Just wondered if the taxpayer is funding the rescue of the silly billionaires in the titanic sub? Surely if you are paying 250,000 to go there they could have put a few quid towards a rescue vessel?
I wonder if they have accountants making sure they pay hardly any tax and then want the taxpayer to save their sorry behinds.
Edit: Yep, the taxpayer is paying the cost of saving em. Sent 3 military planes and god knows what else:
The ongoing search and rescue effort for the missing Titan submersible with five people on board, involving a huge response from American, Canadian and French authorities, is vast in scale, including both the U.S. Navy and the Coast Guard.
The expense for such an endeavor is likely to be equally great, and it is unclear whether taxpayers in the countries involved, ultimately, will be required to pay it. The passengers aboard the submersible paid $250,000 each for the experience of diving to the Titanic.
“These people paid a lot of money to do something extraordinarily risky and hard to recover from,” said Chris Boyer, the executive director of the National Association for Search and Rescue, a nonprofit that focuses on wilderness rescues. The rescue mission, he said, would “probably cost millions.”
JeffA:
Just wondered if the taxpayer is funding the rescue of the silly billionaires in the titanic sub? Surely if you are paying 250,000 to go there they could have put a few quid towards a rescue vessel?
I wonder if they have accountants making sure they pay hardly any tax and then want the taxpayer to save their sorry behinds.
Edit: Yep, the taxpayer is paying the cost of saving em. Sent 3 military planes and god knows what else.
Rather crass considering the chances are they are possibly dead by now. Taxes are used the same for everyone regardless of their wealth. Whether you are rich or poor does not come into it when something bad happens.
Having money and choosing to do something that average people can’t afford to do it irrelevant.
Of course being rich comes into it - they paid 250,000 for a jolly knowing the taxpayer would pay for the rescue. Sorry my sympathy is about as low as it gets. I dont like to see anyone die but the cost of the rescue effort means other people will die because countless millions were spent on these 5 idiots.
If they pay for the rescue themselves then fair enough. I hear no end of sun readers saying they hate their tax money being used for doleys or health care for smokers - how is that in any worse taste than savimg billionaires on a jolly?
JeffA:
Of course being rich comes into it - they paid 250,000 for a jolly knowing the taxpayer would pay for the rescue. Sorry my sympathy is about as low as it gets. I dont like to see anyone die but the cost of the rescue effort means other people will die because countless millions were spent on these 5 idiots.
If they pay for the rescue themselves then fair enough. I hear no end of sun readers saying they hate their tax money being used for doleys or health care for smokers - how is that in any worse taste than savimg billionaires on a jolly?
Sun readers are the definition of bad taste. As are you with this post. Stop getting so wound up by what other countries spend their money on
JeffA:
Just wondered if the taxpayer is funding the rescue of the silly billionaires in the titanic sub? Surely if you are paying 250,000 to go there they could have put a few quid towards a rescue vessel?
I wonder if they have accountants making sure they pay hardly any tax and then want the taxpayer to save their sorry behinds.
Edit: Yep, the taxpayer is paying the cost of saving em. Sent 3 military planes and god knows what else:
The ongoing search and rescue effort for the missing Titan submersible with five people on board, involving a huge response from American, Canadian and French authorities, is vast in scale, including both the U.S. Navy and the Coast Guard.
The expense for such an endeavor is likely to be equally great, and it is unclear whether taxpayers in the countries involved, ultimately, will be required to pay it. The passengers aboard the submersible paid $250,000 each for the experience of diving to the Titanic.
“These people paid a lot of money to do something extraordinarily risky and hard to recover from,” said Chris Boyer, the executive director of the National Association for Search and Rescue, a nonprofit that focuses on wilderness rescues. The rescue mission, he said, would “probably cost millions.”
What a pathetic post and individual you are.
As you’ve made clear on here across numerous posts you despise capitalism and wealth, fine that’s your choice but you automatically lump everyone in the same boat simply because they have money.
Do you actually know the first thing about these people? Do you actually know their tax affairs? maybe they donate millions to charity, maybe they do pay their far share of tax, maybe they are good people. Irrelevant of whether any of that is true or not they are still innocent human beings, someone’s child, someone’s Dad, someone’s brother. Ironic that you take the moral high ground with your assumptions but then imply you don’t care if they die. Who is the bad one here?
JeffA.
You sound a bit judgemental and you have a point but who would swap places with them now,less than 24 hours oxygen,and its not going to be a comfortable death if they arent saved,so I dont begrudge them the millions of pounds if that gives them a chance.
But you could end up a billionaire one day,you could win the euromillions,you could have some distant relative leave you a fortune.
Then you will have people advising you how to pay less tax and get even richer.
I wonder how much tax you would pay over the minimum required…
JeffA:
Of course being rich comes into it - they paid 250,000 for a jolly knowing the taxpayer would pay for the rescue. Sorry my sympathy is about as low as it gets. I dont like to see anyone die but the cost of the rescue effort means other people will die because countless millions were spent on these 5 idiots.
If they pay for the rescue themselves then fair enough. I hear no end of sun readers saying they hate their tax money being used for doleys or health care for smokers - how is that in any worse taste than savimg billionaires on a jolly?
