Mick,
The only people that get ‘abuse’ are the ones who blame the country for their problems and tell the rest of us that we are failiures etc.
H&R, BFS, Ayr etc are crap firms, it’s very hard to make it whilst you work at any of them, but if you move companies you can have a good life/job, there are many who have made the move to one of these firms and had to go back to the UK because they’ve been starved out of Canada, but they blame the whole country and every firm in it, in doing that they paint the wrong picture, it is possible to make it over here, there are many that have done so and have no regrets 
Brentanna:
Read again I have asked a number of times that he be baned, but the men here kinda like how stupid he is and enjoy proving him wrong. 
Which isnt hard with the crap he comes up with, I have met 5 year olds who are smarter.
Now then Brentanna, you’re getting close to starting with the personal stuff all over again. 
If only you realised how much that cheapens your other comments, which then loses you the moral high-ground…
Whether Robbie posts utter crap is entirely up to him (NOT YOU,) and the folks who read his posts can judge stuff for themselves once you or anybody else who cares to answer puts their viewpoint across. Whatever else you say about Robbie, he doesn’t get all personal and insulting.
Instead of sniping at Robbie, why don’t you make use of the ‘report’ button and let the Mod/Admin Team do their job if his posts offend you so much?
Of course, the easy way is that you could simply ignore his posts.
As for asking that Robbie be banned, please realise that a ban is part of the forum sanctions system, so I’d suggest that you might be digging yourself a bit of a hole with that suggestion since YOU seem to break forum rules far more often than Robbie does.
dieseldave:
Brentanna:
Read again I have asked a number of times that he be baned, but the men here kinda like how stupid he is and enjoy proving him wrong. Which isnt hard with the crap he comes up with, I have met 5 year olds who are smarter.
Now then Brentanna, you’re getting close to starting with the personal stuff all over again.
If only you realised how much that cheapens your other comments, which then loses you the moral high-ground…
Whether Robbie posts utter crap is entirely up to him (NOT YOU,) and the folks who read his posts can judge stuff for themselves once you or anybody else who cares to answer puts their viewpoint across. Whatever else you say about Robbie, he doesn’t get all personal and insulting.
Instead of sniping at Robbie, why don’t you make use of the ‘report’ button and let the Mod/Admin Team do their job if his posts offend you so much?
Of course, the easy way is that you could simply ignore his posts.
As for asking that Robbie be banned, please realise that a ban is part of the forum sanctions system, so I’d suggest that you might be digging yourself a bit of a hole with that suggestion since YOU seem to break forum rules far more often than Robbie does.
Please explain why robbie is allowed to post insults at us as a group without interfering moderation yet one honest and truthful comment gets a post removed 
mickfly:
Unfortunately the good firms seem to have difficulty getting LMO’s nowadays, so jumping is not so easy.
The good firms can’t get LMOs because the only way to get an LMO is by proving that you can’t get Canadians/Landed Status/PRs etc to work at the company, obviously the good companies have no problems doing this, so LMOs are unnecessary, that’s where you have to sell yourself, My company has only ever done one LMO and that was for me, they did it because I somehow managed to convince them that I was worth it, 2 and a half years later they haven’t found me out yet
dave_lol66:
dieseldave:
Brentanna:
Read again I have asked a number of times that he be baned, but the men here kinda like how stupid he is and enjoy proving him wrong. Which isnt hard with the crap he comes up with, I have met 5 year olds who are smarter.
Now then Brentanna, you’re getting close to starting with the personal stuff all over again.
If only you realised how much that cheapens your other comments, which then loses you the moral high-ground…
Whether Robbie posts utter crap is entirely up to him (NOT YOU,) and the folks who read his posts can judge stuff for themselves once you or anybody else who cares to answer puts their viewpoint across. Whatever else you say about Robbie, he doesn’t get all personal and insulting.
Instead of sniping at Robbie, why don’t you make use of the ‘report’ button and let the Mod/Admin Team do their job if his posts offend you so much?
Of course, the easy way is that you could simply ignore his posts.
As for asking that Robbie be banned, please realise that a ban is part of the forum sanctions system, so I’d suggest that you might be digging yourself a bit of a hole with that suggestion since YOU seem to break forum rules far more often than Robbie does.
