, their reputations are too tarnished to get LMOs for people from civilised countries, so now they’re training up refugees
newmercman wrote:
Big Jon’s dad wrote:
Brentanna wrote:
Guys is it really necessary to quote quotes of quotes of quotes when all that has been added is one line of new discussion ?
No, but is is quicker and easier to see who you are replying to.
No it isn’t and it really get’s my goat, you should go onto the old time drivers forum, there’s a couple of people on there that do it all the time, however I’ve resisted the impulse to mention it because I didn’t want to appear too pendantic
LOL as he quotes quotes again…
Game on, how many layers of quotes can we get up to before someone complains. Last post before the complaint is the loser. Your move.
How about a double quote of quote on quote on quote, your serve
newmercman:
No it isn’t and it really get’s my goat, you should go onto the old time drivers forum, there’s a couple of people on there that do it all the time, however I’ve resisted the impulse to mention it because I didn’t want to appear too pendantic
Not like you to keep your mouth shut when you have something to say
newmercman:
No it isn’t and it really get’s my goat, you should go onto the old time drivers forum, there’s a couple of people on there that do it all the time, however I’ve resisted the impulse to mention it because I didn’t want to appear too pendantic
Not like you to keep your mouth shut when you have something to say
newmercman:
No it isn’t and it really get’s my goat, you should go onto the old time drivers forum, there’s a couple of people on there that do it all the time, however I’ve resisted the impulse to mention it because I didn’t want to appear too pendantic
Not like you to keep your mouth shut when you have something to say
Drive two days on wide open roads in a very spacious comfortable truck, then do one delivery, and park overnight at great truck stops (in the US, not the Canadian sheetholes). Re-load and drive for a few more days without touching the load, then probably another single drop, etc etc.
The easiest job I ever had!
I can tell that your Canada/US career didn’t take in too many winters over here.
