Heres some more pics from Terrys face book thread facebook.com/?ref=home#!/gro…856&ref=ts
That is Sheffield depot taken in the late 70s as I left 75 and they were still in the navy blue then and that Atki had a 240 smoke making boiler in it, when we were on a ferry together I always tried to be as far away as I could from it and windows shut before Sam started it up as you were unable to see or breathe when it fired up. 
A humble Crusader with a more celubrious stablemate.Dun Laoghaire 1980`s.
By whiplash_012 at 2010-09-21
Like the tilt covers “arrangement”.Hope he wasn`t going to Switzerland with the load!Or through Conway Castle!
By whiplash_012 at 2010-09-21
whiplash:
A humble Crusader with a more celubrious stablemate.Dun Laoghaire 1980`s.
By whiplash_012 at 2010-09-21
I would never use the word humble to describe a Crusader a bit rough and ready yes but never humble you could possibly as rough as a bears arse
cheers Johnnie
No Johnny,in retrospect,have to agree with you.A fine lorry.
sammyopisite:
whiplash:
A humble Crusader with a more celubrious stablemate.Dun Laoghaire 1980`s.
By whiplash_012 at 2010-09-21I would never use the word humble to describe a Crusader a bit rough and ready yes but never humble
cheers Johnnie
We won’t ask how you became familiar with the texture of a bear’s arse Johnnie!!!
stevecook:
sammyopisite:
whiplash:
A humble Crusader with a more celubrious stablemate.Dun Laoghaire 1980`s.
By whiplash_012 at 2010-09-21I would never use the word humble to describe a Crusader a bit rough and ready yes but never humble
cheers Johnnie
We won’t ask how you became familiar with the texture of a bear’s arse Johnnie!!!
If I went into detail I would be kicked off of here 
sammyopisite:
That is Sheffield depot taken in the late 70s as I left 75 and they were still in the navy blue then and that Atki had a 240 smoke making boiler in it, when we were on a ferry together I always tried to be as far away as I could from it and windows shut before Sam started it up as you were unable to see or breathe when it fired up.
Is this the same Scammell or was there more than one “Samson” eight legger■■?
ainacs:
sammyopisite:
That is Sheffield depot taken in the late 70s as I left 75 and they were still in the navy blue then and that Atki had a 240 smoke making boiler in it, when we were on a ferry together I always tried to be as far away as I could from it and windows shut before Sam started it up as you were unable to see or breathe when it fired up.
Is this the same Scammell or was there more than one “Samson” eight legger■■?
Hi Pat, it is the same vehicle as there was only the one made, they did make around half a dozen more for New Zealand later as I can recall some people coming over to take a look at it in service as they wanted it for sheep and cattle road trains. I think it only came about because we were having a 100 ton Atkinson tractor which was made and on show in Pickfords colours but never came into service and the rumours at the time was that Scammell had put a block on it by saying they would not supply any more Contractors if Pickfords bought the Atkinson 100 ton tractor and then the Samson came on the scene pretty quickly and it was delivered late and then had to go back for a higher speed diff and extra fuel tank across the chassis as when it first came it had two 35 gallon tanks the same as the trunker but with the Detroit Diesel V8 in you could barely do a days work with out refuelling so they fitted the extra 50 gallon tank across the cat walk. When it came back we had so much work for it that it was double shifted for the next 12 to 18 months and the trailer was ahead of its time as the deck could be highered to the same hight as the platform over the rear bogie making a very good semi low loader (manually of coarse ) and the rear bogie could be steered as well making it a very good tool for the job at the time and even after the higher speed diff was fitted you did not need to use the low reduction range at 90 tons gross and it had a top speed of around 52-54 mph for empty running which was faster than some general haulage wagons at the time.
cheers Johnnie
PS another member on here heard the same rumours around Preston as well about Scammell blocking the Atki sale
sammyopisite:
ainacs:
sammyopisite:
That is Sheffield depot taken in the late 70s as I left 75 and they were still in the navy blue then and that Atki had a 240 smoke making boiler in it, when we were on a ferry together I always tried to be as far away as I could from it and windows shut before Sam started it up as you were unable to see or breathe when it fired up.
Is this the same Scammell or was there more than one “Samson” eight legger■■?
Hi Pat, it is the same vehicle as there was only the one made, they did make around half a dozen more for New Zealand later as I can recall some people coming over to take a look at it in service as they wanted it for sheep and cattle road trains. I think it only came about because we were having a 100 ton Atkinson tractor which was made and on show in Pickfords colours but never came into service and the rumours at the time was that Scammell had put a block on it by saying they would not supply any more Contractors if Pickfords bought the Atkinson 100 ton tractor and then the Samson came on the scene pretty quickly and it was delivered late and then had to go back for a higher speed diff and extra fuel tank across the chassis as when it first came it had two 35 gallon tanks the same as the trunker but with the Detroit Diesel V8 in you could barely do a days work with out refuelling so they fitted the extra 50 gallon tank across the cat walk. When it came back we had so much work for it that it was double shifted for the next 12 to 18 months and the trailer was ahead of its time as the deck could be highered to the same hight as the platform over the rear bogie making a very good semi low loader (manually of coarse ) and the rear bogie could be steered as well making it a very good tool for the job at the time and even after the higher speed diff was fitted you did not need to use the low reduction range at 90 tons gross and it had a top speed of around 52-54 mph for empty running which was faster than some general haulage wagons at the time.
cheers JohnniePS another member on here heard the same rumours around Preston as well about Scammell blocking the Atki sale
hiya,
Johnnie, did you ever drive this old girl, i would have loved to have had a go in it, have passed it on one or two occasions it looked the business only ever got a go in the two axle Crusader but after a 180 Gardner engined ERF that was something else.
thanks harry long retired.
Hi Harry I was driving it more than my own Atki for the first 12 to 18 months as it so busy and it was a very good tool at the time and so easy and refined compared to the Highwayen ha ha but with it having a D/D 2 stroke and a fuller range change box you could change up going up hills which was unheard of on heavy haulage then. I can remember the first time I drove it I was with Eric whose wagon it was and I asked him about the gear box and changing gear and he said you have have to change gear as fast as you can as the engine revs died so quickly and it was as manoeuvrable as the Atki which was only a 6x4. You will recall that on heavy haulage you could do 11 hours instead of 10 and 66 hour week but with 2 drivers you could do 14 hours driving so we earnt a very good wage as well at the time.
cheers Johnnie
Sorry double post
Another well known crusader,should have its place on here 
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MOC:
FFS whats the story here?
“No, No, take it off down the ramp at the back”
fly sheet:
MOC:
How the ■■■■ did that work then ?