Proceed...If safe to do so

blue estate:

mattecube:

eurotrans:

Born Idle:
In what way is the bike not following the Highway code?

Riding on the hatched markings is not recommended nor is not slowing down when approaching a red light . Having said that running an amber light because you don’t want to stop your loaded 8 legged ain’t exactly good driving is it?

Agreed,the motorcyclist is not helping himself, the op suggests that it is totally his fault when the red lorry driver is at greater fault.

6 of 1 half dozen of the other springs to mind

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Yup.

blue estate:

Born Idle:
In what way is the bike not following the Highway code?

Riding on hatched lines for starters

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Really I think you will find if the hatched area is surrounded by broken lines you can enter if safe.
If solid lines only emergencies.

Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.

If the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so.
Highway Code rule 130.
Overtaking is not necessary is it?
It appears the truck has crossed on amber or red. If crossed on red there`s no excuse. If the lights are badly phased then he could well have crossed on amber, but had insufficient time to clear the junction?
Truck driver ? Dunno what responsibility he has. Could be innocent or a dangerous idiot?
Motorcyclist ? Not riding defensively, and prob not looking out for himself too well. Needs to learn from this near miss.

The-Snowman:
While green might indicate go, red doesnt mean batter up to it at full pelt and accelerate through a split second after it goes red/amber then green.
Biker comes across as someone who will come a cropper some day in the near future based on the driving style in that video. Hes not exactly blameless

^^^ On the money. Our friend on his chicken chaser needs to get a grip sharpish.

When he get’s onto something a bit bigger, he will end up in big trouble :neutral_face: I still remember leathering my FXR1000 a number of years back down the A50 which is a road I know well. On this particular occasion my enthusiasm had outweighed my ability and I braked down to a roundabout carrying too much speed and was forced to make a decision between laying it down or getting her back vertical and standing on the front brake with a touch of rear.

I chose to gamble and kept her straight hoping and praying nothing was going to enter the roundabout from my right. When I stopped I had nudged my front tyre gently up against the kerb on the centre of the roundabout and there was a car bumper about 4 feet from my right knee. The car drivers look simply said " Good job I was on my game Son ".

Motorbikes are great…so long as you maintain the discipline required. Let’s hope the lad above does not end up like the rider in that awful helmet-cam footage that was shown on here not too long ago. (From memory it was a lad who had just finished work and his family had requested the fatal footage be published with the hope it may save someone else’s family from going through the same) :frowning:

Franglais any reason for omitting the last part of the sentence highlighted?

Beev be honest now the FXR is 150cc
Think you will find the FZR is the 1000.

Standing on the front brake with a touch of rear.
REALLY.

Dr Damon:
Franglais any reason for omitting the last part of the sentence highlighted?

I gave the quote from the Highway Code and the rule number so anyone can check it out.
I was making the point that the overtaking was not necessary. Did the motorcyclist check it was safe to enter the hatched area, maybe irrelevant IF you accept that the overtake was unnecessary?
No ulterior motive involved.

Dr Damon:
Beev be honest now the FXR is 150cc
Think you will find the FZR is the 1000.

Oops. Typo, was indeed a FZR (92 J reg upside down forks model in black. FZR1000 RU, loved it :sunglasses: )

Dr Damon:
Standing on the front brake with a touch of rear.
REALLY.

Yep, really. Have you ever tried emergency braking a heavy, fast motorcycle with too much right foot pedal? I wouldn’t recommend it :wink:

eagerbeaver:

Dr Damon:
Beev be honest now the FXR is 150ccy
Think you will find the FZR is the 1000.

Oops. Typo, was indeed a FZR (92 J reg upside down forks model in black. FZR1000 RU, loved it :sunglasses: )

Oh so you are allowed typos but you picked me up for the same thing the other day…lol.

You mean an Ex up?

eagerbeaver:

Dr Damon:
Standing on the front brake with a touch of rear.g
REALLY.

Yep, really. Have you ever tried emergency braking a heavy, fast motorcycle with too much right foot pedal? I wouldn’t recommend it :wink:

Yes I have fella and harder than you will ever know!

The bit that confuses me is STANDING ON THE FRONT BRAKE■■?

Dr Damon:

eagerbeaver:

Dr Damon:
Standing on the front brake with a touch of rear.g
REALLY.

Yep, really. Have you ever tried emergency braking a heavy, fast motorcycle with too much right foot pedal? I wouldn’t recommend it :wink:

Yes I have fella and harder than you will ever know!

The bit that confuses me is STANDING ON THE FRONT BRAKE■■?

’ Standing on the brakes ’ is a term used for heavy braking with ALL vehicles, and the fact that you are questioning brake usage on a motorcycle simply proves that you haven’t got a clue about bikes. Most fast Yammy’s of that period had power valves, my TZR 125 had a manual exhaust valve which you could rotate 180 degree’s. This would give you a great top end but you lost all the low down torque. The electronic power valve on bigger engine models would obviously move itself giving you the benefits of both worlds.

I don’t give you a hard time on here chap, it’s nicer that way. Plus…I am in a good mood. Let’s play nice eh :bulb:

eagerbeaver:

The-Snowman:
While green might indicate go, red doesnt mean batter up to it at full pelt and accelerate through a split second after it goes red/amber then green.
Biker comes across as someone who will come a cropper some day in the near future based on the driving style in that video. Hes not exactly blameless

^^^ On the money. Our friend on his chicken chaser needs to get a grip sharpish.

