Sales brochures

windrush:
We had an A Series dropside at the quarry when I worked for Tilcon, it was used as a stores truck and travelled around the various quarries and plant’s distributing parts etc from our Central Stores. It had the four cylinder York engine, took forever to start and was flat out at around the 48 mph mark. I remember a trip down the M6/M5 in it, painful is an apt description! :open_mouth:

Pete.

Oh, the memories! Mine was exactly the same, not helped by the fact that it’s previous driver used to feed it Easy-Start to get it going, even
during the summer. The tilt body created a lot of drag, and with a full-cube load, rolled terribly.
We also had one with a Luton body, which was even worse, although I seem to recall getting it up to over 50mph downhill.

Between 1987 and 1992, the mainstay of AWD was a revamped version of the defunct BEDFORD TL.



AWD also produced some very interesting specialist trucks for the construction industry, probably due to owner David J Browns long standing association with off road and all wheel drive vehicles.

Thanks Richard. Found this front cover to add to the AWD MULTIDRIVE example.

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It’s a shame those TM - based heavy duty tippers never really caught on, as they seemed a good, robust vehicle. Here’s another one for the Military.

We had an AWD/TM six wheeled dumper at Ballidon quarry, never had anything to do with it personally but it was there for several years so couldn’t have been too bad a truck.

Pete.

Whilst browsing, I came across these from MIESSE. Have to be honest, and say that i’d never heard of them.
Can anyone enlighten us (cue Saviem methinks).

Miesse, or Auto Miesse, which they were also known as, were long standing manufacturers of trucks and buses from Belgium. Their origins go back to the 19th Century and they soldiered on until the very early 1970’s. Much of their production was Gardner - powered as the brochures show, but Mercedes engines were offered as an alternative.

Couple here from PEGASO. Personally, I always loved the look of the CABEZON model, but I’ve nothing in my collection,
and I’ve never un-earthed anything.

gb1:
Couple here from PEGASO. Personally, I always loved the look of the CABEZON model, but I’ve nothing in my collection,
and I’ve never un-earthed anything.

There may be some brochure pages here:
camionesclasicos.com/FORO/viewforum.php?f=17

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Bit of a novelty today. The Iveco ‘Cowboy’.

Here’s one from Hungarian manufacturer CSEPEL.

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gb1:
Couple here from PEGASO. Personally, I always loved the look of the CABEZON model, but I’ve nothing in my collection,
and I’ve never un-earthed anything.

I’ve just found this. There are some photos that look like early publicity shots for the Cabezon, and they are stunning. The bodywork follows the styling of the cab- there is even a tractor unit with a matching semi-trailer!
forocoches.com/foro/showthread.php?t=975515

Evening all, gb1, really great find!

Miesse,( if my little grey cells are working correctly) , started out in the 1900s. Steam powered cars, and vans, then about 1910 introduced an 8cyl V configuration engine. By the late 20s they had their own ohc designed engines mainly powering bus chassis.

In the early 30s they had a licence to build Hercules petrol engines,1935, signed a collaboration with TATRA,then in 1936 with Gardner. Early Gardners were to power diesel railcars, (Miesse is a really interesting company). 1938 Mack signed a collaborative agreement…then came WW2!

Post 1950 the Marshall plan was in force, Edmund Miesse passed away 1955, and his young son Jules took over, assisted by his grand daughters Yvonne, and Renee. I think at that time the Managing Director was Paul de Bruyne.

Vehicles produced were powered by Gardner, both 6cyl, and 8 cyl LW designs, and like the contemporary AECs, had Timkin axles, but ZF gearboxes.

Miesse also manufactured cars, having taken over the old American Nash plant in Bruxells. They also "flirted " with Germanys Maico.

Trucks, as gb1s illustration had cabs by, (mainly),Stolen,but powered by Gardner, Detroit, (V6s), Bussing, and Mack…more power than a Gardner! The units similar in appearance to gb1s illustration, (like those of Antoine Loheac), were based on US m 426 chassis frames. Then of course were the Brossel/Miesse/FNs for the Belgian army powered by Peterborough`s finest 6 cylinders.

Tpts Delrosorio, of Vanneste I remember running a Mack powered example,and Tpts Trois Fontaine ran an example powered by General Motors.

The Belgian lorry industry is a fascinating place, one in which I can easily loose myself! …But it is a big day tomorrow, so I will drain the Bollinger, and away to my bed…

Cheerio for now.

Saviem’s musings on the Belgian lorry industry has inspired me to have a quick root through my collection to post a few brochures up.

