Personally using a front brake like this shows far more skill than doing a silly emergency stop on a piddly 125 on a test
Dr Damon:
Personally I think it was a tad ridiculous to use “stand on the front brake” when referring to a motorbike but hey ho.
Depends on your riding style…youtube.com/watch?v=QeKFc3BNtU4
AndrewG:
Dr Damon:
Personally I think it was a tad ridiculous to use “stand on the front brake” when referring to a motorbike but hey ho.Depends on your riding style…youtube.com/watch?v=QeKFc3BNtU4
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The sad proof of what trying to deal with a dumbed down control freak world eventually does to the human brain. 
Better days. 
youtube.com/watch?v=8c2mdyQlIbw
Who needs brakes. 
The biker was a car length away from the line when they went green. But the tipper could have started from the line on green, but the light change was so quick, and he was so slow.
Dr Damon:
eagerbeaver:
So why don’t you ’ stand on ’ or ’ apply ’ a front brake hard, with a trailing rear brake supplementing it in an emergency stop situation?Tell us all the correct prognosis Doctor…
Stand on the brakes I would suspect comes from heavy braking using your right foot (mostly) but on a motorcycle the foot is not used for the front brake hence probably why I have never ever heard that expression used when referring to bikes.
The Gold Wing (and other big touring bikes I believe) has a set up where the foot pedal operates the rear brake, and one of the front brakes. The hand brake lever, operates only on the front brake.
And I have only ever know the phrase ‘hanging (full) on the brakes’ used when referring to (heavy) braking on a bike.
the nodding donkey:
Dr Damon:
eagerbeaver:
So why don’t you ’ stand on ’ or ’ apply ’ a front brake hard, with a trailing rear brake supplementing it in an emergency stop situation?Tell us all the correct prognosis Doctor…
Stand on the brakes I would suspect comes from heavy braking using your right foot (mostly) but on a motorcycle the foot is not used for the front brake hence probably why I have never ever heard that expression used when referring to bikes.
The Gold Wing (and other big touring bikes I believe) has a set up where the foot pedal operates the rear brake, and one of the front brakes. The hand brake lever, operates only on the front brake.
And I have only ever know the phrase ‘hanging (full) on the brakes’ used when referring to (heavy) braking on a bike.
Sometimes I refer to a ■■■■■■ as a ’ Bearded clam '. Just thought I would share that with the group 
eagerbeaver:
Sometimes I refer to a ■■■■■■ as a ’ Bearded clam '. Just thought I would share that with the group
You been listening to the ■■■■■■■■■ song ■■?
Ha you seem to know more about bike brakes than beev.
Not sure about Gold Wings but Honda introduced the dual braking system on the VFR’s in the 90’s.
The way it worked was once you applied the front brake lever 80% of power went to the front brake and the rest to the rear.
One of the reasons for bringing out this system was to stop riders applying too much rear brake causing a skid and sometimes a spill.
A perfect system for some but not for all.
Just for a laugh I would like to see beev standing on the front brake lever while sat on his bike. 
Dr Damon:
Just for a laugh I would like to see beev standing on the front brake lever while sat on his bike.
Physically impossible …
raymundo:
Dr Damon:
Just for a laugh I would like to see beev standing on the front brake lever while sat on his bike.Physically impossible …
His words not mine!
raymundo:
Dr Damon:
Just for a laugh I would like to see beev standing on the front brake lever while sat on his bike.Physically impossible …
It’s ok Ray, leave him to it 
I was going to ask him what he got his doctorate in, but it’s obviously associated with the science of bellendology
eagerbeaver:
raymundo:
Dr Damon:
Just for a laugh I would like to see beev standing on the front brake lever while sat on his bike.Physically impossible …
It’s ok Ray, leave him to it
Like that is it beev. Just because you have been found out no need to go all huffy.
Come on tell me more about your FXR.
I’M all ears!
No, you are all ■■■■. But it is amusing to watch you flapping around in the deep end
Please continue whilst I cut my toenails…
eagerbeaver:
:lol: No, you are all ■■■■. But it is amusing to watch you flapping around in the deep endPlease continue whilst I cut my toenails…
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Now why would I be flapping?
I am the one that knows what he is talking about.
You obviously don’t.
Is this you trying to get your foot on the front brake lever?
You’ve no chance beev.
I think the brakes Dr D is referring to is Honda’s linked braking system where the front brake lever operates five of the six front brake pistons and the back brake operates the middle piston on the left caliper on the front and of course the rear wheel brakes. A lot of people don’t like the system as they say it takes away some level of control, but on tourers like mine I think it’s a good system that works well, it’s also got ABS. It’s a Honda NT 700 Deauville (dullsville) which to the uninitiated is a low powered heavy tourer.
As for the kid on the bike, I didn’t see the video but he did seem to avoid the accident so he couldn’t have been going that fast. Also he was overtaking through a junction which is a big no no. As for using the hatching, my take on that would be overtaking on a bike is necessary so the hatching is fair game.
Carryfast thanks for the vids I enjoyed watching them brings back memories of days long ago riding in a gang with a fair bit of hooning. Not to that extent though.
Getting back to braking on a big powerful bike the back brake is redundant. When braking heavy with my wife spread eagled on my back uttering oaths into my left ear (it’s the one with the hearing aid) the back tyre is hardly touching the ground
This was on a previous bike not the one I own now.
knight2:
Carryfast thanks for the vids I enjoyed watching them brings back memories of days long ago riding in a gang with a fair bit of hooning. Not to that extent though.
In my case not bikes only cars preferably running to European GT race meetings.Generally split between those of us with less cash so only around 150 ish mph v the 180 mph + lot with more to spend so obviously ( thankfully ) no wheelies or one wheel braking let alone at those type of speeds.
While the Mach 3 video provided a great view of that speed regime possible on the continental motorways in the day.But I’ve got no time for the type of retarded zb shown in the vid posted by Andrew G which is why I posted those good old school examples.
Anyway. Braking is for ■■■■■■■…
eagerbeaver:
Dr Damon:
eagerbeaver:
Dr Damon:
Standing on the front brake with a touch of rear.g
REALLY.Yep, really. Have you ever tried emergency braking a heavy, fast motorcycle with too much right foot pedal? I wouldn’t recommend it
Yes I have fella and harder than you will ever know!
The bit that confuses me is STANDING ON THE FRONT BRAKE■■?
’ Standing on the brakes ’ is a term used for heavy braking with ALL vehicles, and the fact that you are questioning brake usage on a motorcycle simply proves that you haven’t got a clue about bikes. Most fast Yammy’s of that period had power valves, my TZR 125 had a manual exhaust valve which you could rotate 180 degree’s. This would give you a great top end but you lost all the low down torque. The electronic power valve on bigger engine models would obviously move itself giving you the benefits of both worlds.
I don’t give you a hard time on here chap, it’s nicer that way. Plus…I am in a good mood. Let’s play nice eh
I haven’t seen the video and I think Dr Damon is ‘splitting hairs’. All I know is A) I give tippers a wide berth whatever I’m in or on. It’s safer that way. And B), all this talk of TZR 125’s and FZR1000 Exup’s is making me misty-eyed