Scrapbook Memories (Part 1)

bubbleman:

Ken Kings Constructor 8 looks pretty new,cant remember where I took it :unamused:

Cheers Bubbs, :wink:

LOOK NO EASY SHEET !
another cracker , last i seen this was hauling feed out from lloyds animal feeds in langport many years back , & she didn’t look that good either ! looks like another of kens in blue isn’t far behind
will ask adrian king if ken can dig out some pics for us
have you any of ken kings F7 6wheeler , same stripe livery but in green & white , shame when ken sold up , & got rid of the main of the fleet , was sad to see the trucks being driven away up the road , or just dissapear on the back of a low loader :frowning:

Dieselcowboy:

MolePower:

bubbleman:
Hi again,Nice pic Ash,still off work then mate :confused: …heres todays stuff


One for Moley,seen on the bit of dual carriageway between the M5 and the A38 at North Petherton.

Cheers Bubbs, :wink:

ah thanks bubbs ,
dorchester lorry that one , only used it once not a bad truck either , fast as you like & quick to get there as well , shame the manouvereability & gearbox lets it down in confined spaces , MVF got two 8x4 & two 8x2 rear steer/lift

where in Dorchester were they based?

got a 8x2 at bridgwater ,an 8x4 & 8x2 at lifton & this 8x4 in dorchester , well we call it dorchester , but it’s actually at piddlehinton up round where ex-hanfords mill is up round the old army camp

Hi again,Good Thomasons stuff Ash…well done mate,also nice info on the MVF DAF Moley…another one coming up today :smiley:

Whitwills of Avonmouth having a rest in Aust services.


Heading west on the M4,Creggans 143s in the slow lane :open_mouth: :open_mouth:


Nice load of pipes on the back of Tom Shanks DAF 95,seen at the BP Truckstop Rugby.


M.J.Pickerings Strato in a quarry somewhere in Leicestershire


Seen on the A361 near Frome,Hillmans FL7 is going for another load of blocks.


Another for Moley,seen in July earlier this year heading south on the M5 near Gordano services.

Cheers Bubbs, :wink:

truckerash:
Anyone remember Thomason’s ? Mainstay of the fleet were Saviem’s. Quite rare to have a large fleet of them in those days. There were a couple of Scanias too.

I’ve found a mint company brochure while tidying me cupboards so here it is :slight_smile:
Front and back cover, when opened up it’s a lovely fleet line up.





truckerash any idea when the thomasons leaflet was printed :question:

Hello all, Bubbleman, Trucker Ash, and all contributors, what an incredible thread this is! Gaz70, I would think the Thomason leaflet would have been about 1979/1980, as they have their first TR280s. Although not directly involved with Thomasons, I did meet David and Peter on a number of occasions. Incidentaly their Brochure seems to be a close copy of one of my old clients Trannports Galopin, publicity handouts!! Thomasons involvment with Saviem, then Renault sprang from an agreement with the first UK distributor, Nickersons. Primarily an oil distributor, based at Gt Ducie street Manchester, whose transport arm was located at Grange Lane North Scunthorpe. The first tractors imported were really to Nickersons tipper fleet spec, 192hp SM 32240. 12sp ZF single reduction with lock actuator braking. Really designed to compete with the F86, & Scania80. The engine was the inclined MAN naturally aspirated 2156. Imports commenced 1974. 1975 the newly formed RVI (the amalgamation of Saviem and Berliet) replaced Nickersons. The 32.240 was dropped, and replaced by the 36.280, 242hp Turbocharged unit. Quite a driveable, lightweight, tractor unit. Once heard never forgotten! The Deputy Managing Director being my old colleague from Surenses Daniel Laffly, later to import and sell Lamberet fridge trailers in the UK… And I think he sold a few to Thomasons. At that time we were in total chaos in France, for some reason best known to the UK importer, they were requesting an obsolete model spec. Saviems offering in Europe being the SM280TU, the equivelent of MANs 32.240, with the upright engine. A far more competitive vehicle for the UK market. In the wings was the sensational PS30, sadly never to be seen in the UK. This was a 4x2 38tonne, Turbocharged 280hp, with either the Saviem GV350 10sp synchromesh box, or the St Nazaire built 13sp Fuller. With the latter, performance was sensational! The cab was an almost flat floor version of the existing Saviem cab, being lifted by almost 300mm from the existing. Weight, under 7000kgs. Well we all know what happened, Europe was given the Berliet tractor range post merger, and eventually a semblance of build quality was obtained! As an aside, I received a fearful rollicking from my boss, following Truck Magazines 1977 Euro Test. Why? I had been sitting with my old friend the late Pat Kennet, just chatting away about the various contenders, V8 Scania, Berliet TR305, ■■■■■■■ Foden, Barreros, (and did`nt she surprise us all)! and MAN 280. Without thinking I said, “the winner will be the MAN” and qualified my statement with some" hypothetical "results, which of course were taken from our field trials of the PS30. The MAN was sensational, far better than Pat ever printed, and it won. I think in 1978 it was voted Truck of the Year. Pat, being Pat went digging to try to get a PS30 for test. It was easy for my superiors to track down the “non party line Berliet man”, so I was on the carpet in a big way.Hey, sorry if it has bored you, this thread does stimulate the old memories. Anybody have a shot of a PS30, the best tractor we never had!! Cheerio for now.