Please explain why robbie is allowed to post insults at us as a group without interfering moderation yet one honest and truthful comment gets a post removed
Dave, if robbbie didn’t post his bollox this forum would be a bit quiet, at least he gives us something to do while we’re waiting to be opressed and manipulated by our slave driving bosses
I would like just once for Robbbieee to post his source rather than quote from something god knows where he gets it from. Then again if he gets his from his ■■■ as seems to be the case does one really want to know 
newmercman:
Dave, if robbbie didn’t post his bollox this forum would be a bit quiet, at least he gives us something to do while we’re waiting to be opressed and manipulated by our slave driving bosses
You need to join a union, Mark.
Brentanna:
I would like just once for Robbbieee to post his source rather than quote from something god knows where he gets it from. Then again if he gets his from his ■■■ as seems to be the case does one really want to know
Now there’s a great idea. 
I’ve asked for a source on another of Robbie’s posts, so we’ll see what comes.
mickfly:
I was even told by the boss of the company to, and I really do quote his exact words… “■■■■ it up Mikey boy, it’s the Canadian way” when I was given 4 days to drive 600 miles.
Shouldn’t the Canadian gov’t or YOU Canadian drivers be doing something to stop the constant turn around of Brits/Dutch/Belgian/German drivers
I wonder what was said prior to the bosses retort, eh?
It is not in the interest of either the Canadian Government, or the other drivers to bend over to help economic migrants. It is in their interest to keep the highest quality migrants and get rid of the rest. Sorting the wheat from the chaff. There is no requirement for more riff raff, we have enough of our own home grown variety. The crap companies do a fine job of testing out how resiliant adaptable and resourceful the TFWs are. Those that can adapt, and overcome the difficulties, stay, the others who were less flexible leave and Canada is better off without them. It isn’t a perfect system but so long as there is a renewable source of TFWs it is sustainable.
Big Jon’s dad:
mickfly:
I was even told by the boss of the company to, and I really do quote his exact words… “■■■■ it up Mikey boy, it’s the Canadian way” when I was given 4 days to drive 600 miles.
Shouldn’t the Canadian gov’t or YOU Canadian drivers be doing something to stop the constant turn around of Brits/Dutch/Belgian/German drivers
I wonder what was said prior to the bosses retort, eh?
It is not in the interest of either the Canadian Government, or the other drivers to bend over to help economic migrants. It is in their interest to keep the highest quality migrants and get rid of the rest. Sorting the wheat from the chaff. There is no requirement for more riff raff, we have enough of our own home grown variety. The crap companies do a fine job of testing out how resiliant adaptable and resourceful the TFWs are. Those that can adapt, and overcome the difficulties, stay, the others who were less flexible leave and Canada is better off without them. It isn’t a perfect system but so long as there is a renewable source of TFWs it is sustainable.
Completely, totally and in the strongest terms disagree. It is costing everyone, government, tax payers and companies a fortune for failed TFW when by and large the companies are to blame for the standard of the recruits and then the treatment, or mis-treatment, of the TFW.
dave_lol66:
Big Jon’s dad:
mickfly:
I was even told by the boss of the company to, and I really do quote his exact words… “■■■■ it up Mikey boy, it’s the Canadian way” when I was given 4 days to drive 600 miles.
Shouldn’t the Canadian gov’t or YOU Canadian drivers be doing something to stop the constant turn around of Brits/Dutch/Belgian/German drivers
I wonder what was said prior to the bosses retort, eh?
It is not in the interest of either the Canadian Government, or the other drivers to bend over to help economic migrants. It is in their interest to keep the highest quality migrants and get rid of the rest. Sorting the wheat from the chaff. There is no requirement for more riff raff, we have enough of our own home grown variety. The crap companies do a fine job of testing out how resiliant adaptable and resourceful the TFWs are. Those that can adapt, and overcome the difficulties, stay, the others who were less flexible leave and Canada is better off without them. It isn’t a perfect system but so long as there is a renewable source of TFWs it is sustainable.
Completely, totally and in the strongest terms disagree. It is costing everyone, government, tax payers and companies a fortune for failed TFW when by and large the companies are to blame for the standard of the recruits and then the treatment, or mis-treatment, of the TFW.
