Scania V8s, the modern urban myth?

my english isn,t god enough to tell god stories whit fines just yet :astonished: .but about the V8 we oned, 141 was bought from rovaniemi up in norht,it was totaly crap,mening was to use som eqipment from it :unamused: however it ended up as the ultimate tool after atotal rebulding,including engine al at our yard,after first half a year when al small and big falures was sorted out we used it dayly 8years whit no big trouble. the first 142 we had ,a -83 420 1ntercooler was fixed up when we bought it 91, after 14 years back the wheel of that (this to is back of our yard)the work changed and since 2004 have been driving 144 460 1.596660km -97 still confortable and reliable,the other two V8 in house now is the 143 400 -89 bought -99 so whit us 13 years and a144 460 -97 bought -2005 (then we did a misstake and bought a R420 :astonished: :astonished: )only to thimes we have had enging rebuilds on this motors,and that was for a cheep barrel of “motoroil” never more save in that tought, so not a engine brokedown since 1994 :astonished: :smiley: :smiley: .we live in county behind to ferry,s so it,s god you can fix as much as possible by your selves so that one reason to keep the old girls earning.cheers benkku

did have two more 142 even

I remember working on one of Astrans 140’s. It had limped home from the middle east on 7 cylinders, it think it had a water hose fail,overheated and no.8 piston had picked up (furthest from the water pump), partially seizing.
Slacking each injector pipe in turn the driver discovered which cyl. took the knock away, he then had dropped the sump taken off the single cyl head and removed the offending piston. The big end oilways were taped with plastic to maintain oil pressure,the head re-fitted and no 8 injector was firing into a gallon can which had a pipe returning the diesel back to the tank, I was amazed by the guy’s resourcefulness and puzzled when he came into the garage and declared he needed a new piston fitting ! I asked why he thought he needed a new piston when he told me the tale and got the knackered one out of the cab !
Months later he came in with a rigid inside a tilt trailer, rolled in on its brake drums with a failed gearbox !
I was a big fan of the Scania V8’s and found them very simple to work on.

Trev_H:
I remember working on one of Astrans 140’s. It had limped home from the middle east on 7 cylinders, it think it had a water hose fail,overheated and no.8 piston had picked up (furthest from the water pump), partially seizing.
Slacking each injector pipe in turn the driver discovered which cyl. took the knock away, he then had dropped the sump taken off the single cyl head and removed the offending piston. The big end oilways were taped with plastic to maintain oil pressure,the head re-fitted and no 8 injector was firing into a gallon can which had a pipe returning the diesel back to the tank, I was amazed by the guy’s resourcefulness and puzzled when he came into the garage and declared he needed a new piston fitting ! I asked why he thought he needed a new piston when he told me the tale and got the knackered one out of the cab !
Months later he came in with a rigid inside a tilt trailer, rolled in on its brake drums with a failed gearbox !
I was a big fan of the Scania V8’s and found them very simple to work on.

Temperature gauge u/s, was it? Very resourceful bloke…

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Trev_H:
I remember working on one of Astrans 140’s. It had limped home from the middle east on 7 cylinders, it think it had a water hose fail,overheated and no.8 piston had picked up (furthest from the water pump), partially seizing.
Slacking each injector pipe in turn the driver discovered which cyl. took the knock away, he then had dropped the sump taken off the single cyl head and removed the offending piston. The big end oilways were taped with plastic to maintain oil pressure,the head re-fitted and no 8 injector was firing into a gallon can which had a pipe returning the diesel back to the tank, I was amazed by the guy’s resourcefulness and puzzled when he came into the garage and declared he needed a new piston fitting ! I asked why he thought he needed a new piston when he told me the tale and got the knackered one out of the cab !
Months later he came in with a rigid inside a tilt trailer, rolled in on its brake drums with a failed gearbox !
I was a big fan of the Scania V8’s and found them very simple to work on.

Temperature gauge u/s, was it? Very resourceful bloke…

If you have ever had a bottom hose fail you will lose the water and overheat the engine quickly, the temp gauge can only react quickly with water in the system, hence later vehicles were fitted with a low water level warning.