Saviem:
Thomasons involvment with Saviem, then Renault sprang from an agreement with the first UK distributor, Nickersons. Primarily an oil distributor, based at Gt Ducie street Manchester, whose transport arm was located at Grange Lane North Scunthorpe. The first tractors imported were really to Nickersons tipper fleet spec, 192hp SM 32240. 12sp ZF single reduction with lock actuator braking. Really designed to compete with the F86, & Scania80. The engine was the inclined MAN naturally aspirated 2156. Imports commenced 1974. 1975 the newly formed RVI (the amalgamation of Saviem and Berliet) replaced Nickersons. The 32.240 was dropped, and replaced by the 36.280, 242hp Turbocharged unit. Quite a driveable, lightweight, tractor unit. Once heard never forgotten! The Deputy Managing Director being my old colleague from Surenses Daniel Laffly, later to import and sell Lamberet fridge trailers in the UK… And I think he sold a few to Thomasons. At that time we were in total chaos in France, for some reason best known to the UK importer, they were requesting an obsolete model spec. Saviems offering in Europe being the SM280TU, the equivelent of MANs 32.240, with the upright engine. A far more competitive vehicle for the UK market. In the wings was the sensational PS30, sadly never to be seen in the UK. This was a 4x2 38tonne, Turbocharged 280hp, with either the Saviem GV350 10sp synchromesh box, or the St Nazaire built 13sp Fuller. With the latter, performance was sensational! The cab was an almost flat floor version of the existing Saviem cab, being lifted by almost 300mm from the existing. Weight, under 7000kgs. Well we all know what happened, Europe was given the Berliet tractor range post merger, and eventually a semblance of build quality was obtained! As an aside, I received a fearful rollicking from my boss, following Truck Magazines 1977 Euro Test. Why? I had been sitting with my old friend the late Pat Kennet, just chatting away about the various contenders, V8 Scania, Berliet TR305, ■■■■■■■ Foden, Barreros, (and did`nt she surprise us all)! and MAN 280. Without thinking I said, “the winner will be the MAN” and qualified my statement with some" hypothetical "results, which of course were taken from our field trials of the PS30. The MAN was sensational, far better than Pat ever printed, and it won. I think in 1978 it was voted Truck of the Year. Pat, being Pat went digging to try to get a PS30 for test. It was easy for my superiors to track down the “non party line Berliet man”, so I was on the carpet in a big way.Hey, sorry if it has bored you, this thread does stimulate the old memories. Anybody have a shot of a PS30, the best tractor we never had!! Cheerio for now.

Hiya Saviem. I have written about my old motor before and still think it was a Saviem PX28

It was certainly supplied from Nickersons and was on contract hire to Burtons Tailoring in Leeds. 24 tonne Gross :blush:

Here is the complete history of the Berliet & Saviem

renaultoloog.nl/trucks-english.htm

jim1970:
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hello jim 1970, your photos are brilliant. cant make out if the cawthorns merc with the tilt on is english registered or not, they only had two english ones and my dad had one of them.

loving the Fseries & early 142/3’s they’re the trucks i wanted to drive when i was a young’un, lucky for me many were still about when i’d passed my test ! more please :slight_smile:

bubbleman:
,also nice info on the MVF DAF Moley…another one coming up today :smiley:


Another for Moley,seen in July earlier this year heading south on the M5 near Gordano services.

Cheers Bubbs, :wink:

i try me best :laughing:
from what i know .
VNO originally from PYE BIBBY, thus the red along the top of the body !
she was based out of Lifton, but now back up at bridgwater for the last two years or so now , usually dragging a 3 axle trailer around but also kitted out to carry a moffet, cant be far off turning a million kms i shouldn’t wonder, there’s talk of a few new scanias coming in the near future so i would thinks she’s one of the next on the list for replacement , or at least pushed back down the ranks,
I’ve only taken her across town for a quick delivery , so Pimmer73 may have a better idea of how she drives , as he’s regularly put on the bag fleet when they cant cope :laughing:

Wheel Nut:

Saviem:
Thomasons involvment with Saviem, then Renault sprang from an agreement with the first UK distributor, Nickersons. Primarily an oil distributor, based at Gt Ducie street Manchester, whose transport arm was located at Grange Lane North Scunthorpe. The first tractors imported were really to Nickersons tipper fleet spec, 192hp SM 32240. 12sp ZF single reduction with lock actuator braking. Really designed to compete with the F86, & Scania80. The engine was the inclined MAN naturally aspirated 2156. Imports commenced 1974. 1975 the newly formed RVI (the amalgamation of Saviem and Berliet) replaced Nickersons. The 32.240 was dropped, and replaced by the 36.280, 242hp Turbocharged unit. Quite a driveable, lightweight, tractor unit. Once heard never forgotten! The Deputy Managing Director being my old colleague from Surenses Daniel Laffly, later to import and sell Lamberet fridge trailers in the UK… And I think he sold a few to Thomasons. At that time we were in total chaos in France, for some reason best known to the UK importer, they were requesting an obsolete model spec. Saviems offering in Europe being the SM280TU, the equivelent of MANs 32.240, with the upright engine. A far more competitive vehicle for the UK market. In the wings was the sensational PS30, sadly never to be seen in the UK. This was a 4x2 38tonne, Turbocharged 280hp, with either the Saviem GV350 10sp synchromesh box, or the St Nazaire built 13sp Fuller. With the latter, performance was sensational! The cab was an almost flat floor version of the existing Saviem cab, being lifted by almost 300mm from the existing. Weight, under 7000kgs. Well we all know what happened, Europe was given the Berliet tractor range post merger, and eventually a semblance of build quality was obtained! As an aside, I received a fearful rollicking from my boss, following Truck Magazines 1977 Euro Test. Why? I had been sitting with my old friend the late Pat Kennet, just chatting away about the various contenders, V8 Scania, Berliet TR305, ■■■■■■■ Foden, Barreros, (and did`nt she surprise us all)! and MAN 280. Without thinking I said, “the winner will be the MAN” and qualified my statement with some" hypothetical "results, which of course were taken from our field trials of the PS30. The MAN was sensational, far better than Pat ever printed, and it won. I think in 1978 it was voted Truck of the Year. Pat, being Pat went digging to try to get a PS30 for test. It was easy for my superiors to track down the “non party line Berliet man”, so I was on the carpet in a big way.Hey, sorry if it has bored you, this thread does stimulate the old memories. Anybody have a shot of a PS30, the best tractor we never had!! Cheerio for now.

Hiya Saviem. I have written about my old motor before and still think it was a Saviem PX28

It was certainly supplied from Nickersons and was on contract hire to Burtons Tailoring in Leeds. 24 tonne Gross :blush:

Here is the complete history of the Berliet & Saviem

renaultoloog.nl/trucks-english.htm

morning saviem,your info is most welcome on this thread ,thanks gaz70.

I agree with GAZ70, really enjoyed reading that. I remember those Eurotests ( and Test Matches ) and always hoped to meet Pat but sadly never did.
Rgds MR.

Gaz70; Sorry mate, no idea when the Thomasons brochure was printed, or for that matter, where I got it from. I can tell you that I had to copy it and give it back straight away!

SAVIEM; You certainly know your stuff. It goes perfectly with the images/brochures/etc…What a mind of information you are! Keep it all coming…

GAZ70:

truckerash:
Anyone remember Thomason’s ? Mainstay of the fleet were Saviem’s. Quite rare to have a large fleet of them in those days. There were a couple of Scanias too.

I’ve found a mint company brochure while tidying me cupboards so here it is :slight_smile:
Front and back cover, when opened up it’s a lovely fleet line up.





truckerash any idea when the thomasons leaflet was printed :question:

i remember when my dad got a start at thomo’s going with him to clean the saviem unit he’d been given,it was a proper tip and thilthy inside and out mainly due to the fact it had been a spare unit :frowning: ,any way we found out it had no cutains so i was given the task of exracting the curtains from a dead berliet that sat in the grave yard at thomo’s,this done then fitting them,next it was steam clean time ,after about 3 hours graft the motor looked halve decent,i spent all my school holidays in that motor tramping all over the uk(they had stopped overseas work then),the place i remember most was the ecco cold store in tottenham,when we went through the gates there was around 10 other thomo’s waiting to load ,what a sight for a wagen mad 13 year old,happy days ,good memories,gaz :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

here you go last two ive got for now, one just for you bubbs roge

twin splitter:

jim1970:
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hello jim 1970, your photos are brilliant. cant make out if the cawthorns merc with the tilt on is english registered or not, they only had two english ones and my dad had one of them.

Glad you like them.i ll look out original pic and see if i can make out reg on the merc. :slight_smile:

jim1970:

twin splitter:

jim1970:
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hello jim 1970, your photos are brilliant. cant make out if the cawthorns merc with the tilt on is english registered or not, they only had two english ones and my dad had one of them.