When he get’s onto something a bit bigger, he will end up in big trouble :neutral_face: I still remember leathering my FXR1000 a number of years back down the A50 which is a road I know well. On this particular occasion my enthusiasm had outweighed my ability and I braked down to a roundabout carrying too much speed and was forced to make a decision between laying it down or getting her back vertical and standing on the front brake with a touch of rear.

I chose to gamble and kept her straight hoping and praying nothing was going to enter the roundabout from my right. When I stopped I had nudged my front tyre gently up against the kerb on the centre of the roundabout and there was a car bumper about 4 feet from my right knee. The car drivers look simply said " Good job I was on my game Son ".

Motorbikes are great…so long as you maintain the discipline required. Let’s hope the lad above does not end up like the rider in that awful helmet-cam footage that was shown on here not too long ago. (From memory it was a lad who had just finished work and his family had requested the fatal footage be published with the hope it may save someone else’s family from going through the same) :frowning:

I know that feeling well brother rodent… :blush:. My first weekend riding in Wales, having just arrived from the flat and straight roads in the Netherlands, ended with me, and my bike (CB550 F), running spectacularly out of ability in the middle of a viciously tightening bend. Luckily some mates were following us in a van, so the evidence was quickly loaded up. My bike was furnished with ‘new’ front forks, from a Honda off-roader, which had the added bonus of raising the headstock by about 4inches, turning it into a poorly handling chopper, 70’s stylee… :grimacing:

Strangely I witnessed something similar last week in Chesterfield while waiting at a red light on the A61/617 island. ‘Our’ light turned green, but I could see that the adjoining traffic from the town on my nearside still (but only for a split second or so) had a green light as well! Obviously the phasing was slightly out so I held back, but a biker shot past me and was almost cleaned up by a truck. He assumed that a green light meant road clear and didn’t check, I went around the same junction today and all was back to normal. :confused:

Pete.

eagerbeaver:

Dr Damon:

eagerbeaver:

Dr Damon:
Standing on the front brake with a touch of rear.g
REALLY.

Yep, really. Have you ever tried emergency braking a heavy, fast motorcycle with too much right foot pedal? I wouldn’t recommend it :wink:

Yes I have fella and harder than you will ever know!

The bit that confuses me is STANDING ON THE FRONT BRAKE■■?

’ Standing on the brakes ’ is a term used for heavy braking with ALL vehicles, and the fact that you are questioning brake usage on a motorcycle simply proves that you haven’t got a clue about bikes. Most fast Yammy’s of that period had power valves, my TZR 125 had a manual exhaust valve which you could rotate 180 degree’s. This would give you a great top end but you lost all the low down torque. The electronic power valve on bigger engine models would obviously move itself giving you the benefits of both worlds.

I don’t give you a hard time on here chap, it’s nicer that way. Plus…I am in a good mood. Let’s play nice eh :bulb:

Listen Beev I have nothing against you. It is quite refreshing to get an answer that sort of makes sense after some of the pathetic replies I have had recently.
But don’t say I have not got a clue about bikes because I certainly do. I will not go into detail as nobody seems to believe a word I say on here but in all honesty of course I have heard “standing on the brakes” and yes it is used on all vehicles as you say.
Never ever ever have I heard it said about a motorcycle and I imagine it is because you do not stand on a bike front brake (ever)

So why don’t you ’ stand on ’ or ’ apply ’ a front brake hard, with a trailing rear brake supplementing it in an emergency stop situation?

Tell us all the correct prognosis Doctor…

eagerbeaver:
So why don’t you ’ stand on ’ or ’ apply ’ a front brake hard, with a trailing rear brake supplementing it in an emergency stop situation?

Tell us all the correct prognosis Doctor…

Stand on the brakes I would suspect comes from heavy braking using your right foot (mostly) but on a motorcycle the foot is not used for the front brake hence probably why I have never ever heard that expression used when referring to bikes.

Dr Damon:

eagerbeaver:
So why don’t you ’ stand on ’ or ’ apply ’ a front brake hard, with a trailing rear brake supplementing it in an emergency stop situation?

Tell us all the correct prognosis Doctor…

Stand on the brakes I would suspect comes from heavy braking using your right foot (mostly) but on a motorcycle the foot is not used for the front brake hence probably why I have never ever heard that expression used when referring to bikes.

That wasn’t the question though, was it?

I asked what YOU would do in an emergency brake situation on a motorcycle? If you don’t know, it’s better to simply say so, it’s no big deal. However if you opt to give it large, you will simply end up looking a tad ridiculous :neutral_face:

eagerbeaver:

Dr Damon:

eagerbeaver:
So why don’t you ’ stand on ’ or ’ apply ’ a front brake hard, with a trailing rear brake supplementing it in an emergency stop situation?

Tell us all the correct prognosis Doctor…

Stand on the brakes I would suspect comes from heavy braking using your right foot (mostly) but on a motorcycle the foot is not used for the front brake hence probably why I have never ever heard that expression used when referring to bikes.

That wasn’t the question though, was it?

I asked what YOU would do in an emergency brake situation on a motorcycle? If you don’t know, it’s better to simply say so, it’s no big deal. However if you opt to give it large, you will simply end up looking a tad ridiculous :neutral_face:

Of course I know although I passed my test on a 250 years ago and things have changed a little since then.
Personally I think it was a tad ridiculous to use “stand on the front brake” when referring to a motorbike but hey ho.