mazzer:
It looks Rolf might be able to change his plea to that of insanity and walk away, after reading today that Fatty Veltz has said he molested her too, surely there could no more concrete proof that the man is insane and not in control of his faculties than to have a desire to interfere with her
I suppose at least it shows that he was an equal opportunities molester, and didn’t just target the young, slim and attractive. 
No person in there right mind would molest that fat cow Veltz 
just wishful thinking on her part 
Rolf Harris adds high treason to his list of crimes…
Cotswoldcrunch:
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Rolf Harris adds high treason to his list of crimes…
That might explain everything.He was telling her that he’d got at Di Spencer before Charles did. 
mazzer:
It looks Rolf might be able to change his plea to that of insanity and walk away, after reading today that Fatty Veltz has said he molested her too, surely there could no more concrete proof that the man is insane and not in control of his faculties than to have a desire to interfere with her
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newmercman:
mazzer:
It looks Rolf might be able to change his plea to that of insanity and walk away, after reading today that Fatty Veltz has said he molested her too, surely there could no more concrete proof that the man is insane and not in control of his faculties than to have a desire to interfere with her
She’s remembered it all wrong it was Benny Hill who did it.
youtube.com/watch?v=SESSGjAwCsY
Or was it the Monty Python lot.
i’ve managed to get hold of a exclusive photo of rolf in prison…
can you guess what it is yet?
Celine Dion has lodged a complaint too…
Dunno about you but I’ve O/D’d on ■■■ abuse & Israel/Gaza Strip? 
Whats the agenda & what bad news are they trying to hide?
Beyond reasonable doubt tho?
CLICKY
The difference with the school teacher is he is in a position of trust and care to his pupils.
kr79:
The difference with the school teacher is he is in a position of trust and care to his pupils.
Assuming that they are human they’ll be programmed just the same as anyone else.As the law stands assuming a teacher falls for a pupil and vice versa,as in the Clive Richards case,it’s just a case of leaving the job.Which seems a pointless law and one that didn’t exist at all in the 1970’s for example.Which then leaves the question of people seeming to think that the 18 year threshold is relevant when the age of consent in this country is/should be actually 16 and,unlike the states,that applies wether the bloke is 16 or 86.In the case of the so called ‘position of trust’ issue,as I’ve said,that just seems like a Trojan Horse and a hidden agenda to gradually introduce the US federal idea of a two tier age of consent based on the 18 year threshold.
While it seems obvious that many of the ‘issues’,concerning the recent cases,are all about the man’s age,at the time,now being seen as a ‘problem’ by the women involved.Whereas it wasn’t at the time.All because of establishment driven societal changes in which the obvious default setting is that there’s something wrong and supposedly sordid about age gap relationships.As proved by the fact that the actor involved actually allegedly got attacked in real life for this fictitious storyline.Whereas in the 1970’s it would have been considered nothing unusual or illegal either in real life or fiction. 
youtube.com/watch?v=-9nabhFbuos
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DaiDap:
Beyond reasonable doubt tho?
CLICKY
It’s obvious that in such borderline cases that it’s all going to depend on the outlooks and make up of the jury. 
The age of conset is 16 the girl jeremy forest was seeing was 15 so it was ilegal its a black and white law. At the end of the day he took a minor out of the country without her parents consent if he had done it at 16 it would have been different but you have to draw a line in the sand somewhere.
im 35 and realisticly have no intrest of the things 16 year ols are in to so what is the rekationship all about.
Rolf was charged for molesting his daughters friend who he would have known was underage. Even if your daughters 14 year old friend come on to you you would have to say no as its wrong.
however some of the people who had acusations thrown at them like jim davidson and dlt id say that it could well be the position caused women to be coming on to them and some may have been underage but done up looking much older and now coming out for a claim up.
I didn’t like the Rolf Harris Meal Deal in KFC today; The breasts were tiny.
kr79:
The age of conset is 16 the girl jeremy forest was seeing was 15 so it was ilegal its a black and white law. At the end of the day he took a minor out of the country without her parents consent if he had done it at 16 it would have been different but you have to draw a line in the sand somewhere.
im 35 and realisticly have no intrest of the things 16 year ols are in to so what is the rekationship all about.
As I’ve said I’ve got no issues about the Forrest case ending up in a conviction he crossed a line and rightly got arrested for it.But as I’ve also said having known a serving copper who knocked up a relative when she was 15 with no arrest,let alone conviction or penalty,the issues which I’ve got are those related to the ‘penalty’ imposed for that conviction.IE the question in that case is would the penalty have been the same ‘if’ Forrest had been someone of her own/close age and/or not a teacher.I’m saying that his penalty didn’t reflect the crime and,just like in many of the recent cases,was based on another agenda concerning ‘his’ age not hers.As for Forrest’s motives it’s difficult to understand what he was thinking.However,just like society did in the case of my relative’s husband,I’d call it a case of just stupid zb who,for whatever reason,didn’t wait for a matter of months to keep it legal.In addition to like many other blokes,being an immoral,adultering zb.But not pervert paedo.Which then leaves the question of the motives of the girl who claimed it was love but seemed more like a case of set up to wreck the bloke’s marriage and life.
kr79:
Rolf was charged for molesting his daughters friend who he would have known was underage. Even if your daughters 14 year old friend come on to you you would have to say no as its wrong.
however some of the people who had acusations thrown at them like jim davidson and dlt id say that it could well be the position caused women to be coming on to them and some may have been underage but done up looking much older and now coming out for a claim up.
Rolf actually claimed in his defence that no physical relationship took place with the girl until after she was 16 even 18.Just like in many other recent cases it seems like she was one of the typical type of the time who was happy to go for much older blokes but has changed her mind in line with changes in societal outlooks since then.Which then leaves the questions of proof beyond reasonable doubt raised previously.Bearing in mind all the other cases where similar types of accusations have resulted in different jury decisions to others.
They could only sentence him to the penalty that was in force at the time of the offence…so,if he had murdered would they have to hang him?
Try reading this
judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/ … arris1.pdf
This is what the jury, and the judge, made their decision on and throws a bit more light on whether it was the right one or not.
Pat