Nice pictures ,I hated being loaded for the docks at LP. I remember in the late 50s being there with 4 drops ,I ended up tking the last one to A.V.Crutchley, so I could get my return load, they used horse drawn rollies in those days, & allways went to the front of any queues as I experienced seeing the severall times, I quite often back loaded from the BRS, at Bootle but the loads were allways off the docks, still its nice to look back on the old days good or bad, Regards Larry
mrken:
Paul, you said earlier stuff. This is from my first T.K with the door number letters name. Just a few for tonight, I don’t wanna bore everyone.
You’ll never bore us with photos like those pure class
The Mandator the ol’ man bought from Davis’ (Charles Poulter)
Lawrence Dunbar:
Nice pictures ,I hated being loaded for the docks at LP. I remember in the late 50s being there with 4 drops ,I ended up tking the last one to A.V.Crutchley, so I could get my return load, they used horse drawn rollies in those days, & allways went to the front of any queues as I experienced seeing the severall times, I quite often back loaded from the BRS, at Bootle but the loads were allways off the docks, still its nice to look back on the old days good or bad, Regards Larry
I was told by one of Crutchleys hostlers, that the law did not allow horses to stand in queues. I’m sure someone will put us right as to if that was the case or not.
It’s a wonder my old boss (Fred Davies) didn’t have a team of them!!! 
Viking:
Lawrence Dunbar:
Nice pictures ,I hated being loaded for the docks at LP. I remember in the late 50s being there with 4 drops ,I ended up tking the last one to A.V.Crutchley, so I could get my return load, they used horse drawn rollies in those days, & allways went to the front of any queues as I experienced seeing the severall times, I quite often back loaded from the BRS, at Bootle but the loads were allways off the docks, still its nice to look back on the old days good or bad, Regards LarryI was told by one of Crutchleys hostlers, that the law did not allow horses to stand in queues. I’m sure someone will put us right as to if that was the case or not.
It’s a wonder my old boss (Fred Davies) didn’t have a team of them!!!
This was the case , that a horse drawn rollie got priority over modern day vehicles, old Crutchley must have made a lot of money out of it, The last time I was at Birkenhead I some his name still on the old sheds, Regards Larry
- The oldest worker on the docks.
I dont know if it’s the man or the horse.
Viking:
1948. The oldest worker on the docks.
I dont know if it’s the man or the horse.
Is that one of Jarvis Robinsons rollies ? I remember them running steam wagons in the 50s, Regards Larry
I would say that it was one of Jarvy Robbos.
mrken:
Paul, you said earlier stuff. This is from my first T.K with the door number letters name. Just a few for tonight, I don’t wanna bore everyone.
MORE GREAT STUFF
CHEERS FOR THAT
Yeah, i agree. These Elstran photos really are good. I remember them very well but just did,nt realise just how many different motors they had!!. Love the old Mercedes 1418 pic and also the unusual Volvo F10 day cab. Was there a make of truck you did,nt run Ken?. Thanks for sharing them.
CAN ANY ONE PUT ALL THE ELSYTRAN PHOTO ON IT OWN PAGE
KEEP THEM COMING KEN
CHEERS PAUL
Viking:
1948. The oldest worker on the docks.
I dont know if it’s the man or the horse.
Is that Harry Gill next to the horse ? 
Not to me , it, has a strong resemblence of Old Steptoe IE Wilfred Bramble. Regards Larry
Lawrence Dunbar:
Not to me , it, has a strong resemblence of Old Steptoe IE Wilfred Bramble. Regards Larry
He looks a bit like my grandad definiteley the same dress sense,he started at Henry Longs with a horse n cart
Never had a roadtrain had one on demo but didnt like the way you could see down the front panel at the wiper linkage
and never had any yanks but other than that i suppose yea tried most if hacther or cornet made a visor and i could put a bit of furniture on it and dress it up I bought it lol I sort some unusel ones out next sed-atkis and ec14s had some nice ones of those any way thanks
ramone:
Lawrence Dunbar:
Not to me , it, has a strong resemblence of Old Steptoe IE Wilfred Bramble. Regards LarryHe looks a bit like my grandad definiteley the same dress sense,he started at Henry Longs with a horse n cart
Would that have bee the one from Manningham ? Regards Larry
I was shown the picture of the carter with his steed (and JRT rollie) several years ago by someone who actually knew him.
Sadly, I’ve long-since forgotten the carter’s name, but I was told this was his regular attire at work and that he was in his eighties when he called it a day. I suspect this was actually a working shot - not posed for the camera.
As a bit of throw-away useless information, there’s one of these carts sat in the corner of a field at a riding school in Scarisbrick, Lancs. It’s from Liverpool, as there is a glimmer of the original signwriting which includes the word on one of the side raves.
Lawrence Dunbar:
ramone:
Lawrence Dunbar:
Not to me , it, has a strong resemblence of Old Steptoe IE Wilfred Bramble. Regards LarryHe looks a bit like my grandad definiteley the same dress sense,he started at Henry Longs with a horse n cart
Would that have bee the one from Manningham ? Regards Larry
Thats the 1 Lawrence they moved to Lidget Green in 1968
mrken:
Never had a roadtrain had one on demo but didnt like the way you could see down the front panel at the wiper linkage
and never had any yanks but other than that i suppose yea tried most if hacther or cornet made a visor and i could put a bit of furniture on it and dress it up I bought it lol I sort some unusel ones out next sed-atkis and ec14s had some nice ones of those any way thanks
Who had the day-cabbed F12 before you Ken? The only day-cabbed F12s I ever saw were at Pandoro but I think they were 6x2s. Bulmers (I think) had some day-cabbed F10s, and I think Phil Llewellyn did a Long Distance Diary in an issue of Truck magazine when he rode with their trunkers.
The Liverpool-registered F7 looks well with that tri-axle behind it - who had that one new?
I was thinking that myself…whats the history of the day cab Volvo?.
bubbleman:
Hello again,good stuff coming in lads,well done…Bowser,I must have put the Transcon on before as I remember the comment about the big tank behind the cab…apologies for repeating the pic lads.
Western Roadways Mercedes is seen westbound on the M4.
Whats going on in that cab . . looks like a driver change on the move?
