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Carryfast:
Firstly the lunar rover was actually driven on the moon by astronauts who went on the later Apollo missions which showed that they were actually confident enough in the thing’s engineering to go there more than once. :wink:

the Oxford Dictionary:
rover1 (rover)

Pronunciation: /ˈrəʊvə/

(…)

a vehicle for driving over rough terrain, especially one driven by remote control over extraterrestrial terrain: a lunar rover

Guess Lunochod fits that description better than american moon car :wink:

I am really happy to point out all your mistakes when you speak about Eastern Europe, Poland, Russia and other things you have absolutely no idea about, but I feel strange when I have to teach you your native language and I would feel better if the others would take over from me on that field.

As for confidence: my point is that Russian technology was so advanced then, that the Russian rover did not needed anyone to go there and drive it :slight_smile: And I am serious about this, a Lunochod was underestimated, as people’s landing on Moon was more spectacular thing, but it wasn’t in any way less technically advanced, and when it comes to telemetry and electronic, it was even more…

And driving Lunochod was harder than driving American rover, due to the reaction time and delayed view, as the signal to and from the moon needed few seconds to get there :wink: Nothing like that was done before.

As for Apollo 1 that’s what test pilots do for a living and sometimes that’s the only way to find design flaws and that’s one of the reasons that the Americans got there.

Ah. So Apollo 1 bursts in flames = “the only way to find design flaws in brilliant american construction”
But when Tupolev Tu-144 crashes = “prove that Russians are stupid and everything that they make is crap”.

Classical carryfast style :wink:

Will check the videos later, I am in the university library just now (Pointless fact for today: in a “Soviet, Russian, Central and Eastern European Studies” dept there is a small shelf in the corner with ocultist literature, I wonder what carrtyfast will make out of this :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:)

Carryfast:
I’m surprised that Orys hasn’t tried to make the case that the Lunar Rover was actually a joint effort between Kamaz and Tatra. :open_mouth: :smiling_imp: :laughing:

We have saying in Poland “everyone measures with his own measure” - I am not sure if I translated it right, but I think the sense is carried out. And I think that it should be sufficient for the comment to that bit :wink:

But if it was really all a conspiracy a Saturn 5 would have been the most expensive conspiracy in history when something smaller and cheaper probably would have done just as good a job of convincing the public at large.:open_mouth: :bulb: :wink:

I also leave that one alone. It’s carryfast here who specialised in conspiracy theories. I am here only to provide facts and information when someone lacks knowledge about former Eastern Bloc issues.

Harry Monk:
It was all made up. Here’s some genuine Apollo footage, and you can quite clearly see that this fallen astronaut is being pulled upright by a wire. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymlwb76ZeiI

■■■■, now you got me confused. Who’s videos I should trust - yours, claming that it was all a hoax, or Carryfasts, claiming that it was the greatest achievement ever, possible only thanks to British contribution? :slight_smile:

billybigrig:

kr79:
I loved button moon when I was a kid.

I thought the first ones their were the Clangers :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Before my time mate. I was a big fan of mr spoon though.

Anyway have you bought a motor yet Harry

What’s next the polish football hooligans last night were Brits in disguise to give the poles a bad name. :smiley:

kr79:
What’s next the polish football hooligans last night were Brits in disguise to give the poles a bad name. :smiley:

No? Why? I am not one of these trucknet members who uses other nationalities to blame them for everything that it’s wrong in his country. These guys was just the idiot minority present in every nation, most of Poles are ashamed of them:
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:sunglasses:

orys:

kr79:
What’s next the polish football hooligans last night were Brits in disguise to give the poles a bad name. :smiley:

No? Why? I am not one of these trucknet members who uses other nationalities to blame them for everything that it’s wrong in his country. These guys was just the idiot minority present in every nation, most of Poles are ashamed of them:
and have completely different attitude towards Russians:
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:sunglasses:

Blimey Orys according to your previous posts that isn’t what the Poles said about the Russkies in 1945.So what Churchill did at Yalta was right after all. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

More faked Apollo footage here, again using wires. As you can see, the astronaut on the left can’t even get down on his knees when he wants to.

