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So a Natilnal ballot that will fail is unacceptable because the originator doesn’t like it so we will become anarchistic and act all hard with bully groups. Glad I drove tippers and delivered to power stations. Do you think it makes you look tough with all keyboard hardness. Quite sad lifes about getting on not trying be billy big spheroids. Get a life and enjoy it

P S Thanks m a n rules.

What let the NUM/Yorkshire Miners down was behaving as if they were above other workers.

They didn’t win any friends amongst drivers delivering to the Pits.
When I was first an OD I often used to run gypsum in sacks from Kent up to the pits, early morning start handball load a 40 footer, rope, sheet & drive up there, arriving late afternoon. Dusty, Dry & Thirsty Work!!

Any chance of some help lads?? - “Sorry Brother union rules we can’t help you”
Any chance of a wash or Shower?? “Sorry Brother, No union rules”
Can I use your canteen ■■ “Sorry Brother you can’t: union rules”

So I and many others saw the miners in the same vein as the Dockers, so when Thatcher decided to front it out with the Millionaire Scargill it was no surprise that drivers queued up for the convoys to haul coal from the ports.

Neither the miners or the dockers learn’t the wisdom of the old saying “look after others when you are up, as you may need their help when you are on your way down”

the old timer:
So a Natilnal ballot that will fail is unacceptable because the originator doesn’t like it so we will become anarchistic and act all hard with bully groups. Glad I drove tippers and delivered to power stations. Do you think it makes you look tough with all keyboard hardness. Quite sad lifes about getting on not trying be billy big spheroids. Get a life and enjoy it

Not really mate, think you are seeing it wrong. There was nothing hard or bullying about it. It was a necessary thing to do as it wasnt just our jobs at risk it was about te trades union movement that was at risk too. The NUM was split by the Nottinghamshire miners and after the strikes were over formed the UDM. No NUM member would work with a UDM member. You taking the Polish coal through the picket lines caused more problems than you thought. For what? and at what price did you get? You just helped the government and the NCB you sniveling little rat.

whisperingsmith:
What let the NUM/Yorkshire Miners down was behaving as if they were above other workers.

They didn’t win any friends amongst drivers delivering to the Pits.
When I was first an OD I often used to run gypsum in sacks from Kent up to the pits, early morning start handball load a 40 footer, rope, sheet & drive up there, arriving late afternoon. Dusty, Dry & Thirsty Work!!

Any chance of some help lads?? - “Sorry Brother union rules we can’t help you”
Any chance of a wash or Shower?? “Sorry Brother, No union rules”
Can I use your canteen ■■ “Sorry Brother you can’t: union rules”

So I and many others saw the miners in the same vein as the Dockers, so when Thatcher decided to front it out with the Millionaire Scargill it was no surprise that drivers queued up for the convoys to haul coal from the ports.

Neither the miners or the dockers learn’t the wisdom of the old saying “look after others when you are up, as you may need their help when you are on your way down”

Unfortunately there is a lot of truth in what you have written. As yorkshire miners, we did not see ourselves as above other workers. The Yorkshire NUM members were in the majority of ■■■■■■■■ unionists. I agree things could have been done differently but that is down to hindsight. It was the Yorkshire miners that was oing to take the biggest hit with pit closures. Now mining communities whether Welsh or Derby were very close knit communities with very little else to do other than mining. I was an eighth generation miner.
your father worked down the pit and his son followed. There was nothing else for us. The strikes were originaly led by the Yorkshire miners but we also knew the other mines were also to close.And they did, they completely destroyed all british mining for cheaper imported coal. Coal fields what made money were being closed down and this was obvious that the rest would soon follow. Iam McMillan did the same with the steel industry and was Thatchers hatchet man. Yes some were very militant but with good intentions.