Trev_H:
If you have ever had a bottom hose fail you will lose the water and overheat the engine quickly, the temp gauge can only react quickly with water in the system, hence later vehicles were fitted with a low water level warning.

Point taken. The gauge will under-read if the gallery is full of air.

As a footnote, I once travelled in a minibus full of blokes, on their way to an inter-factory darts/pool/football match. Soon after we set off, the driver remarked on the temperature gauge’s needle being in the red. After some discussion, the reading returned to normal, so we assumed(!) that the gauge was at fault. After about twenty miles, we noticed an increasing volume of blue smoke issuing from the vehicle. This got to the stage when, if he lifted off the throttle, the whole surroundings would be completely shrouded in a blue-grey haze. This was put to amusing use when driving alongside an open-top MG in a one-way system. If I reveal that the factories were in suburbs of Birmingham and Oxford, you may be able to guess their identity, and the professions of the men in the bus.

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more then word,s can say :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: ,hej benkku

its the business !!!

vroom vrooom :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

campaign.scania.com/v8/

Evening all, …ok I am convinced,… bma I m going to learn Finish!!!My pals wife is Norwegian, but she tells me she can teach me Finish!!! I am starting to understand the enthusiasm!! Cheerio for now.

when we had the 3 day week back in the 70s I was working in a large timber yard and joiners shop in harringey we had 2 v8 scania engines as generaters and we worked 5 days throughout that dispute , fredm

mother of the legendary V8 one of the prototypes

The 14 litre even looks good. The rocker covers in the shape of a “V”, tubular 4-2-1 exhaust manifolds. Other commercial V8s’ manifolds are just a lump of cast iron with five holes in it (Someone is bound to correct me on this!).

look,s good, sound,s good and goes good,cheers benkku

bma.finland:
look,s good, sound,s good and goes good,cheers benkku

theres nothing more that you can add to that :smiley:

Trev_H:
I remember working on one of Astrans 140’s. It had limped home from the middle east on 7 cylinders, it think it had a water hose fail,overheated and no.8 piston had picked up (furthest from the water pump), partially seizing.
Slacking each injector pipe in turn the driver discovered which cyl. took the knock away, he then had dropped the sump taken off the single cyl head and removed the offending piston. The big end oilways were taped with plastic to maintain oil pressure,the head re-fitted and no 8 injector was firing into a gallon can which had a pipe returning the diesel back to the tank, I was amazed by the guy’s resourcefulness and puzzled when he came into the garage and declared he needed a new piston fitting ! I asked why he thought he needed a new piston when he told me the tale and got the knackered one out of the cab !
Months later he came in with a rigid inside a tilt trailer, rolled in on its brake drums with a failed gearbox !
I was a big fan of the Scania V8’s and found them very simple to work on.

I am so sorry but that is so unbelievable! I presume when you say plastic you are refering to insulation tape■■?

I have worked and broken many, many Scania engines and no way would ‘plastic’ be able to hold back oil pressure,especially at high temperature, however I have heard of drivers getting home on 5 cylinders by using say tin from a coke can around the journal secured with a jubilee clip!

The trouble with a V8 is that there are two conrods attached to the each jounal and if you remove one then that would allow the other too much movement?

I maybe wrong but I would not try it but would rather come home on 6!!!

Regards Pat

Here is a pic

and another! if any one has any info on the old girl it would be much appreciated we bought her in the livery of a s taylor of burton on trent but also know it was run by wm mark young of uttoxeter…the reg is b847 ynk

As a logical (arguably!) extension to the original question of this thread, why did the other V8s of the 1960s-'80s not accrue the same affection that the Scania DS14 enjoyed?

There were plenty of them developed during the 1960s/'70s, to meet the anticipated demand for power- Unic 15 litre, MAN D21 (Saviem), Berliet 13 and subsequent 15 litre, MAN D25/Mercedes OM402/3 (OK, the D25/OM403 was a V10, but it was aimed at the same market), Fiat 17 litre, ■■■■■■■ VT903, Magirus etc. Why are these not as fondly remembered?