He may weigh only a sixth of his weight on Earth, but that still means the equivalent weight of a bag of cement, and I’ve never seen a bag of cement float above the surface of the ground. At 0:26 you see him being pulled upright again without any muscular effort on his part.

Harry Monk:
More faked Apollo footage here, again using wires. As you can see, the astronaut on the left can’t even get down on his knees when he wants to.

He may weigh only a sixth of his weight on Earth, but that still means the equivalent weight of a bag of cement, and I’ve never seen a bag of cement float above the surface of the ground. At 0:26 you see him being pulled upright again without any muscular effort on his part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mwam_dmym4&feature=relmfu

youtube.com/watch?v=hjEItn1s … re=related

‘If’ there are any real questions as to wether it was a hoax then it’s mainly this one that I don’t think has been answered fully. And maybe where exactly did they put the lunar rover as the landing vehicle didn’t seem to have a roof rack or a car trailer coupled to it. :question: . :wink:

ocii.com/~dpwozney/apollo5.htm

iaasm.org/documents/Cosmic_Radiation.pdf

But none of that would make a Kamaz (or a euro wagon) a better buy than an imported Ozzy Kenworth IMHO. :smiley:

Carryfast:
But none of that would make a Kamaz (or a euro wagon) a better buy than an imported Ozzy Kenworth IMHO. :smiley:

Depends what you need it for.

As neither would meet European type approval without modification and Harry as based near the London lez do needs a euro4 or above or a 5k exhaust it’s all irrelevant.

Harry Monk:
It was all made up. Here’s some genuine Apollo footage, and you can quite clearly see that this fallen astronaut is being pulled upright by a wire. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymlwb76ZeiI

I’m with Harry, heres evidence that the moon landings were actually shot at a film studio in Liverpool :stuck_out_tongue:

kr79:
As neither would meet European type approval without modification and Harry as based near the London lez do needs a euro4 or above or a 5k exhaust it’s all irrelevant.

direct.gov.uk/en/motoring/bu … /dg_177879

Maybe it all gets a bit easier after October and I’d probably prefer to pay the cost of the exhaust system by taking it off the price offered for the truck in that case. :wink:

No doubt next year our roads will be full of kenworths peterblts and macks then.

kr79:
No doubt next year our roads will be full of kenworths peterblts and macks then.

Admittedly extremely unlikely.But that doesn’t mean that there isn’t a case that the maintenance and depreciation figures might add up better running one of those than a euro wagon in the long term over a high mileage. :bulb:

kr79:
As neither would meet European type approval without modification and Harry as based near the London lez do needs a euro4 or above or a 5k exhaust it’s all irrelevant.

That’s good then. I can take 2011+ Kamaz into London then, as it complies with euro4.

kr79:
What’s next the polish football hooligans last night were Brits in disguise to give the poles a bad name. :smiley:

I’ve heard there getting deported back here.

Sent from my iPad.

Carryfast:

kr79:
No doubt next year our roads will be full of kenworths peterblts and macks then.

Admittedly extremely unlikely.But that doesn’t mean that there isn’t a case that the maintenance and depreciation figures might add up better running one of those than a euro wagon in the long term over a high mileage. :bulb:

I’d imagine in lots of ways they are fairly complex now they have the EPA 10 em missions standards to meet.

spectron:

kr79:
What’s next the polish football hooligans last night were Brits in disguise to give the poles a bad name. :smiley:

I’ve heard there getting deported back here.

Sent from my iPad.

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Carryfast:

kr79:
No doubt next year our roads will be full of kenworths peterblts and macks then.

Admittedly extremely unlikely.But that doesn’t mean that there isn’t a case that the maintenance and depreciation figures might add up better running one of those than a euro wagon in the long term over a high mileage. :bulb:

Were we gonna get two football pitches EVERY time we need to turn one of those dinosaurs around :question: :exclamation: :exclamation: :grimacing: