crap picture i know but they are the only ones i have …this is the first motor i drove after i passed my test , 380hp pre-intercooler .
ignore the name its not me , i’d taken it over that day and the previous drivers name was still on it … SAJ 2X in anyone knows anything about it …
steviev8:
and another! if any one has any info on the old girl it would be much appreciated we bought her in the livery of a s taylor of burton on trent but also know it was run by wm mark young of uttoxeter…the reg is b847 ynk
She’ s a beauty. You lucky sod I’d swap you 
[zb]
anorak:
As a logical (arguably!) extension to the original question of this thread, why did the other V8s of the 1960s-'80s not accrue the same affection that the Scania DS14 enjoyed?There were plenty of them developed during the 1960s/'70s, to meet the anticipated demand for power- Unic 15 litre, MAN D21 (Saviem), Berliet 13 and subsequent 15 litre, MAN D25/Mercedes OM402/3 (OK, the D25/OM403 was a V10, but it was aimed at the same market), Fiat 17 litre, ■■■■■■■ VT903, Magirus etc. Why are these not as fondly remembered?
Maybe it’s all about the combination of reliability and power outputs/turbocharging again.The FIAT V8 (or Merc V8 in turbocharged form not it’s gutless naturally aspirated version) weren’t exactly at the bottom of anyone’s wish list and probably both would have been at least as reliable as the Scania,nor would the turbocharged Detroit 8V71 or 8V92 or CAT 3408 have been at the bottom of anyone’s list either if they’d have been supplied and used in large quantities outside North America,at the time.But no one with any sense would have put a 903 in a wagon instead of either of those Detroit or CAT options in the American products comparison. 
Sorry to rain on your parade Geoffrey but I’ve been on a visit to Canada this week and done a trip with a member on here. Got chatting to a Canadian driver who was asking about the truck we was in as it was a glider kit. When I said it had a Detroit 60 series in it he said that’s the only decent engine they made and spoke of the green leaker with the distain you reserve for the growling Gardner.
Still I suppouse one mans meat is another mans gravy and all that.
hello carryfast,what do you put up against the SCANIA V 8 
,can,t wait, hej benkku
A rolls Royce merlin or a v16 Detroit probaly 
kr79:
Sorry to rain on your parade Geoffrey but I’ve been on a visit to Canada this week and done a trip with a member on here. Got chatting to a Canadian driver who was asking about the truck we was in as it was a glider kit. When I said it had a Detroit 60 series in it he said that’s the only decent engine they made and spoke of the green leaker with the distain you reserve for the growling Gardner.
Still I suppouse one mans meat is another mans gravy and all that.
Maybe the price of diesel now compared to the 1970’s might have something to do with it. 
But I’d bet that he wouldn’t want to bet that 60 series Detroit wagon against a turbocharged 12V71 powered KW and the loser also pays for all the diesel as well as losing the truck. 
bma.finland:
hello carryfast,what do you put up against the SCANIA V 8
KW Aerodyne with an 8V92 in 475 horsepower spec against it’s 1970’s Scania V8 counterpart.
Carryfast:
kr79:
Sorry to rain on your parade Geoffrey but I’ve been on a visit to Canada this week and done a trip with a member on here. Got chatting to a Canadian driver who was asking about the truck we was in as it was a glider kit. When I said it had a Detroit 60 series in it he said that’s the only decent engine they made and spoke of the green leaker with the distain you reserve for the growling Gardner.
Still I suppouse one mans meat is another mans gravy and all that.Maybe the price of diesel now compared to the 1970’s might have something to do with it.
But I’d bet that he wouldn’t want to bet that 60 series Detroit wagon against a turbocharged 12V71 powered KW and the loser also pays for all the diesel as well as losing the truck.
Bloke was a company driver so no worry to him about fuel. You been watching to much grease mate racing for pink slips.
Real interesting guy actualy wife was English and had traveled in Europe a lot and had read up on trucks here and knew his stuff.
Carryfast:
bma.finland:
hello carryfast,what do you put up against the SCANIA V 8KW Aerodyne with an 8V92 in 475 horsepower spec against it’s 1970’s Scania V8 counterpart.
So still a truck in a different league scania didn’t have a truck offering that power until about 1990.