No one goes on a jolly knowing that they would need rescuing. Lots of people do dangerous stuff that can end up costing tens of or hundreds of thousands when things go wrong. How much do you think it costs if you’re involved in a bad RTC while driving. The cost can escalate into millions even, in rescue services and road closures etc, but you don’t say I won’t drive just in case. They chose to do something they could afford to do that probably has been done plenty of times before without incident. This time it has gone badly wrong.
Quoting the post/er you are referring to may give the person you are talking about a clue it’s meant to them. No idea whether you are referring to the OP or me there tbh.
Quoting the post/er you are referring to may give the person you are talking about a clue it’s meant to them. No idea whether you are referring to the OP or me there tbh.
JeffA:
Just wondered if the taxpayer is funding the rescue of the silly billionaires in the titanic sub? Surely if you are paying 250,000 to go there they could have put a few quid towards a rescue vessel?
I wonder if they have accountants making sure they pay hardly any tax and then want the taxpayer to save their sorry behinds.
Edit: Yep, the taxpayer is paying the cost of saving em. Sent 3 military planes and god knows what else:
The ongoing search and rescue effort for the missing Titan submersible with five people on board, involving a huge response from American, Canadian and French authorities, is vast in scale, including both the U.S. Navy and the Coast Guard.
The expense for such an endeavor is likely to be equally great, and it is unclear whether taxpayers in the countries involved, ultimately, will be required to pay it. The passengers aboard the submersible paid $250,000 each for the experience of diving to the Titanic.
“These people paid a lot of money to do something extraordinarily risky and hard to recover from,” said Chris Boyer, the executive director of the National Association for Search and Rescue, a nonprofit that focuses on wilderness rescues. The rescue mission, he said, would “probably cost millions.”
What a pathetic post and individual you are.
As you’ve made clear on here across numerous posts you despise capitalism and wealth, fine that’s your choice but you automatically lump everyone in the same boat simply because they have money.
Do you actually know the first thing about these people? Do you actually know their tax affairs? maybe they donate millions to charity, maybe they do pay their far share of tax, maybe they are good people. Irrelevant of whether any of that is true or not they are still innocent human beings, someone’s child, someone’s Dad, someone’s brother. Ironic that you take the moral high ground with your assumptions but then imply you don’t care if they die. Who is the bad one here?
Do you think the same about migrants in boats who need rescuing?
I can just imagine if the people smugglers get hold of a little sub to send people over and it sinks in the channel. I have absolutely no doubt you and your tory pals would be shouting "It will cost 10 million to save them? Scramble the military and half the coastguard immediately! “maybe they are good people”
I just can’t figure it - just one of these blokes was worth 2 billion and yet they’re too tight to pay for an effective rescue boat.
Dunno about this particular case, but saving human live does have costs.
Everyday people die in the UK because the NHS won`t fund their treatment.
In an ideal world everyone would get the best that money can buy, but the world is not ideal.
I think it was Sarah Palin on the campaign trail a few years back talking about a young girl who needed expensive cancer treatment, not covered by her health insurance.
“A million, a billion, a trillion, we should pay whatever it costs!”
Popular thought, but really? One life vs the cost of 2,000 hospitals?
I hope these guys are found safe.
But I`ll bet some of you wanting to send expensive ships and aircraft to their aid are moaning about a penny or two on the tax bill to fund ambulances, cancer drugs, new hospitals, dietary advice, etc.
Why fund the dramatic efforts to save with 5 lives but ignore the mundane workaday efforts that are underfunded and allow thousands to wither away quietly and die here earlier than they should.
They’d even signed a waiver accepting they would get no compo from oceangate if they all died - I just wish the waiver had also said “The taxpayer is exempt from any and all costs of rescuing us - that comes out of our estates”
Looks like the billionaires won’t pay a penny for their rescue - which will cost “many millions”.
Regardless, it all needs paying from the taxpayer. Oceangate and the billionaires are paying nothing. So the taxpayer is picking up the bill for a billionaires jolly. If this kind of money was being spent on saving 5 migrants there would be an outcry from the tory press at how much it was costing.
And I can only imagine what the tories on the board would be saying about it - “5 syrian migrants on a jolly in a rubbish submarine? And you expect us to pay to save them?”
The sub sounds like a right Heath Robinson contraption - controlled by a playstation controller, window was only tested to about 4000 feet and they were dropping to 12,5000 feet. And charging 250 grand for the privilege of riding in it. The only ironic thing is the guy taking their money is stuck in the sub with them - I bet he’s had a few volleys fired at him from the others.
Sploom:
The other thing,if the military are helping,they have ongoing costs anyway no matter what they are doing in that time
Not to mention being amazing training
In what sense? How often will they be called on to help a 5 man sub held together with stickyback plastic on the titanic wreck? I cant see there being a rush to sign up on for the next expedition.
Trumpy jnr says its (another) conspiracy:
"Literally everything I’ve seen about this missing submarine is insane and sketchy AF… almost none of it makes any sense whatsoever. How long till we find other external factors making it even more so■■?
— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) June 21, 2023
man you talk some ■■■■
