Can anyone help? Do red light traffic cameras capture the drivers face, I’ve received a ticket but I wasn’t driving, and I have no idea who was
It would depend if it’s a forward facing camera if it is likely to capture the driver driving. Having said that you as the person who owns the vehicle should know who was driving the vehicle. If you cannot provide the driver you will get done anyway so either figure it out or take the fine and points and be done with it
Cheers for the response, it was either one of 2 my sons, one has a drivers license the other doesn’t, I’d rather take the points than one of them facing prosecution, but I’m also worried that they can view evidence it wasn’t me, meaning I’ve given false information, meaning I could get into even deeper problems
I received a letter saying my car was in a bus lane in London on a certain date. The letter had the photo on it. It was a different registration to mine and not even the same model of car or colour. Replied explaining and it was rescinded.
I didn’t get any photo evidence of it, just a notice to identify the driver
Then let whichever one it was learn their lesson the hard way. It’s only 3 points and a fine.
Taking the conviction for them is worse so just find out which one it was and name them as the driver.
It’s not a nice situation but hiding them from learning a lesson will do more harm then make them face up to it.
Without knowing for sure if there is photo evidence then your opening yourself up to a world of trouble for something that it relatively minor in the grand scheme of things.
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Not to mention you say one of your sons, and one doesn’t have a licence so that is even worse if it was him driving I assume without your permission as you would also be guilty of letting him drive without a licence. But again I’m sure you are aware of that.
If he was the driver then that opens up a much worse scenario for you and him assuming you gave him permission to drive the car.
Most red light cameras I believe are rear facing but I wouldn’t like to bet all are in this day and age
Also if a first offence if the son with licence and no courses or points in the last 3 years could potentially be offered a driver education course possibly as well.
Google says red light cameras are rear facing so they can capture the ATS lights but that’s Google.
If you said you were driving, and they had facial photo evidence, then without knowing your personally, how would they know the face in their picture isn’t you?
This happened to me about 10 years ago. I genuinely didn’t know if it was my wife or I that was driving (it takes so long to come through and we both use the car). I told them that and they took no further action . I don’t see why we should do their job for them ! If they want to find the the driver then they should employ police to stop you at the scene, not rely on cameras.
If you get it wrong it might end up being ‘Conspiracy to pervert the course of justice’
Good point.
As seen in Chris Huhne and Vicky Pryce case when she attempted to “take his points” for a speeding offence. Both jailed for 8 months.
I find that hard to believe somehow.
Fail to Provide Driver Information
Driver Identity Section 172 (S172) of the Road Traffic Act 1988.
Since it’s a covered by the 1988 road traffic act it must have been a lot longer than 10 years or so ago or it’s likely it never happend the way you suggest.
Mind I’m starting to doubt the op as they had also posted on another red light thread claiming the car was stolen now as well.
Yeah I’m just trying my best to get a clear answer to my question, I was away on Holliday during the offence, I didn’t give either of my sons permission to drive my car, and unfortunately neither of them are willing to fess up.
Technically the car was stolen, but I don’t want to go down that route, as it will get even worse for one of them, but if the camera does take a pic of the drivers face, at least then I’ll know which one is being very disappointing with their honesty, and he can face the consequences
More twists and turns than a mills and boon book.
Bottom line then if you genuinely were away and the car was at home, you cannot know who took the car. Your only defence is that but you’d likely have to go to court and state all that under oath.
But you could still be prosecuted. I suggest if this actually is real you go and see a proper solicitor and get it sorted instead of relying on truck drivers theories.
My friend is a truck driver and recommended I try here, but I’m starting to think with your hostility and unwarranted suspicion, it was a mistake, thank you for your response, but I don’t understand why you have a problem with me simply trying to find an answer to my question, if you have a problem with it, simply don’t respond
Oh grow up where have I been hostile etc?
Go and see a solicitor who is the only person who can help you sort this mess out if it is genuine. Not a bunch of truckers.
Either
- You tell the truth to the police that you were away, and the car was used without your permission.
Or
Y2. ou lie and take the red-light conviction yourself.
Option 1_ if the police do find out who did it, it is TWOCing, no insurance, etc.
Option 2_ either you get points, a fine and insurance increase,
or possibly prison if you’re caught for perverting the course of justice.
I agree you’re not being hostile. You’re telling the OP what he doesn’t want to hear.
Thank you for this response, either way it looks like it can get messy