No I don’t
They are on the Scania’s.
Napoleonic era.
The last time Geoffrey Carry On Not so Fast drive a lorry it was powered by steam.
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He still does , I thought it was him driving HMS Sultan’s Sentinel on Saturday
Down Privett road gosport
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I thought I saw him at the Dorset steam fair near Dorchester pulling a load of logs on an A frame on his blinged up steam roller with Tartan frilly curtains and tassel’s.
Peek a boo curtains on a roller!
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So you’re obviously saying that no operators are still doing direct depot to depot trunking and actually making it a selling point for applicants in their job adverts ? .
The fact is hub systems are labour and warehousing operations intensive.With the lose lose of drivers being paid for loads of wasted downtime during the hub sort and less efficient in terms of tonne miles moved.
It’s no surprise that hub system operators would do whatever it takes to offset and minimise the resulting costs.
Minimum Wage rules allow them to not count such downtime towards minimum wage calculations by designating it as break.
Just as they can shed warehouse staff and replace it with the under utilised drivers even at a reduced wage rate to add insult to literal possible injury.
It’s the driver’s choice.Direct trunking or hub system crap.
I was actually driving 7.5t under the Callaghan Regime and class 2 and class 1 mostly under Thatcher and Major.If you must talk zb at least get it right.
Yes agreed we actually had a union agreement which exempted us from warehouse work up to around 1995.
Unfortunately the fact that we were being paid to sit around effectively on break, with the tacho also switched to break, for hours during a hub system sort , played a large part in the union agreeing to lift that exemption.
The fact that just because you might get paid breaks doesn’t make it the industry norm.
I didn’t get paid breaks and most of that was under Union agreed conditions.
Even when I started in those ‘militant’ 1970’s factories the 40 hours was made up of 9 hours total 8-5 5 days per week - 1 hour for lunch time.
They also deducted our two 15 minute tea breaks from our wages until we sold them to increase production.
Staff hours were 9-5.
Which matters how when breaks aren’t included for National Minimum Wage calculations regardless.Assuming that’s what an employer chooses to define, sitting around waiting for a hub system sort to finish, as.
Has it ever crossed your mind why no-one would employ you? I mean you haven’t had a job in this industry where the year starts with a 2.
Yet here we have a forum full of drivers doing the job day in day out telling you that you are wrong and still you feel the need to argue every single topic you get embroiled in to death, despite having ZERO experience of what you are talking about.
Maybe, just maybe if every once in a while you said “hey I got that one wrong” people might take the tripe you post a bit more seriously.
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If I’m wrong maybe you could explain the reasons for the topic and the OP’s whinge.
Choosing to work on hub system trunking is the definition of play stupid games win stupid prizes.
My advice is look for adverts stating direct depot to depot trunking preferably job and finish.That applies whether it’s 1985 or '95 or 2025.
Maybe you could explain why, after a disciplinary for refusal of warehouse work during hub transhipment operations, I was eventually promoted back to the direct depot to depot trunking that I was actually employed to do.
Employment was never my problem.Hub system trunking was.
It may appear naive, but define hub system. I’m assuming it means a depot in a major centre, from which local delivey and collection are made. Linehaul trucks connecting hubs.
So I play ‘stupid games’ by doing hub trunking do I? 11 hour shifts, no hardship. And I can assure you when I’m paid every Friday it certainly isn’t a ‘stupid prize’.
If I want advice on here I’ll ask some of the other forum members, i.e.. drivers.
Peace out 
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The OP’s “whinge” as you put it was to do with concerns over pay and falling below the minimum wage threshold. Its there above (post no. 1) in black and white. No mention was made of hub trunking, paid breaks, being asked to work as a warehouse labourer etc. Predictably it was you who introduced all your usual tedious BS into yet another topic.
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Says the man who could not gain it driving a lorry for nearly 30 years. 
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Top advice.
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I breezed through the posts to see something about using a broom to brush up the yard as manual labour and promptly gave up.
He drove a steam roller in the last century.
Pallet hubs dotted around the country.
In theory a small truck could collect a pallet at 17.30,let’s say in Scotland ,the small truck takes it to the hub.
It’s then put on the overnight trunk trailer to Birmingham, unloaded on to to trailer that takes it overnight to Cornwall to a haulage company in the pallet network,the smaller lorry then delivers the pallet by 08.00 am or 09.00 am depending if the customer has paid a premium price for an early morning delivery, if not, it gets there when it gets there to someone’s home or business.
Carryfast’s biggest problem is that he fails to see there are many aspects of being a lorry driver other than sitting behind the wheel for 10 hours a day actually driving. And no before you start Carryfast, I’m not referring to being sent into the warehouse to work or sweeping the yard as you seem to think we all do.
It goes a long way to explaining why every boss runs a mile from employing him.
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