This undated Miesse brochure is circa 1930 I think. As can be seen by the images, their range at this point consisted of both goods and passenger chassis in two and three axle configuration. The 8 cylinder engine referenced on the cover was a monobloc unit of 101 HP.

This publication (again undated, unfortunately) is from their “Gardner Period”. Miesse had apparently standardised on Gardner engines by 1934, and the brochure describes 4x2 chassis in the 5.5 to 7.5 gross vehicle weight range powered by 4,5 or 6 cylinder Gardners peaking with an 8 litre unit of 105 HP.

This brochure features one of Miesse’s last production vehicles. The 19TGG was a Gardner 6LX (150) powered tractor with a ZF 6 speed 'box and Rockwell Timken rear axle. The leaflet dates from 1967 and at this point production of trucks was down to about 20 chassis a year, with 50 bus chassis also being produced.

I think this brochure show’s Miesse’s last truck design; the T19GM was a Detroit Diesel powered tractor “inspired by the current trends in the USA”. The engine choices spanned the 6V53N to the 8V71N rated at 322 HP. A version of this truck was shown at the 1968 Brussels Show, but by 1972 production of new trucks had ceased.

This FN brochure dates from the early post - war years. The tidy 5 tonner had an FN 6 cylinder petrol engine

FN ceased vehicle production in 1965 and one of their last designs was the 4RM “Ardennes” Military 4x4. These vehicles were powered by FN’s 130 HP 4.75 litre petrol engine. These scans show the cover of the catalogue and an illustration from inside.

Brossel built a range of Leyland - engined trucks before being incorporated into the BLMC group. This brochure shows their forward and normal control chassis powered by the Leyland .600.

The last new Brossel model was the “Europ” launched in 1961. It was powered by either a Leyland .400 or .600 engine and was equipped with a fibre glass re - styled LAD cab on a steel frame.

One for Saviem here…

Hello all, gb1, what a wonderful sight, “The Heart and Lungs of the complete Athlete”! my beloved Bernard.

But by the time that advertisement was posted Bernard was really past its sell by date, superb engineering, but they had missed the industry move in France to 200hp plus. Sadly, the superbly reliable, but old tech Gardner licence diesels were being left behind.

On the left is one of the handsome Pelpel cab, bonneted, TD150.35s. perhaps the last “real” Bernard. Powered by the MB6 130x152 12105 cc 165hp @1750rpm , (in reality a Gardner 150), with a 5, or 10 speed twin stick, (termed knitters, by drivers…easier to use than the cag handed Berliet “Tricateuse” twin stick set up, so hated by my old clients ONATRA.

But on the right the new “Television” cab designed by perhaps France`s greatest vehicle stylist Phillipe Charbonneaux. Deliberatly styled to look like a Teleavia Television from the front…the screen, the speakers, (radiator grill). and the knobs to control…the four headlights. The round portholes were a later pre production mod, as the original rectangular sleeper windows weakened the structure too much!

The cab sat over the Gardner 180, 180.35 at 185hp. Plus the 5, 0r 10 speed transmission. The cab interior was sensational, (as were all Charbonneaux`s designs, for had he not created the sensational French Air Force recruitment vehicle back in 52, that was still in operation in the 70s, (despite being built on a Chausson, “pig nose” bus chassis, let alone his later creation for the military, and his Bic Biro vehicles, Hoover promotional cars, and not forgetting his input into Berliets “Relax” cab of 58)!

The Television cabs were fabricated by G Pelpel, of Noyal sur Villaine, Near Rennes, (a coachbuilder, and trailer manufacturer of whom I should write more), and the more exotic creations of his mind by Rouens Phillipe Lebastard, whose bodywork creations really even today are sensational.

Bernard also fitted aerodynamic cabs by Arnault, many were supplied to that premier French fleet G Borca et Fils, of Asneres. My late friend Martin Phippard experienced their hospitality , when Mack became involved with Bernard in the 60s, Champagne, from gold rimmed glasses…while I experienced their kindness, repairing a young drivers broken Gardner Foden, in their Marble floored workshops, around the same time!!!

Gosh the fun we had talking about France, and Bernard in particular, for we both loved the lorries, and the company! I have driven many Bernards, Pelpel cabs, Television cbs, and even a rough old Arnault, they never ever lost their pedigree,you can really understand the once common saying…“The driver of a Bernard…he is a man to be respected”! Boy they are some lorry…believe me.

Thanks for the memories

Cheerio for now.

I wouldn’t normally post non - brochure related images in this thread, but here’s a Borca Bernard as mentioned by Saviem.

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And here’s some brochures to keep the faith…

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