Glad you like them.i ll look out original pic and see if i can make out reg on the merc. :slight_smile:

Hi Twin splitter,the merc has french plates,

jim1970:

twin splitter:

jim1970:
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hello jim 1970, your photos are brilliant. cant make out if the cawthorns merc with the tilt on is english registered or not, they only had two english ones and my dad had one of them.

Glad you like them.i ll look out original pic and see if i can make out reg on the merc. :slight_smile:

thanks jim. they bring back memories of school holidays going all over europe with my dad. he nearly always used the southampton le havre ferries and was always drinking with the duncan barbour drivers.

Hi lads,good pics and info coming in…heres more of my stuff to help it along.


Hills of Ripley ran a number of powder tanks along side their heavy haulage operation…this example seen in their yard.


Seen heading south on the M5,this 6x2 142 seems to be coping well with the heavy weight on its back,look how low the bed of the trailer is against the road. :open_mouth:


Western Tyres have had some nice trucks over the years,this F12 Globetrotter is a fine example.


Bedminsters ran several Roadtrains like this,all surviving untill quite late…one is still about I believe.


Seen on the M4 westbound is another haulier thats now relegated to the history books…Taylor Barnard,bought out by TNT.


Wartons EC ERF seen on the M4.

Cheers Bubbs, :wink:

,also nice info on the MVF DAF Moley…another one coming up today :smiley:


Another for Moley,seen in July earlier this year heading south on the M5 near Gordano services.

Cheers Bubbs, :wink:
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i try me best :laughing:
from what i know .
VNO originally from PYE BIBBY, thus the red along the top of the body !
she was based out of Lifton, but now back up at bridgwater for the last two years or so now , usually dragging a 3 axle trailer around but also kitted out to carry a moffet, cant be far off turning a million kms i shouldn’t wonder, there’s talk of a few new scanias coming in the near future so i would thinks she’s one of the next on the list for replacement , or at least pushed back down the ranks,
I’ve only taken her across town for a quick delivery , so Pimmer73 may have a better idea of how she drives , as he’s regularly put on the bag fleet when they cant cope :laughing:[/quote

yea mate drove her for a full day the other month well half the day she pulled well nice to drive until after lunch when a water pipe burst and spent the afternoon watching helicopters down at Round ups !!

Evening Gentlemen, firstly, Wales should have won, no, he should not have been sent off, sin bin yes, red card no, and lastly I hope the French get slaughtered next match. Right, have I made my alegiences known? Just a quick follow on, and thanks for the kind comments. Back in 1974 I was instructed to meet two Directors of our new British Importer, Nickerson, show them around the factory at Blainville, (an old shipyard,built between the River Orne and Canal, the main assembly hall actually built as two seperate halves leaving a gap of about 20mm in the roof centre! French architecture)! They were to stay at the Hotel Malherbe in Caen, (in WW11 the Gestapo headquarters). I arrived to take them for Dinner, but outside the Hotel was uproar, parked German tour buses surrounded with agitated German tourists. I paid little attention, and entered the hotel. Locating the rooms where my guests were staying I went up to the top floor, and knocked on the door of the suite. There was a delay, when it was opened not by an Englishman, but by Henri, an elderley waiter. He was laughing fit to burst, he gestured for me to enter. Inside, either side of the open window stood, Michael North-Cotes, (Service Director), and opposite, Arvian Llewellyn Jones (Sales Director). Between them were dishes heaped with nuts, which they were using as amunition to bombard the Germans below!! Later, over Dinner I was to learn that Arvian had landed at the Orne bridge, (Pegasus bridge), as a parachutist, and Michael had been heavily involved in the D Day landings. The following day lunch was to be taken in the works dining room, where everyone from management to production staff ate together. Mdme Retour, who ruled this excellent facility with a rod of iron, asked me who the guests were. I explained, and told her of their War record. The dining room was full, everyone enjoying their repast, when the Senior production manager rose, banged on the table, and called the assembly to attention, He then spoke, of the Heroes that were our guests, the gratitude that was owed, and raised a toast to the two men. Everyone rose to their feet and there was spontaneous applause. It is something that I will never forget, and I was very proud. Sorry its not directly lorry related, but it shows just how well regarded they were. Oh, lastly, staying at the Malherbe at the same time were two German MAN production engineers, and yes they were in the works dining room, and yes they applauded as well! Cheerio for now.

bubbleman:
Hi again,good stuff from Ade(Lurpak)…theres one from your firm at the end of todays pics :smiley:


And finally this 113 for Lurpak on the M4.

Cheers Bubbs, :wink:
Hi Bubbs
heres a couple of our firm foom 6 or7 years ago

cheers Ade