Yes I am. Taken from a recent advert for drivers. You get to top it up with £4 a day meal allowance if you produce a receipt.
I can only assume that the other hours are when loading/unloading and vehicle check for example.
It’s actually the best most sustainable combination of all worlds.Its a type of mileage/hourly hybrid.
But which could still turn bad for the driver assuming minimum miles and maximum ‘other work’ like self tip/ load local multi drop type operations.
But assuming distance full load or trailer swap type work it’s a win win..
The truth is a truck and it’s driver aren’t earning if/when the wheels ain’t turning.
No amount of bluff and bluster by Maoster will change that fact.
It’s not bluff or bluster to point out that the NMW rules clearly state that break times are not included in the calculation.
Assuming a hub system operation it’s obvious that the guvnor could legitimately play the break card making it 9.5 hours pay and 3 hours break.
Which by, my experience, ( could ) actually also be a win for the driver if they don’t relish ‘other’ warehouse work during the hub transhipment operation.
I don’t understand the advantage of hub system trunking.
It takes at least two trucks and two drivers to move one trailer load from point A to point B.
Together with loads of downtime for the drivers and parked up trucks going nowhere.
No surprise the employers would then either have to get creative with the wage structure regarding unpaid 'break, or employ the driver on other warehouse duties at the hub, or shut down because the figures don’t add up.
Or …go back to direct trunking operations.Which can at least move two trailer loads between point A and point B in both directions, in which the drivers get paid for all the hours they do and often a few less hours for the same money, in a shift.
Those remaining types of trunking job are out there and those employers make it a clear selling point, for type of driver that knows ( hub system trunking is crap and best avoided ).Notice I’ve guessed the OP is talking about such an operation without him even saying.
Show me. Educate me where it says that “clearly “ as you say. If you can I’ll happily apologise.
As for the rest of your diatribe; nonsensical word soup as per usual
You’re saying that every driver can expect up to 15 hours pay for up to a 15 hour shift and any disagreement is a diatribe.Good luck with that.
In all my years at work I never, ever, ever got paid for breaks and still don’t and I don’t expect it.
While unfortunately in my case the union counted the hours spent at the hub, doing hub system trunking, as work time not break and made me a warehouse labourer for that time spent, for the privilege.
I get paid breaks 
. Every little helps 
you had more starts than a B Model Mack in your short brush with proper employment, you haven’t had a real job for over quarter of a century.
I work 4 on 4 off, 12 hour shifts on the M&S contract. We get paid breaks. If we go over 12 hours (rarely happens) we get paid 12 hours & whatever extra we worked, if we work under 12 hours (most days) we go home job and knock style and get paid 12 hours. Therefore as per usual you are talking absolute bullshine. 
I think this probably happened to Carryfast once in 1995 and he decided that this is the norm for everyone one of us in the industry in our jobs. Lets not forget the last time anyone would actually be stupid enough to employ him to drive a lorry Tony Blair had barely become PM. 
Personally i experienced mucking in and helping out, but having to do it to get paid i have never experienced it
It’s very hard to get to grips with the explanation from himself but another way could and i quote caution here
A container driver drives 2 hours to get to destination arrives and is 6 hours sitting in bed getting tipped drives back 2 hours
Day rate 200 quid
Rate for 4 hours worked 50 quid an hour
Not paid for 6 hours
Now that is robbery the driver should not be happy
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You won’t. Because you’re donkeys years behind.
Well I’m sat on a bay on break and being paid for it
And a bonus of some lovely sun shine
Which century are we referring to?
19th I think
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I’m thinking the 18 th century when horse and carts were on the road for freight transport.
Have you got a lorry with a step that folds out from the bottom grill that makes a great seat?
Blockquote
Roman times with slaves
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