Take this man outside and shoot him! How dare he disagree in those terms!
How is it costing everyone? I would suggest it would cost everyone plenty if poor quality immigrants were allowed to enter and stay in Canada. Better they get weeded out before they arrive but otherwise get shot of them as soon as they are found to be unsuitable. 
Canada only wants migrants that are going to make a positive contribution to Canada. It does not want migrants that will be a drain on the public ■■■■■.
As someone else said employers provide jobs to employees for one reason, to make themselves money. Employers are not in business to be the social services.
Further to that it is not in drivers interests to have poor quality immigrant drivers bringing down the reputation of all truckdrivers.
As you know, driving in Canada requires more from a driver than driving in the UK and Europe. It doesn’t suit everyone but how can you find out who is suitable?
You could devise some sort of test, or you could let them try it for a period. The ones that can adapt to change pass, the others… Well, they leave. Sorted!
Big Jon’s dad:
mickfly:
I was even told by the boss of the company to, and I really do quote his exact words… “■■■■ it up Mikey boy, it’s the Canadian way” when I was given 4 days to drive 600 miles.
Shouldn’t the Canadian gov’t or YOU Canadian drivers be doing something to stop the constant turn around of Brits/Dutch/Belgian/German drivers
I wonder what was said prior to the bosses retort, eh?
It is not in the interest of either the Canadian Government, or the other drivers to bend over to help economic migrants. It is in their interest to keep the highest quality migrants and get rid of the rest. Sorting the wheat from the chaff. There is no requirement for more riff raff, we have enough of our own home grown variety. The crap companies do a fine job of testing out how resiliant adaptable and resourceful the TFWs are. Those that can adapt, and overcome the difficulties, stay, the others who were less flexible leave and Canada is better off without them. It isn’t a perfect system but so long as there is a renewable source of TFWs it is sustainable.
“I wonder what was said prior to the bosses retort, eh?”
It doesn’t matter what was said, you have already decided that you know all about the TFW situation in Canada!
Big Jon’s dad:
As you know, driving in Canada requires more from a driver than driving in the UK and Europe.
Completely wrong and very ignorant statement.
Drive two days on wide open roads in a very spacious comfortable truck, then do one delivery, and park overnight at great truck stops (in the US, not the Canadian sheetholes). Re-load and drive for a few more days without touching the load, then probably another single drop, etc etc.
The easiest job I ever had!
BTW: there ARE checks on people coming into Canada, Police decleration, health checks etc, and then we have to pass the Canadian class 1 truck test, so not many people cross to a different continent on a whim, and they certainly (as experienced drivers) DON’T return because the job is too hard.
Big Jon’s dad:
Canada only wants migrants that are going to make a positive contribution to Canada. It does not want migrants that will be a drain on the public ■■■■■.
European truck drivers do not go to Canada to be welfare scroungers, and as far as I know they get bugger all anyway if they get sacked, so hardly going to be a drain on the public ■■■■■.
As someone who has NEVER claimed a penny in the UK from the public ■■■■■, I am hardly going to go to Canada to be on the ‘dole’ am I?
Big Jon’s dad:
Take this man outside and shoot him! How dare he disagree in those terms!
How is it costing everyone? I would suggest it would cost everyone plenty if poor quality immigrants were allowed to enter and stay in Canada. Better they get weeded out before they arrive but otherwise get shot of them as soon as they are found to be unsuitable.
Canada only wants migrants that are going to make a positive contribution to Canada. It does not want migrants that will be a drain on the public ■■■■■.
As someone else said employers provide jobs to employees for one reason, to make themselves money. Employers are not in business to be the social services.
Further to that it is not in drivers interests to have poor quality immigrant drivers bringing down the reputation of all truckdrivers.
As you know, driving in Canada requires more from a driver than driving in the UK and Europe. It doesn’t suit everyone but how can you find out who is suitable?
You could devise some sort of test, or you could let them try it for a period. The ones that can adapt to change pass, the others… Well, they leave. Sorted!