Carryfast:
bma.finland:
hello carryfast,what do you put up against the SCANIA V 8KW Aerodyne with an 8V92 in 475 horsepower spec against it’s 1970’s Scania V8 counterpart.
well you can keep it and pass my on the motorway, then i,ll can take your load and bring it to the customer ,even on small roads whit the scannie,everywhere
after you can buy me a lager cheers benkku
kr79:
Carryfast:
bma.finland:
hello carryfast,what do you put up against the SCANIA V 8KW Aerodyne with an 8V92 in 475 horsepower spec against it’s 1970’s Scania V8 counterpart.
So still a truck in a different league scania didn’t have a truck offering that power until about 1990.
don,t mind it,s a two storke,a half engine whit american ponnies in it, on youtube you can se ,it,s screeming but hardley mooving(better ) loaded,cheers benkku
Carryfast:
bma.finland:
hello carryfast,what do you put up against the SCANIA V 8KW Aerodyne with an 8V92 in 475 horsepower spec against it’s 1970’s Scania V8 counterpart.
Apples to Oranges again 
When you compare things you really need to compare like for like
You are also under the illusion that everyone used to run big power in the US, not the case, they didn’t run many conventionals either until the length laws were relaxed, Smokey and the Bandit films are not the definitive guide to trucking in the USA 
There were big engined trucks around, but they were in the minority, just as you get people pulling boxes out of Felixstowe in 730hp Scanias and 750hp Volvos, you used to get the odd Yank with a big motor, most were bog standard fleet spec trucks with much less than 10hp per ton
Your own argument of the customer holding back development works against you when you cross the Atlantic, half of them would still be running Petrol engines over here if the Government would let them, because their Grandpa had one in the 30s
Even your beloved Detroits only managed to get a decent engine by default, a tractor manufacturer had made something that was too sophisticated for its own needs and handed it to them on a plate
Now you’re on about drawbars on KWs…WTF
untill the 80 /90 i have read that american fleet motors had mousty 250 /300 hp ,like more to bee like gardners then scannies, and the weight,s mostly we laugh here in north cheers benkku
Now you tell me Mark I best think again unless I can hit the gate at 98 and trash cop cars I ain’t interested.
[zb]
anorak:
As a logical (arguably!) extension to the original question of this thread, why did the other V8s of the 1960s-'80s not accrue the same affection that the Scania DS14 enjoyed?There were plenty of them developed during the 1960s/'70s, to meet the anticipated demand for power- Unic 15 litre, MAN D21 (Saviem), Berliet 13 and subsequent 15 litre, MAN D25/Mercedes OM402/3 (OK, the D25/OM403 was a V10, but it was aimed at the same market), Fiat 17 litre, ■■■■■■■ VT903, Magirus etc. Why are these not as fondly remembered?
un like carryfast i don,t think it was the turbo, i,ll think it was the bouth sweedes was the first lorrymakers in the world who wanted (or needed )to make motors where the driver was in first place owneroperator or driver,and scania beated volvo whit the V8,but when you read post,s on here almost every driver who have driven scannies or volvos from 60/70,s have rated them high for comfort and heating and space in cab.Ofcouse if you get the V8 it was extra bonus,cheers benkku
Carryfast:
bma.finland:
hello carryfast,what do you put up against the SCANIA V 8KW Aerodyne with an 8V92 in 475 horsepower spec against it’s 1970’s Scania V8 counterpart.
The 141 had a far more efficient engine (210g/kWh @ 1500rpm, IIRC). The spec sheets, numerous magazine roadtests and its popularity amongst profit-making hauliers across Europe support this. The only European operators of the other vehicle were cowboy-hatted dreamers, in their dreams.
ainacs:
Trev_H:
I remember working on one of Astrans 140’s. It had limped home from the middle east on 7 cylinders, it think it had a water hose fail,overheated and no.8 piston had picked up (furthest from the water pump), partially seizing.
Slacking each injector pipe in turn the driver discovered which cyl. took the knock away, he then had dropped the sump taken off the single cyl head and removed the offending piston. The big end oilways were taped with plastic to maintain oil pressure,the head re-fitted and no 8 injector was firing into a gallon can which had a pipe returning the diesel back to the tank, I was amazed by the guy’s resourcefulness and puzzled when he came into the garage and declared he needed a new piston fitting ! I asked why he thought he needed a new piston when he told me the tale and got the knackered one out of the cab !