It is costing everyone because the tax payers are paying for all the admin to get these TFW over to Canada and issued with a WP which the TFW then pays for, the companies are suffering and as a result so are the employees of the companies and as a result of that the whole industry starts to suffer so in effect we are all paying for the like of BFS and H&R recruitment policies (if he has a licence and a pulse hire him)
mickfly:
Big Jon’s dad:
mickfly:
I was even told by the boss of the company to, and I really do quote his exact words… “■■■■ it up Mikey boy, it’s the Canadian way” when I was given 4 days to drive 600 miles.
Shouldn’t the Canadian gov’t or YOU Canadian drivers be doing something to stop the constant turn around of Brits/Dutch/Belgian/German drivers
I wonder what was said prior to the bosses retort, eh?
It is not in the interest of either the Canadian Government, or the other drivers to bend over to help economic migrants. It is in their interest to keep the highest quality migrants and get rid of the rest. Sorting the wheat from the chaff. There is no requirement for more riff raff, we have enough of our own home grown variety. The crap companies do a fine job of testing out how resiliant adaptable and resourceful the TFWs are. Those that can adapt, and overcome the difficulties, stay, the others who were less flexible leave and Canada is better off without them. It isn’t a perfect system but so long as there is a renewable source of TFWs it is sustainable.
“I wonder what was said prior to the bosses retort, eh?”
It doesn’t matter what was said, you have already decided that you know all about the TFW situation in Canada!
It doesn’t matter what was said
I suspect it may matter quite a lot from the general tone of your other posts.
You sure you need that big a shovel?
mickfly:
Big Jon’s dad:
As you know, driving in Canada requires more from a driver than driving in the UK and Europe.
Completely wrong and very ignorant statement.
Drive two days on wide open roads in a very spacious comfortable truck, then do one delivery, and park overnight at great truck stops (in the US, not the Canadian sheetholes). Re-load and drive for a few more days without touching the load, then probably another single drop, etc etc.
The easiest job I ever had!
BTW: there ARE checks on people coming into Canada, Police decleration, health checks etc, and then we have to pass the Canadian class 1 truck test, so not many people cross to a different continent on a whim, and they certainly (as experienced drivers) DON’T return because the job is too hard.
Big Jon’s dad:
Canada only wants migrants that are going to make a positive contribution to Canada. It does not want migrants that will be a drain on the public ■■■■■.
European truck drivers do not go to Canada to be welfare scroungers, and as far as I know they get bugger all anyway if they get sacked, so hardly going to be a drain on the public ■■■■■.
As someone who has NEVER claimed a penny in the UK from the public ■■■■■, I am hardly going to go to Canada to be on the ‘dole’ am I?
I guess there needs to be an attitude test too.
I wonder why some drivers are doing OK while others seem to attract all the crap from their employer.
Is it simply luck or do you make your own luck?
dave_lol66:
Big Jon’s dad:
Take this man outside and shoot him! How dare he disagree in those terms!
How is it costing everyone? I would suggest it would cost everyone plenty if poor quality immigrants were allowed to enter and stay in Canada. Better they get weeded out before they arrive but otherwise get shot of them as soon as they are found to be unsuitable.
Canada only wants migrants that are going to make a positive contribution to Canada. It does not want migrants that will be a drain on the public ■■■■■.
As someone else said employers provide jobs to employees for one reason, to make themselves money. Employers are not in business to be the social services.
Further to that it is not in drivers interests to have poor quality immigrant drivers bringing down the reputation of all truckdrivers.
As you know, driving in Canada requires more from a driver than driving in the UK and Europe. It doesn’t suit everyone but how can you find out who is suitable?
You could devise some sort of test, or you could let them try it for a period. The ones that can adapt to change pass, the others… Well, they leave. Sorted!
It is costing everyone because the tax payers are paying for all the admin to get these TFW over to Canada and issued with a WP which the TFW then pays for, the companies are suffering and as a result so are the employees of the companies and as a result of that the whole industry starts to suffer so in effect we are all paying for the like of BFS and H&R recruitment policies (if he has a licence and a pulse hire him)
As the TFW is paying, it isn’t costing the taxpayer. The taxpayer is saving money by weeding out those without the right skills and attitudes. Hopefully not too many whiners get through.