Months later he came in with a rigid inside a tilt trailer, rolled in on its brake drums with a failed gearbox !
I was a big fan of the Scania V8’s and found them very simple to work on.I am so sorry but that is so unbelievable! I presume when you say plastic you are refering to insulation tape■■?
I have worked and broken many, many Scania engines and no way would ‘plastic’ be able to hold back oil pressure,especially at high temperature, however I have heard of drivers getting home on 5 cylinders by using say tin from a coke can around the journal secured with a jubilee clip!
The trouble with a V8 is that there are two conrods attached to the each jounal and if you remove one then that would allow the other too much movement?
I maybe wrong but I would not try it but would rather come home on 6!!!
Regards Pat
I can assure you it was true, I can’t be certain it was Astrans own motor or a contractor in their name and colours.
What the guy had used appeared to be a section of thick plastic pipe cut in half to make 2 shells, these had been bound with tape to bridge the gaps and held in place with clips, I can assure you it was true, I witnessed it being driven into our yard and stripped the motor down.
There was no damage to the crank journal or to the opposite con-rod and with a new piston and liner the motor was up and running in half a day, the V8 was such an easy motor to work on.
The coca-cola can codge I have heard of before but haven’t personally witnessed.
newmercman:
Carryfast:
bma.finland:
hello carryfast,what do you put up against the SCANIA V 8KW Aerodyne with an 8V92 in 475 horsepower spec against it’s 1970’s Scania V8 counterpart.
Apples to Oranges again
When you compare things you really need to compare like for like
You are also under the illusion that everyone used to run big power in the US, not the case, they didn’t run many conventionals either until the length laws were relaxed, Smokey and the Bandit films are not the definitive guide to trucking in the USA
There were big engined trucks around, but they were in the minority, just as you get people pulling boxes out of Felixstowe in 730hp Scanias and 750hp Volvos, you used to get the odd Yank with a big motor, most were bog standard fleet spec trucks with much less than 10hp per ton
Your own argument of the customer holding back development works against you when you cross the Atlantic, half of them would still be running Petrol engines over here if the Government would let them, because their Grandpa had one in the 30s
Even your beloved Detroits only managed to get a decent engine by default, a tractor manufacturer had made something that was too sophisticated for its own needs and handed it to them on a plate
Now you’re on about drawbars on KWs…WTF
Blimey nmm as I said before the only rules are that there are no rules.That is comparing like with like on the basis of V8’s and what was available during the 1970’s I also could have put a KW with a CAT 3408 into comparison the but two against one really would have been a bit unfair on Scania.
But if the Americans couldn’t sell them,because not enough people were buying them,you can bet those options would have been deleted and development wouldn’t have gone any further than the old Detroit inline 6 two stroke or the CAT 3406.But as we all know and for bma’s information in the real world the fleets,like everyone else over there,were calling for forced induction ■■■■■■■ engines and the V series 71 Detroits etc etc etc during the 1950’s and the rest is history and don’t remember anyone over there asking for the importation of Scanias or Scania motors because Scania could provide something with a better combination of reliability and power than what they had at home.
As for Detroit the fact is if it hadn’t have been for the fuel consumption issue and emmisions issue and had they just been a bit braver in going for the equivalent levels of electronic management and boost levels used by the four stroke opposition to date things just might look a bit different.But by the standards of the 1970’s,as I’ve said that KW with 3408 or Detroit 8V92 would have sorted out the Scania V8 no problem.But those issues of fuel costs and emissions are making all types of road going diesel engine development obsolete and I’d still bet on the idea of the relatively lower revving,relatively less stressed for equivalent output,spark ignition uniflow two stroke,running on alternative fuels idea,more than the big V8 four stroke diesel.So maybe grandpa might turn out right after all.
As for drawbars.Who else but a total closed minded artic beats everything else believer wouldn’t just put a box on the back of the blue and white cab over in the pics and then pull a drawbar trailer with it and why go backwards by not having the Aerodyne cab. 
to many if, carryfast, and as everywere as in gb ,usa, finnland,sweden ,don,t no about china and india ,fleets drives other then top of range .in scandinavia scania 420-480 is a fleet motor and meny owneroperators have them to 
,cheers benkku
